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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Abuse]
#14121255 - 03/14/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: These are my very favorite threads. 20 pages of rage are coming.
Don't get why people are so sensitive about others diets 
because if you dont eat what I eat you're unhealthy and I'm a nazi that says you have to or else you're a murdererer!
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Hakim0777]
#14121262 - 03/14/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hakim0777 said: Meat should be a side dish not a main course.
if we are what we eat then cows are vegetables and that makes me a vegetarian
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14121266 - 03/14/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannibals are the healthiest peoples of them all
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
#14121267 - 03/14/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The blanket statement:
A diet is a diet.
There are diets around the world that consist of eating mostly meat as a traditional form of food and the cultures that eat that have been healthier than the average American.
Its not about meat or not meat, or fat or not fat, its about following an eating pattern that your own body is comfortable with and sticking with it. The best thing to do is eat FOOD, and not food science (processed stuff disguised as natural food).
We all know vegetarians that have no energy, and we all know people that eat meat that are skinny as hell somehow. This debate is only existent because everyone thinks they are correct when it comes to diet for some reason, as if everyone has a similar lifestyle.
Eat what you eat if it works for you, fuck people that want you to change because they are assholes.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
#14121270 - 03/14/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Envix said: fats builds fats
fats are essential
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
#14121272 - 03/14/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Envix said: cannibals are the healthiest peoples of them all 
I like to call it proper Hutrition
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Drewwyann]
#14121280 - 03/14/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i never really understood eating patterns. you should just eat whatever you want to
but be conscious of the knowledge available to you about nutrition and incorporate healthy foods that you enjoy into your eating habits
the problem i think with most people is they're prone to patterns. and avoid trying new things
the best "diet" is one with lots of variety
light as possible, and fresh as possible
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix] 1
#14121306 - 03/14/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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100% red meat diet or GTFO
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
#14121312 - 03/14/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Envix said: i never really understood eating patterns. you should just eat whatever you want to
but be conscious of the knowledge available to you about nutrition and incorporate healthy foods that you enjoy into your eating habits
the problem i think with most people is they're prone to patterns. and avoid trying new things
the best "diet" is one with lots of variety
nutritionISM is an ISM for a reason. It is based off of things that are invisible and are supposedly good for your health, but nutritionism has only realy existed for the past 50 or so years. People have been eating food technically since we werent even human beings. Fat is good for you, carbs and protein have both been 'proven' to be extremely healthy and bad for you in the past 40 years.
Look at cultures with traditional foods that cook for themselves and have virtually no obesity and you will see trends. They eat the same foods consistently with variation, but everyone have patterns. You get pizza monday, tuesday salad for lunch, friday burger and fries, etc etc etc. Nobody actually eats completely different stuff every day, we all have eating patterns 
Edit: I word things poorly sometimes. Animal fats are not bad fats, they are part of a natural human diet. My point is that no foods from nature are actually bad for you in many quantities if they are truly natural, but lifestyle comes into play as much or more so than the food as well as personal eating habits.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Drewwyann]
#14121333 - 03/14/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems relevant.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: blewmeanie]
#14121347 - 03/14/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Drewwyann]
#14121348 - 03/14/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said: but nutritionism has only realy existed for the past 50 or so years.
that's also about as long as its been since they started poisoning the human food supply through corporatism and manufacturing/selling by-processed crap to the masses
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
#14121382 - 03/14/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said: but nutritionism has only realy existed for the past 50 or so years.
that's also about as long as they started poisoning the human food supply through corporatism and manufacturing/selling by-processed crap to the masses
exactly, the two go hand in hand actually. nutritionism largely justifies and gives way to processed foods to be disguised as actual foods, when in reality they are NUTRIENTS put together to look like a natural product.
In 1938 they passed a law that any imitation food product had to be labelled 'imitation' on the package. in 1978, the FDA (not the congress that passed the Imitation Act) repealed the act and now things such as 'low carb spaghetti' can be called spaghetti, even though it is a mish mash of ingredients that resemble a once natural food.
nutrition labels also allow this to happen by showing us how 'nutritious' a manufactured food is when in reality you should just eat some normal, grown from the earth food and stop worrying about the fictitious 'nutrional' information of the food.
What is healthy about celery? there are no nutrients to speak of, yet it is good for you because of how it is structured, and the amount of water in it. Most people could get all they need in a day from a few handfuls of food if they do it correctly.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: PreparationH]
#14121391 - 03/14/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: 100% red meat diet or GTFO
been there, done that... I was healthy until I started eating veggies, not the cow type veggies but the other kind like the bunnies eat
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14121717 - 03/14/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: wwonka]
#14122403 - 03/14/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been living without starchy foods for the past month and I have to say I think it's the optimal diet for athletes. All my energy is derived from proteins and fats with veggies being my only source of sugars alongside the occasional fruit.
A lot of nutritional information is twisted and morphed into the most bizarre logical deductions. Take the new raw food diet, I tried it for a few days out of curiosity and I felt almost no energy and could barely move. All the people I've known who have been on that diet seem weak and mentally unstable as well.
Even common knowledge and the food pyramind is shit.
Eat lots of veggies, meat, and fat. That's what your body has evolved to eat over the past million years. Go try eating some raw grains and see how well you fare off.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: MoxyOx]
#14122469 - 03/14/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I pretty much eat like a robot and my diet is iight, be better if I had the money but it is probably 60% carbs, 25% protein, and 15% fats maybe even less.
Use www.fitday.com if you care to track that shit.
How can you claim you get the most energy from protein when it's carbs that fill your glycogen stores?
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: PreparationH]
#14122763 - 03/14/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really don't want to bother going into the science of it because the human body is still not completely understood and any attempts at biological models that aid in understanding it are inadequate. Plus, I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to human physiology. :P
I'm simply going by how I feel. Many people have had success with this, and so have I. It makes total sense through an evolutionary scope as well.
When the advent of agriculture began and most of human cultures started farming wheat/sugars/rice is also the period when the bone density and stature along with health of each individual human began to decline. Starchy foods give you a false feeling of health it seems to me. It has a tendency to mask underlying issues.
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#14122829 - 03/14/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I really don't want to bother going into the science of it"
nuff said.
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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: PreparationH]
#14122894 - 03/14/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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All I know is that both of my parents go on the Atkins meat diet when they get overweight (cut out carbs and stick to high-protein foods) and it works really well for them.
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