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first grow success. question w/ *PICS*
    #14118987 - 03/14/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my first post here, was "does your shit stink" it actually had not much to do with growing but did peoples mush stink, i discovered it was a dead rat in my attic.

question: i have got two/three/four tiny pinheads, pictured below, that are almost darker than a bruised blue. they almost are black? my LED light did drop on top of the cake once or twice and could have caused bruising but none of the others are anywhere NEAR this dark.

id like to know if these are contaminated or what? i am a noob and yall have been a tremendous help. so im coming back to ask for more help!



three darkies



and this guy growing straight down below the one growing up. if it touches or lays on the perlite should i be worried? or pick it before it get fucked up?

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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119020 - 03/14/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

1.The black ones are aborts...dont worry they r good to eat!

2.just put some alu foil under the shroom so its not in conntact with perlite!


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119023 - 03/14/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the three darkies are aborts; happens from time to time. just harvest them with the rest of the cluster.
if you dont want to eat them, throw them out.

shrooms touching the perlite isnt a worry.
btw, they look (almost) mature and are ready to be picked.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119030 - 03/14/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow. dead rat huh? that would blow. you mushies look fine those black ones are aborts and you wanna pick em before they get black like that.  i would even scrap them if you wanna be safe.

If the cap hits the perlite its not the end of the world but it can be troublesome getting it cleaned off when ready.

If you keep getting aborts like that, more than fully grown ones, there is a condition that is holding them back; water, FAE, or even light.

Just watch and let wonders of growth (and pcilo) fill your head.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Pen16]
    #14119144 - 03/14/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

wow quick yall, thanks. okay going to put a little tin foil under them.

about the "being mature" i am aiming for a little larger, bulkier, meaty fruits so I think I will let them go for a few days more.

RH=99%
temp=72-75

LED blue light, a little smaller than a CD
got an aquarium pump recycling the air constantly.

so i should pick those aborts now? and what you do mean by scraping them off for safety? and if i can eat aborts, why would i throw them out? HA, just wondering?

thanks yalll


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119167 - 03/14/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

U r not gonna get any more(dry) weight after veil is broken...only if u preffer open caps let them go lil bit more!

Aborts are perfectly safe to eat...some say they r more potent gr to gr then fully mature fruit!


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Perun]
    #14119219 - 03/14/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you will get more weight, but not more magic; i think thats what you mean.


theres no benefit of letting them open their caps completely, except for taking prints.

for meatier and bigger shrooms you have to either go bulk or change the conditions like fae...
furthermore i think manually fanning or a properly built sgfc will do better than these air pumps.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
    #14119226 - 03/14/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Perun]
    #14119245 - 03/14/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks perun. i think ill give them one more day. any suggestions on achieving the max amt of dry weight besides having more cakes/etc.    also i have one cake that has yet to pin. it has what i hope are tiny tiny little ones coming but cant quite tell yet. it has been a week today they have been in the FC. and i hear 12 hr on 12 hr off. is that necessarily true/needed?:tongue2:

when you say go bulk, whats that mean? using like a bulk substrate, not cakes? cause im brand new, just got lucky and took precautions and yall helped alot. another thing, FAE = what? and FGC = ? although i do fan and open the FC about 3 times a day for maybe just a few minutes, tops like 3-5 min.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119326 - 03/14/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pcubensisms said:
using like a bulk substrate, not cakes?



right.
but cakes are easy going; the best to start with.

fae = frequently air exchange
sgfc = shotgun fruiting chamber (and how to build one)


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
    #14119408 - 03/14/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

k nice thanks man. check back tomorrow or somethin i will post pics of whats goin on.
so i can pic the aborts and dehydrate them and then theyre okay to consume?


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14119619 - 03/14/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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higgledy-piggledy said:
you will get more weight, but not more magic; i think thats what you mean.




No! I DO mean after veil is broken u r geting only water weight and not dry...fresh weight will be higher,but dry will be the same as if u picked them just as the veil is broken!

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pcubensisms said:
thanks perun. i think ill give them one more day. any suggestions on achieving the max amt of dry weight besides having more cakes/etc.    also i have one cake that has yet to pin. it has what i hope are tiny tiny little ones coming but cant quite tell yet. it has been a week today they have been in the FC. and i hear 12 hr on 12 hr off. is that necessarily true/needed?:tongue2:

when you say go bulk, whats that mean? using like a bulk substrate, not cakes? cause im brand new, just got lucky and took precautions and yall helped alot. another thing, FAE = what? and FGC = ? although i do fan and open the FC about 3 times a day for maybe just a few minutes, tops like 3-5 min.




:cheers:

Yeah! 12 hrs on/12 off with 6500K light bulb helps a lot...not as much as pining trigger,but your fruits will be much healthier!4

If u want higher yield,go for grain and then spawn to bulk(coir/verm mix;H poo,straw...)
Check this...is really "Noob" friendly:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=12895332&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

and then

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=11916595&fpart=&PHPSESSID=


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Perun]
    #14124079 - 03/15/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks so much for the TEK. i am excited my first time i am getting results.
heres the deal. picked one cake, all were broken veil and i waited maybe a day too long. theyre great though. pic below. also, after I have picked it, do I leave it in FC until it pins again, or should I wait a week, then dunk, then re-introduce to the FC? if i do let it stand for a week, i think i read that somewhere, where do i keep it? just in the FC? or the fridge?
anyway, very happy with whats going on now but i want a bulkier heavier bigger yield! i gotta get this way down pat first then ill move on to the bulk substrate junk. THANKS YALL. these are gulf coast/creeper/ecuadorian. dont know which is which ha. theyre all be great.

also, one of my cakes still has not pinned, not at all. should i dunk it? i birthed them into the FC sunday the 5th around 1:00 PM. so its been ten days give or take some hours heh.











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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14124641 - 03/15/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey bro, congrats on these nice fruits.
they look awesome. muy bien!
forget the commercial names of them; they will all do the trick.

:feelsgoodman:


as to your questions:

after harvest you usually give your cakes a 24 h dunk.
i also read about the extra 'drying week', keeping them just in the fc, but i would recommend dunking them now; the second flush will be abundant.


as to the one cake that didnt pin yet:

i think you should just wait a few more days if you are sure that the cake is not too dry.
you can judge the water content by the weight.


*waiting for update pics*


by then... happy shrooming.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
    #14124772 - 03/15/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Dunk for 24 hrs and back in FC! :smile:  cake that is still not pinning is GONNA...don worry! :laugh: Just give it lil more time! It can take more then 15 days to start pining!

Anyway...CONGRATS!!! :awethumb:
Gr8 job!!! :laugh:


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Perun]
    #14124997 - 03/15/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh hell thanks for info. i actually dunked the one that hasnt pinned as well as the one i harvested from. the one that was not pinning seemed a little lighter than the others. i am only going to dunk it for 5 hrs unless someone else suggest otherwise? my humidity has been at 99% all the time so moisture is all up in the bitch so suggestions????



muchas gracias amigos:rasta:


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: pcubensisms]
    #14125010 - 03/15/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Drill some holes on all 6 sides of your tub.


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Re: first grow success. question w/ *PICS* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14125057 - 03/15/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what about if i have been opening it maybe 3 or 4 times a day and it has an aquarium pump running all the time. will that suffice for the holes?


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    #14125100 - 03/15/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Believe me they will pin more and grow much better if you drill holes on all 6 sides.


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    #14125129 - 03/15/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid:

SGFC is tha shit!!! :laugh: Trust me! All 6 sides with holes,3-4 in of perlite and BOOM!!! :bigyesnod:

Lose the aquarium pump! :cheers:


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