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Methoxetamine - Wow!
    #14075012 - 03/06/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just thought I'd recommend this to all you cosmic consciousness lovers out there. This one is a real REAL gem (I had previously written up saying I didn't like it but it came to light that what I had had was a tiletamine analogue).

For me I've tried the full whack of 150mg twice and both times it has reliably produced the deepest meditative nirvanic cosmic consciousness experience. The experience starts with a four hour stage which is very VERY maniacal and not all together pleasant but if you are alright with such things it lets on to a second four hour stage which as far as I can tell is of a completely different nature altogether.

It's this second stage which has deeply impressed me more that anything drugs wise I've yet done. This was the deepest most healing trancendental blablabla void source one cosmic floating elephants in cyberspace experience I have ever had bar none BOTH of the times I did it. The afterglow seems pretty profoundly altering, very humbling and it seems my body let off some serious steam and trapped kundalini energy.

So yeah really really impressed with this stuff and highly recommend it to all you shroomerite psychonauts out there. Fuck meditating for years to obtain nirvanic bliss, just get this stuff it's cheap and legally available from UK vendors (the herbal highs forum is a good place to figure out the legit ones).


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14076420 - 03/06/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

just looking into it now..

an analogue of ketamine?! I'm definitely intrigued .  there's something about those NMDA receptor antagonists, especially ibogaine. 

is it comparable at all to k?

this one's definitely on my to buy list now.. thanks for the rec.

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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14077241 - 03/06/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, thanks for sharing. I read about this a few months back and was very interested, but didnt know it was available. I love dissociatives, gonna try to find this stuff.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14079345 - 03/07/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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is it comparable at all to k?




Ketamine is often just a bit of a mindless fun from what I've seen, this stuff was deeply profound. The second stage was so different to the first I can scarce believe it. The first stage of this stuff isn't that great but it is interesting to be so totally out of your mind, it has delusional mania of ketamine x10 for the first four hours, I suspect the experience may have something to do with this somehow emptying your mind and "preping" you for the next stage. The experience is roughly 7/9 hours longer (I think I took probably close to 200 looking at the size of the line in the morning and didn't get to sleep from 7pm-7am so that's 12 hours) and it's perhaps twice as potent as ketamine but it also has stimulant properties rather than the lucid sedative of ketamine. Anyone dissociative naieve would want to be fairly careful with it as it's not ketamine (which you can trash yourself with and do as much as you want of no problem) and even as a fairly regular dissociative user I wouldn't want to go over 200mg.

I can honestly say I've never had any experience like it and never gone so deep into a god consciousness state, it was absoloutely mindblowing, I'd just be floating through these infinite caverns with deep state waving soft visuals almost without thought and in the most unbelievably peaceful bliss and beatitude. Another big difference is it's much less "zonk'd out and sedated" than K quite a clear experience in the second half.

The second time reminded me of this JM poem pretty strongly. :lol:

We of the purple glove
We of the starling flight
& velvet hour
We of arabic pleasures's breed
We of sundome & the night
Give us creed
To believe
A nightr of lust
Give us trust in
The Night
Give of color
hundred hues
a rich mandala
for me & for you
& for your silky
pillowed house
a head, wisdom
& a bed


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14079596 - 03/07/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

interesting, can't wait :smile:  I found ONE legit source that ships to Canada, luckily it's not banned here yet.. hopefully we don't follow our on-the-ball neighbor :nonono:

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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14080710 - 03/07/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Have you tried 5-MeO-DMT Grapefruit?


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Chronic7]
    #14080734 - 03/07/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't, sounds like a thoroughly interesting chemical though.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14119176 - 03/14/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Bump. Anymore new (or additional) experiences with this chemical here at the Shroomery?

At Bluelight there is a small undercurrent of "magical" enthusiasm about the MXE deep space and afterglow that reminds me of some of Lilly's writing, sans delusion.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The Whale]
    #14119231 - 03/14/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lol seemed like a pretty delusional experience to me. :shrug: :popcorn:


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14119258 - 03/14/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Is it delusional like Datura-delusional?

Thanks for the info btw, something i'll have to look into further, sounds interesting.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14119806 - 03/14/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Lol seemed like a pretty delusional experience to me. :shrug: :popcorn:




When the car windows are fogged and the outside world is blurred, I'm more likely to realize I'm driving a car and suddenly take interest in adjusting the thermostat to clear the fog.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14119972 - 03/14/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It's not a scary drug, there's lots of god stuff to it but I don't really put any credence in any of it, fun and can be good for you. Mind you, you are probably frying a good few brain cells with this one.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14119997 - 03/14/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mind you, you are probably frying a good few brain cells with this one.




Antagonizing NMDA receptors and inhibiting dopamine reuptake is a common action of many drugs. I've read it is more potent and less likely to have the unfavorable physiological side effects of ketamine, though the dose-response curve is sharper and overdose is possible.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The Whale]
    #14120009 - 03/14/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It sure feels a good amount more manic and more intense than ketamine, this may well not be of any relation to how much it harms your brain though. If I had to guess from subjective experience it would be that it was worse. Best not to say anything though as there's no decent objective evidence about it.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14120028 - 03/14/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Grapefruit said:
It sure feels a good amount more manic and more intense than ketamine, this may well not be of any relation to how much it harms your brain though. If I had to guess from subjective experience it would be that it was worse. Best not to say anything though as there's no decent objective evidence about it.




Pretty sound advice there.

I didn't go very deep with ketamine, the hypoxia and breathing suppression isn't my cup of chai.

I enjoy the mania. I'm too fucking laid back as it is and do a good job of maintaining reality. A monkey wrench here and there is good for shits and giggles, if not metaprogramming.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The Whale]
    #14178206 - 03/24/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

BUMP!

I'm so excited to try this.. the huge K fan I am and all. Anyway is 100mg for 15 bucks fair? Just wondering...

Also what's the comparison with the "hole"?


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: dwtk]
    #14178216 - 03/24/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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dwtk said:
BUMP!

I'm so excited to try this.. the huge K fan I am and all. Anyway is 100mg for 15 bucks fair? Just wondering...

Also what's the comparison with the "hole"?




There are good hole comparisons on Bluelight.

Average vendor price looks around 30 USD for 500mg.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The Whale]
    #14178741 - 03/24/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The Whale said:
Quote:

dwtk said:
BUMP!

I'm so excited to try this.. the huge K fan I am and all. Anyway is 100mg for 15 bucks fair? Just wondering...

Also what's the comparison with the "hole"?




There are good hole comparisons on Bluelight.

Average vendor price looks around 30 USD for 500mg.




wtf seriously? damn i'm glad you told me.. would have gotten ripped off

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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: The Whale]
    #14178746 - 03/24/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i enjoy it. doing 100mg line tonight after the molly i took gets going a little bit. interested to see what it's like with molly, because it is seriously cool with 2ci.

it is a little creepy though. i think the introspective and euphoric aspects of it combined with the dissociative effects make me paranoid at points.


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Re: Methoxetamine - Wow! [Re: millzy]
    #14178760 - 03/24/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Paranoid, how?

I've read a little about the "mania" that it produces, but I never encountered much explanation.


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