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Invisiblep4kSouL
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    #14119134 - 03/14/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

People judge things without experimenting. They use "i need proof" as their excuse to not practicing & experimenting with results. Shouldnt 1000 and 1000 testimonies and personal experience stories be enough to believe altered states are possible, and make it worth trying things out. Same with UFO's.

I know a lot of these disbeliever people, i think its because they grew up a happy life and they attached to that happy life and think there is no other realities possible.


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Re: Why do [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14119274 - 03/14/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think it has something to do with the unknown threatening peoples realities.  If an idea relates to something outside of a person's reality, then that subject presents a clear threat to their reality, or ego.  So in order to keep their reality and ego intact, they deny anything they don't understand.  I have quite a few friends like this and I'll talk about any subject because I really don't pick either side of the argument.  The whole discussion of aliens is always entertaining and usually comes down to their point of, "Where's the proof of aliens?"  At which time, especially if they are religious, I'll ask for proof of God.  Never ends well.


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Re: Why do [Re: NoOneImportant]
    #14119344 - 03/14/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Because people are highly invested in how they see world and how they see themselves. If someone comes along claiming something that damages their world view it is essentially damaging themselves, and they can't have that. So they just refuse to believe any of it and stick with what they think they know, people like their security.

I am highly skeptical of most of this type of stuff and feel it could be explained logically as something else, but I do not dismiss it without consideration. I take noting on blind faith though. So what if 1,000,000 people say something is rock solid truth, it does not make it so, majority opinion is not truth. But if I was interested in learning the truth I would investigate it for myself and judge the results for myself.

But more often then now I just don't give a shit. Who cares? I feel a lot of it is just mental masturbation and another form of distraction, so I don't really bother either way.


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Re: Why do [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14119386 - 03/14/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
People judge things without experimenting. They use "i need proof" as their excuse to not practicing & experimenting with results. Shouldnt 1000 and 1000 testimonies and personal experience stories be enough to believe altered states are possible, and make it worth trying things out. Same with UFO's.

I know a lot of these disbeliever people, i think its because they grew up a happy life and they attached to that happy life and think there is no other realities possible.





Nobody has the time to try everything. Who'd need a library if we did.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: Why do [Re: Icelander]
    #14120912 - 03/14/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok then if people dont have time, then why are they judging. Someone should not judge something without having some kind of experimentation with it first, or that is just plain ignorance.


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Re: Why do [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14124121 - 03/15/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
Ok then if people dont have time, then why are they judging. Someone should not judge something without having some kind of experimentation with it first, or that is just plain ignorance.




Isn't that a judgement of people that judge?


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Re: Why do [Re: NoOneImportant]
    #14124194 - 03/15/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Why do [Re: Icelander]
    #14124321 - 03/15/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
People judge things without experimenting. They use "i need proof" as their excuse to not practicing & experimenting with results. Shouldnt 1000 and 1000 testimonies and personal experience stories be enough to believe altered states are possible, and make it worth trying things out. Same with UFO's.

I know a lot of these disbeliever people, i think its because they grew up a happy life and they attached to that happy life and think there is no other realities possible.





Nobody has the time to try everything. Who'd need a library if we did.




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Re: Why do [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14124415 - 03/15/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
Ok then if people dont have time, then why are they judging. Someone should not judge something without having some kind of experimentation with it first, or that is just plain ignorance.





You can research others experiences.  I can tell that the moon is not bigger next to the horizon as compared to  in the upper sky due to the fact that I read about and now understand optical illusion effect.  Yet I've never personally measured the moon in both places.


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Invisiblep4kSouL
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Re: Why do [Re: Icelander]
    #14127577 - 03/15/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright good point. Maye the gods decide.


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Re: Why do [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14129021 - 03/16/11 03:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
Shouldnt 1000 and 1000 testimonies and personal experience stories be enough to believe altered states are possible, and make it worth trying things out. Same with UFO's.


No, people make shit up all the fucking time; they're more dishonest than honest with themselves and others. :sadyes:


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I know a lot of these disbeliever people, i think its because they grew up a happy life and they attached to that happy life and think there is no other realities possible.


It can also have to do with the fact that they are able to think critically. :shrug:


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