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Meat eaters/vegatarian topic.
    #14120878 - 03/14/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

some girl on facebook said shes a pescatarian on a status then she said :

"its actually bad to eat meat every day ,you should eat at least twice a week cause it takes a lot of energy and work for your stomach to digest the food so if you're eating meat with vegetables your stomach will push aside the vegetables and try to digest the meat and thats not good"

I asked to explain further because It didn't make sense to me, and she said:

"no sea food is lighter and meat has more fat and sea food is overall healthier , no the vegetables will just get stored and it will be like you didn't eat them at all ,so its good to separate your food and not eat meat every day"

how wrong is she? Or am I wrong?


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Zardos]
    #14120917 - 03/14/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Im a pescatarian(macrobiotic actually) myself and I think she has the right idea but is just horrible with words and explaining things, nor does she really understand why she is doing it but her intent is good and i think she' in tuned with her body enough to feel all of this but mentally she is not all there.
She sounds like an idiot and seafood IS meat, but seafood is also much heavier than vegetables and i agree that it's not something that needs to be eaten everyday.

Vegetables do not get "stored" and it will not be like you didnt eat them at all.

I was a 6 year vegetarian and a 2 year vegan before i opted to go macrobiotic. I do not eat eggs or dairy but I eat fish once or twice a week.

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Macrobiotics vs. vegetarianism

A macrobiotic diet includes many of the same foods as vegetarian diets, but in macrobiotics some types of fish and other animal foods are included according to individual needs. The two dietary styles share enough similarities that a vegetarian and even vegan version of macrobiotics is not uncommon.

Macrobiotics is based on traditional ways of eating . While there are no completely vegan cultures among them, the longest-lived cultures around the world consume between 70% and 99% whole plant foods, according to John Robbins, a well-known vegan advocate and animal rights activist, in Healthy at 100. The American Dietetic Association approves of carefully planned vegan diets. In the words of the Association, "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.... It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."[11] However, as part of their dietary guidelines, the association did not opine against meat consumption, recommending that healthy adults eat lean meat, poultry, fish or beans each day, as lean meat has many essential nutrients without excess fat or cholesterol.[12]

On the other hand, according to the USDA's discussion of its current food pyramid, "Dry beans and peas are part of this [meat and beans] group as well as the vegetable group. ... Fish, nuts, and seeds contain healthy oils, so choose these foods frequently instead of meat or poultry."[13] Under the heading "Why is it important to include fish, nuts, and seeds?" they say, "Many people do not make varied choices from this food group, selecting meat or poultry everyday as their main dishes."[14]





Conclusion: you are both wrong. Meat does not push vegetables out of the way in the stomach but it DOES take longer to digest and sorta slows you down while it's being digested. However it creates more energy once it IS digested.
A vegetarian diet is going to give you more energy more of the time but its a more subtle energy as where a meat heavy diet is going to give you bursts of energy then you'll feel drained.

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Zardos]
    #14120952 - 03/14/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i think once you chewed everything your stommy doesnt care whats in that mash up. true is
that your stomach takes way longer to digest meat (i think its because the breakdown of
the proteins and fats, but i'm not sure).

edit well played mr.muscaria. :smile:


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: godisanastronaut]
    #14120975 - 03/14/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

im skinny as fuck and if i dont eat some kind of meat everyday my skeleton would be visible through my skin


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
    #14121035 - 03/14/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's a common misconception. I know not one but two vegetarians who are 300+ lbs. These arent people who just recently became vegetarian for health reasons either, these are like long term been for over 5 years vegetarians.

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
    #14121046 - 03/14/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

that's unusual


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
    #14121061 - 03/14/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i dont even care about this article and i was a vegetarian for awhile................now im not and ive gotten fatter, it sux.

i need to go on a chink diet asap.

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14121071 - 03/14/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Conclusion: you are both wrong. Meat does not push vegetables out of the way in the stomach but it DOES take longer to digest and sorta slows you down while it's being digested.




nope... most foods take 3-4 hours to digest including meats, foods higher in
sugars will give you the short bursts of energy while foods like meats help
to build and maintain muscle mass as well as provide a lot of other
nutrients, some veggies are difficult to digest and nutrients arent always
bioavailable through veggies

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #14121090 - 03/14/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

vegetarians are retarded

:lol:


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Zardos]
    #14121097 - 03/14/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

now im hungry


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Abuse] * 1
    #14121103 - 03/14/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

These are my very favorite threads. 20 pages of rage are coming.:lol:


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14121113 - 03/14/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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blewmeanie said:
These are my very favorite threads. 20 pages of rage are coming.:lol:




Don't get why people are so sensitive about others diets :shrug:


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Abuse]
    #14121129 - 03/14/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's what happens when you feminize yourself with an unhealthy diet free of the meat you require. You start acting all womanly and offended by everything other people do.:lol:

Just kidding, I'm only fanning the flames.


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix] * 1
    #14121135 - 03/14/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Envix said:
im skinny as fuck and if i dont eat some kind of meat everyday my skeleton would be visible through my skin




Sounds like bullshit to me.  Im skinny as fuck too, and can do well on a low meat diet.

Americans will invent any excuse they can to justify over eating meat.  The best ratio for an individual may vary, buts its sure as hell not the main course of two meals a day every day.

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: DieCommie]
    #14121156 - 03/14/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Typical liberal gaia worshiping rhetoric. Take your shoeless free love cult elsewhere hippie. :snub:


I actually completely agree with you. I've found that about once or twice a week seems to suit me best.


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14121168 - 03/14/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I generally eat meat every day, but usually in one meal only and in a smaller portion than my grains and vegetables.  That is probably even more than I 'need', but I like it.  :awesome:

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: DieCommie]
    #14121198 - 03/14/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't eat meat every day but that's mainly because i can't afford it

and i know how certain foods affect me because well, i see my body every day


remember the pyramid



basically i see it like this..

meat = protein
fruits & veggies = vitamins
grains & nuts = fiber
bread & starches = carbs
dairy & eggs = fats

protein builds muscles & regenerates cells
vitamins keep u healthy
fiber helps u poop & keep ur system clean
carbs keep u energized
fats builds fats


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Abuse]
    #14121225 - 03/14/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have experimented with being vegetarian, and whatever people say about being vegatarian is more healthy is a lot of BS. Though its good to eat lots of vegetablesm, meat is a excellent source of energy and protien. When i was vegetarian i got pretty skinny, i was tierd all the time, and got really judgmental of others. My sex drive decreased significantly, and i was extremly sensitive to cold weather. It was difficult to make it through the winter. Vegetarianism is basically a religioun to a lot of people and if you feel healthy on it then its good. But know some people CANNOT do it because of their genetics and there body types. I cannot be vegetarian and i tried it. It really sucks to be hungry all the time, people that say vegetarian is the only way should be slapped in the face.

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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Envix]
    #14121240 - 03/14/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I dont care if meat eaters want to eat meat but I always find it funny how some meat eaters seem genuinely pissed that someone doesnt eat meat hahaha. Vice versa too.

Imo there's nothing wrong with eating meat thats your choice, its the amount that is fucked up. Meat should be a side dish not a main course.


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Re: Meat eaters/vegatarian topic. [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14121243 - 03/14/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't see why anyone would care what other people eat

i only care about what i eat


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