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Lucrin
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Newbie Advice
#14122218 - 03/14/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok so I am new to the shroom/lsd scene and I have some questions. I have a friend who just got his hand on some lsd and offered for me to try it with him. This is a close friend for many years now and he has experience with a variety of drugs from lsd to shrooms, pot, and extacy. I have been researching the risks of LSD and it seems that the risk of a bad trip is pretty low as long as you go into it with an open mind and are in a good setting with good people. I can handle that. My question is more of a comparison between shrooms and lsd.
I know generally lsd has a worse stigma and is viewed as more intense than shrooms but after I have read more about it, I seem to be finding that may not be the case. My question is how have your experiences with either been? Which do you find is easier to handle as a first timer? And do you think I will be ok to try lsd or should I try shrooms first to see if I like it since it doesn't last as long? Thanks for the help.
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Re: Newbie Advice [Re: Lucrin]
#14122405 - 03/14/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lucrin said: Ok so I am new to the shroom/lsd scene and I have some questions. I have a friend who just got his hand on some lsd and offered for me to try it with him. This is a close friend for many years now and he has experience with a variety of drugs from lsd to shrooms, pot, and extacy. I have been researching the risks of LSD and it seems that the risk of a bad trip is pretty low as long as you go into it with an open mind and are in a good setting with good people. I can handle that. My question is more of a comparison between shrooms and lsd.
I know generally lsd has a worse stigma and is viewed as more intense than shrooms but after I have read more about it, I seem to be finding that may not be the case. My question is how have your experiences with either been? Which do you find is easier to handle as a first timer? And do you think I will be ok to try lsd or should I try shrooms first to see if I like it since it doesn't last as long? Thanks for the help.
I have taken acid, oh god, what, 9 times? maybe 10. Anyways, I've only had one really bad trip, and it was the most horrifying experience of my life. HOWEVER it was mainly because I decided to take 2 hits of extremely potent Shivas (150-200micrograms apiece) in my room alone with my parents asleep upstairs. Do not do that. Here's my seven rules of LSD, if you can follow them you'll have a great time.
1. Trip with a friend, especially if its your first time. 2. Avoid people who aren't on LSD, especially if its your first time. 3. Avoid rooftops. 4. RELAX. You're going to be on a drug for at least 8 hours, assuming you take a decently potent dose. Sit back and enjoy it. As they say, "turn off your mind, relax and float downstream." 5. Turn your cell phone off. It isn't difficult to carry on a conversation on acid, even with sober people, but sometimes random things can cause your brain to make strange or uncomfortable connections. 6. Don't be stagnant. This means don't get too caught up inside your own head. Listen to your favorite album. Go on a walk. "Smoke some grass, shoot some fucking smack, do whatever you gotta do, man..." 7. Be prepared. Acid is a wonderful drug. You will probably experience a feeling of being "smarter" than you ever have been before. If you start to feel overwhelmed or uncomfortable, head on back to rule #5 and do something you like.
It sounds like you have a pretty good idea of set & setting already. Should be a great time! As far as LSD vs. shrooms, I've never had a bad trip on shrooms, but from what I've picked up they're more common than bad trips on acid. Just... don't think about having a bad trip and you won't. If you do, the cool thing about acid is you can always turn it around pretty easily. And if you're with friends, its pretty much just not going to happen.
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Good rules from An Octopus, I reckon!
A lot of people say acid is more "electric" than mushrooms. I suppose that's a subjective thing to say, and doesn't really make much sense till you've tried both.
Make sure to prepare yourself for Acid (although when I say this to friends who are new to acid, it often makes them more nervous... perhaps they're not ready, or I'm shit at calming people...).
I think it is the sort of thing you do need to be prepared for though, read some interesting books before the trip, fill your head with ideas you'd like to explore, go in to the trip with an intention of a sort. Try and write (TRY being the key word), but most of all, explore and don't hold yourself to any rules (apart from rules like, fire IS real, no you CAN'T fly etc.).
Psychedelics are about exploration, and things are best explored when you're comfortable.
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Re: Newbie Advice [Re: ZenXi6]
#14122844 - 03/14/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Acid keeps your feet planted a lot firmer on the ground. That being said, it is very much dual-sided unlike mushrooms. It tends to be either a primarily heady or visual trip, each with very unique characteristics, at least until you get up into higher doses at which point there are just no rules haha...anyway, mushrooms tend to stick to their own rules a bit more it seems, whereas acid can just be all over the place. Typically though, I'd say the clear-headedness of an acid trip makes it easier to handle.
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My 2 cents:
Most generally the difference between acid and acid is length of trip and the fact that acid will give you several peaks, you'll think you're coming down then all of a sudden youre tripping balls again, shrooms is just straight to peak and back down.
In my experience, shrooms are wilder, more spiritual and I tend to get better vibes from acid. Really though, they're pretty similar. Something interesting that I've noticed about my heavier shroom trips is as I begin to lose my ego I feel like I'm falling into a dark hole whereas on acid I feel like I'm melting/fusing into my surroundings.
I think the fact that its easier to consume heavier doses of acid than it is shrooms makes acid seem like the more intense drug. They really take you to the same heights though.
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hehe... and enter subjectivity!
I actually feel the opposite about mushrooms and acid to what ohcrapitsnico just described... I PREFER the wilder more spiritual feeling of the mushrooms to acid. But, that's partly perhaps because I like feeling in touch with the Earth and I enjoy picking mushrooms.. I consider it sacrament, and the places were picked sacred.
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Re: Newbie Advice [Re: ZenXi6]
#14123166 - 03/15/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone all this feedback is helping me a lot. Still open to anyone elses thoughts/stories
EDIT: Also I have another question. I am gonna ask my friend about this tomorrow but I was wondering is there any special kinds of acid like there is for say weed? Or is it just dosage and that's it? Which brings up the question how do you know what the dosage is of the tabs you get? Just have to trust your supplier?
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Re: Newbie Advice [Re: Lucrin]
#14126621 - 03/15/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lucrin said: Thanks everyone all this feedback is helping me a lot. Still open to anyone elses thoughts/stories
EDIT: Also I have another question. I am gonna ask my friend about this tomorrow but I was wondering is there any special kinds of acid like there is for say weed? Or is it just dosage and that's it? Which brings up the question how do you know what the dosage is of the tabs you get? Just have to trust your supplier?
The potency of a dose of acid is measured in the amount of LSD on each hit. It's measured in micrograms ("mics"). Some blotters come from highly skilled producers, are printed with a specific image or pattern, and may or may not be sold under a "brand name" sort of like how weed is.
But it really comes down to trusting your supplier, yeah. I don't dose unless I hear a report from someone who's taken hits from the same batch. You also have to factor in things like body weight.
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tokinman21
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Lucrin said:
But it really comes down to trusting your supplier, yeah. I don't dose unless I hear a report from someone who's taken hits from the same batch. You also have to factor in things like body weight.
This. Body weight is irrelevant concerning LSD though.
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An Octopus
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Is it? I've heard different things. I know it's important for shrooms; I guess it wouldn't make sense for a few micrograms of a substance to have a different effect based on body weight.
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An Octopus said: Is it? I've heard different things. I know it's important for shrooms; I guess it wouldn't make sense for a few micrograms of a substance to have a different effect based on body weight.
I've always read and been told that it is irrelevant. Are you sure about that with mushrooms, though? I always just assumed it was irrelevant there too, and nobody ever posts body weight with dosages in trip reports and whatnot.
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