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Invisiblegiza
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Superior genetics
    #14120452 - 03/14/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why are one set of genetics superior to another?
How are they earned?

My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.

Any insight on this?

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza]
    #14120482 - 03/14/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Since I don't believe in past lives, I'm gonna have to say it's just luck. At random, just like different traits of people.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: Eminence]
    #14120521 - 03/14/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Evolution

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: JohnnyZampano]
    #14121482 - 03/14/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is a topic of internal discussion for myself as well.

Maybe certain spiritual beings need intensely well-configured and durable vehicles to manifest on this plane and stay energetically connected to the body.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: circastes]
    #14121494 - 03/14/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Survival of the fittest.

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14121586 - 03/14/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So are we all at different stages of evolution?

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza] * 1
    #14121598 - 03/14/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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giza said:
Why are one set of genetics superior to another?
How are they earned?

My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.

Any insight on this?





That may be why i'm the most superior person here.:satansmoking:


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #14121882 - 03/14/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Certain genetics are superior because inferior ones were weeded out of the gene pool through natural selection. That's what makes them inferior. :shrug:


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: NetDiver]
    #14122693 - 03/14/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would think it would depend on your karma in this lifetime.
Most of the really intellegent people I know have a lot of health problems. What makes sense to me is that it depends on exactly what you need to grow, sometimes you need good health and an easy living. Sometimes you need bad health and poverty. :2cents:


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: ahchela]
    #14122989 - 03/14/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.






I agree with this. if you look around you will notice the way people look seriously matches their mentality. This is particularly noticeable when you move to a new place and you find all the people that match up and look like people you know from home actually have the same characteristics\personality as those people.

Lawyers kind of look like lawyers, athletes like athletes, poets like poets, greedy people like greedy people, overly-intellectuals like overly-intellectuals etc. Most people agree this is true however people explain it by saying that people treat you differently and expect different things out of you depending on the way you look. I think it goes deeper then that, the way you look on the outside is a direct reflection on your inner nature.

Meher confirms that this is the case.
"Meher Baba says that the body is moulded from the impressions you bring into this life to exhaust. In other words the impressions gathered in your previous life act as a kind of matrix to produce the media or form that is perfectly suitable for the expression of those impressions. Following are quotes from God Speaks by Meher Baba."

""In fact, the next-most human-form is nothing but the consolidated mould of the past impressions retained of the previous body or form that dissociated from the soul." (GS PDF v. p. 33)

"Thus the gross consciousness of the soul, after experiencing either hell or heaven, associates with the next human-form (takes another birth) to experience and exhaust the residual opposite impressions of the last birth. As has already been said, this next human - form of the soul is nothing but the consolidated mould of the residual opposite impressions of the last form." (GS PDF v. p. 34)

"It is but natural that the predominant qualities manifested now by this human soul will be in accordance with the predominant opposite impressions, of which this new human-form is but the mould." (GS PDF v. p. 37)

The way you look is determined by your subtle body (emotional body) which is composed of the attitude or view of life which you developed in your previous lifetime.

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What makes sense to me is that it depends on exactly what you need to grow, sometimes you need good health and an easy living. Sometimes you need bad health and poverty




I agree with this also. I believe for the most part natural mechanical forces (higher forces, however) work this out . Meher mentions how in one life a mans intellect will have to be restricted in order for the heart to play catchup. However the intellectual advancements are not destroyed by retained in the mental body or matrix.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: soldatheero]
    #14123117 - 03/15/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed and disagreed.
I do think the intellect is lost, but not the capacity or connection with cosmic consciousness. Mental and spiritual advancement continue and the intellect restarts, impressions make it easier to relearn as well.

So I guess we agree but I'm wording things slightly different / elaborating on the idea.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: ahchela]
    #14123546 - 03/15/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I see what you are saying and I think we are wording things differently. I agree "intellect restarts" if you mean details and actual information which of course has to be forgotten but I think the inner changes that take place when one realizes something intellectually stays, the impact intellectual realizations have on the state of the mind is permanent and continues.

To a certain degree your intellectual capacity in one life is determined by your brain power so in one life you may have a less powerful brain then in a previous, thereby restricting intellect.

According to Meher, what is learned in one lifetime is passed on to the next via intuition.

"At first
view it might seem that loss of memory of
previous lives is all a loss, but this is far from
being so. For most purposes, knowledge about past lives is not at
all necessary for the guidance of the onward course of spiritual
evolution. Spiritual evolution consists in guiding life in the light of
the highest values perceived through intuition, and not in allowing
it to be determined by the past."

You should checkout His Discourses it's packed with deep insights on the dynamics of reincarnation and karma.

Go to http://www.ambppct.org/meherbaba/Discourses.php and download the 6th Edition Volume 3, checkout chapter 5.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: soldatheero]
    #14123597 - 03/15/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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soldatheero said:
Quote:

My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.






I agree with this. if you look around you will notice the way people look seriously matches their mentality. This is particularly noticeable when you move to a new place and you find all the people that match up and look like people you know from home actually have the same characteristics\personality as those people.

Lawyers kind of look like lawyers, athletes like athletes, poets like poets, greedy people like greedy people, overly-intellectuals like overly-intellectuals etc. Most people agree this is true however people explain it by saying that people treat you differently and expect different things out of you depending on the way you look. I think it goes deeper then that, the way you look on the outside is a direct reflection on your inner nature.

Meher confirms that this is the case.
"Meher Baba says that the body is moulded from the impressions you bring into this life to exhaust. In other words the impressions gathered in your previous life act as a kind of matrix to produce the media or form that is perfectly suitable for the expression of those impressions. Following are quotes from God Speaks by Meher Baba."

""In fact, the next-most human-form is nothing but the consolidated mould of the past impressions retained of the previous body or form that dissociated from the soul." (GS PDF v. p. 33)

"Thus the gross consciousness of the soul, after experiencing either hell or heaven, associates with the next human-form (takes another birth) to experience and exhaust the residual opposite impressions of the last birth. As has already been said, this next human - form of the soul is nothing but the consolidated mould of the residual opposite impressions of the last form." (GS PDF v. p. 34)

"It is but natural that the predominant qualities manifested now by this human soul will be in accordance with the predominant opposite impressions, of which this new human-form is but the mould." (GS PDF v. p. 37)

The way you look is determined by your subtle body (emotional body) which is composed of the attitude or view of life which you developed in your previous lifetime.

Quote:

What makes sense to me is that it depends on exactly what you need to grow, sometimes you need good health and an easy living. Sometimes you need bad health and poverty




I agree with this also. I believe for the most part natural mechanical forces (higher forces, however) work this out . Meher mentions how in one life a mans intellect will have to be restricted in order for the heart to play catchup. However the intellectual advancements are not destroyed by retained in the mental body or matrix.




They talk about this "Theory" on an episode of P&T's bullshit.  Darwin was actually at risk to not join a sailing party because the captain claimed he did not have a "Sailors Nose."
While I do think that some physiological benefits come from specific genetics being isolated in particular climate for generation after generation (continuous); and that these genetics differences maybe be expressed in a visibly perceivable manner.  That's a far cry from a lawyer looking like a lawyer just as much as Darwin lacking a sailors nose.  Its been studied, its been disproven.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but you know your genes come from your parents right?  Their advantage or disadvantage to ones life (good genes vs bad genes) is determined entirely through an orderly "gamble" wherein parents traits are possibly selected and expressed physiologically in various degrees (i.e. if your parents have brown hair then its likely that you'll get brown hair, but not entirely guaranteed).

Lets say both my parents have testosterone genes that are naturally expressed in abundance (mom might have a hairy lip :wink: ).  I get the mix of genes from them, and chances are high that I'll also have an unusually high amount of testosterone post-puberty.  This means more strength, maybe success in football or other physical affinity  that helps my life?  In the end, I'd call that a relatively "Good" gene.  But then again its all dependent on circumstance, as testosterone (or other growth hormone) over expression would mean less to an individual that wasn't interested in physical pursuits.  So the definition of a gene's quality is determined by the way in which the surrounding environment interacts with its physical expression. 

BBbbbuuuttttt, it is still a gamble.  Just because my parents have genes that are lovely for their lives individually, it doesn't mean their mix will provide successful for me.  But thats anotherr can of worms.

And no, we are not really drifting away from each other and creating our own "Species."  You can take the argument that its all relative and the genetic shift is just a smaller degree of the genetic shift that occurs in life... but that's kind of a nit picky argument.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza]
    #14123640 - 03/15/11 03:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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giza said:
Why are one set of genetics superior to another?
How are they earned?

My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.

Any insight on this?




are you saying that we live and die continuously in cycles? what is the extent of our existence? infinite? finite? indefinite?


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14123726 - 03/15/11 04:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Evolve yourself out of the physical universe


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: Treefeeler]
    #14123764 - 03/15/11 05:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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  Its been studied, its been disproven.






Has it though? Seems like something that would be difficult to disprove. Show me


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: meatcakeman]
    #14125063 - 03/15/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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meatcakeman said:
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giza said:
Why are one set of genetics superior to another?
How are they earned?

My guess is that we've existed previously, meaning since we were alive in our past lives and our genetics have evolved, so if you have superior genetics they are because of your evolution and experience from your past lives.

Any insight on this?




are you saying that we live and die continuously in cycles? what is the extent of our existence? infinite? finite? indefinite?




Yes, I believe we are all infinite.
I believe that it takes a few life times of learning for us to comprehend everything.
Look how long it took for us to manipulate electricity.

Why do some subjects come quicker to others? Is it because they learned it in a past life so it comes to them quicker?

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza]
    #14125069 - 03/15/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No...some people are just intelligent, while some others are not.


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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza]
    #14125074 - 03/15/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

We already figured out how to exist hence birth.
So wouldn't that make us eternal, because we already know. Even if we cannot explain it.

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Re: Superior genetics [Re: giza]
    #14125118 - 03/15/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Okay I'll try to explain further..

The older a person gets, if they are dedicated the more intelligent they become.
- Such as moving from elementary - high school

So if you apply that to our past lives, the longer a person has been in existence the more intelligent they would be.

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