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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Konyap]
    #14100179 - 03/10/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

seriously one guy i hung out with thought the color of my skin was plaid:lolsy:

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Konyap]
    #14100219 - 03/10/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am sorry for your loss. However, I think that while on any drug potentially dangerous situations should be avoided. The guy knew he was doing some sort of drug and should have been more cautious. Unfortunately when precautions aren't taken, sometimes this is what ends up happening. Seeing the good in everyone and being naive are two different things. In this situation, it seems as though he was naive. If his ex cheated on him and caused him trouble and sadness, he shouldn't trusted her with unknown substances. I do realize that it's easy for me to say when I am not in this situation (thank god), but that's just my two cents.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: frostz]
    #14101561 - 03/10/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Please let us know what the toxicology report says.



On another note, More Americans, at least of the younger generation, have tried Salvia, probably more than LSD or maybe even mushrooms.  I don't think this is at all common scenario with salvia, though there is always some percentage of risk.

Sorry for your loss

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: demon66]
    #14101617 - 03/10/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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On another note, More Americans, at least of the younger generation, have tried Salvia, probably more than LSD or maybe even mushrooms.  I don't think this is at all common scenario with salvia, though there is always some percentage of risk.





I never thought about this but it's definitely true.

I've never used salvia and the reports I hear make it sound like something between datura and DMT.  Doesn't feel like it's right for me.  I've heard way more dark than light reports.

I wonder what this means about people having used psychedelics and what their impressions of "psychedelics" will be.

Salvia is a really interesting one.  Apparently "stronger" in effect than LSD or mushrooms (insofar as there is complete reality disassociation) yet with a very short duration. 

Still, nothing that I hear about it is EVER about sunshine and rainbows.  I know that there exists light and dark; I've seen darkness, I don't need to go wandering in to any foreboding caverns in order to try to appraise the Universe.  Salvia feels like a big dark cavern.

Mescaline and DMT with very moderate use of LSD and Shrooms all backed up by the ever-present ganj will suffice for me.  Thanks.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Humility]
    #14101865 - 03/11/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

meh its a enviromental synasthesia
its probably the opposite of dmt

in manufactured doses

in even higher concentrate(and perhaps some will power)
its like dreaming while standing up
really bugged out
probably, maybe you might roll to the other side of the room :teethclench:

in my opinion better then other drugs because it shows you the glitch in reality and then thats it their is no drunking rainbow barf its jus pure and unsettling for those brief moments of eternity:smirk:

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: missjules]
    #14103247 - 03/11/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry for your loss.
In regards to negative things being said about him, it's the internet. The place to speak your mind no matter how opinionated you are.
Don't let them bother you. They didn't know him.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Darklight203]
    #14119254 - 03/14/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Family Questions If Salvia Is To Blame For Son's Fatal Jump

http://www.wpix.com/wpix-salvia-fatal-jump,0,7551390.story

ROOSEVELT ISLAND (WPIX) Ryan Santanna leapt to his death from his family's 15th floor apartment balcony on Roosevelt Island Sunday. Early indications are that the 21-year-old was driven to jump after using the hallucinogenic herbal drug salvia although his family has questioned the accuracy of such accounts.

Santanna's grief-stricken sister Carolyn told PIX 11 News, "My brother is honestly my best friend and it's terrible that I have to lose him. He meant so much to everybody and it's just so sad that this tragedy is happening to my family because he really didn't deserve to go like that, or at all."

Carolyn added that "the police found a bag that was marked 'Salvia'...it was a little Zip Loc bag."

On Tuesday, PIX 11 News also spoke with the last person to see Ryan Santanna alive.

Speaking through tears in her Elmhurst apartment, Santanna's distraught former girlfriend Benazir Banali told PIX 11 News that Santanna had taken salvia and started acting strangely before suddenly pushing her away and taking a fatal leap off the balcony.

She says they talked about Miley Cyrus, who made national headlines after she was caught on camera apparently smoking salvia, the use of which did not appear to cause her any harm.

Salvia is the most potent naturally occurring hallucinogen in the world. It's a drug that has been banned or highly regulated in at least 23 U.S. states and 20 countries, but not New York. The drug produces mind-bending effects similar to LSD.

So where did Ryan Santanna get the Salvia that may have triggered his fatal leap? Banali told PIX 11 News they got it at a shop on St. Mark's place in Manhattan.

But in a startling new development, late Tuesday night Santanna's father spoke to PIX 11 News and raised questions about the veracity of Banali's statements, and about the sequence of events that lead up to his son's tragic death.

Lauro Santanna accused Banali, his son's ex-girlfriend, of "stalking" Ryan and suggested that her story of what happened was inconsistent and not an accurate retelling of events.

Santanna insisted his son's death was in no way a drug-induced suicide and said he was going to demand the Queens District Attorney's Office launch a full scale investigation in order to learn the truth of exactly what happened in the moments before his son died.

Funeral services for Ryan Santanna are planned for Friday.




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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14119598 - 03/14/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

a toxicology report would definately help clear this up.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: demon66]
    #14121335 - 03/14/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

shame. ythan; you will be missed

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: indica]
    #14122256 - 03/14/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why suicide he coulda panic'd and what type of salvia anyway? If he said she was stalking him that doesn't say much.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Konyap]
    #14122265 - 03/14/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

maybe he said fuck i cant stand listening to the sound of this bitches voice and jumped

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Konyap]
    #14122388 - 03/14/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

lol ^

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14122913 - 03/14/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Go to John Flanagan's contact page, and write him a nice email as to why Salvia Divinorum should not be banned. When you go to his page, just scroll down a little, and there will be a form and text box to fill out.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14124056 - 03/15/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Here is Flanagan's actual email address if anyone would rather shoot him an email there.

"flanagan@senate.state.ny.us"


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: destructo_low]
    #14124455 - 03/15/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

All drugs should be illegal.  Humans cannot handle freedom of choice.

We should make laws banning people from doing anything that potentially harms themselves, unless it makes somebody wealthy and powerful more wealthy and powerful.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Society]
    #14125907 - 03/15/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Society said:
All drugs should be illegal.  Humans cannot handle freedom of choice.

We should make laws banning people from doing anything that potentially harms themselves, unless it makes somebody wealthy and powerful more wealthy and powerful.





war on drugs, fuck yeah!  moar laws plz!!!!


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: yogabunny]
    #14126359 - 03/15/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

dont write to that guy unless

you have no spelling errors

the title of the email looks interesting and not upddiy and ranty with words like "EKeep ALsive LIGAL"

mention its like swimming or climbing a tree and more of it on the street would meen people who didnt know the side effects of it

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