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OfflineAn Octopus
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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: natural medicine]
    #14118656 - 03/14/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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natural medicine said:
I am on the mildest of the mild end of the autistic spectrum.  It's to the point that few people can tell that I'm anything but ordinary.  But it's there.  As a kid it was really obvious.  I was a weird kid, and would say awkward things all the time.  I've outgrown that and am ironically more mature than most people my age now.  Sometimes I still have issues thinking of stuff to say for smalltalk, not too too much though.  I'm thankful for that. 

I've never heard it described this way, but I find ASD to be similar to the effects of DXM.  DXM is dissociative, and makes people feel a bit removed from the world and more sensitive to stimuli.  In fact, the 2 times I tripped on DXM reminded me of my childhood to a rather eerie degree.  (as an adult I have no stimuli or emotional issues, in fact it is to the other extreme)

I also suspect that I have comorbid depression, of the amotivational type (not the "i wanna kill myself" type - very different).  When I feel depressed, mostly in the winter, I sleep a lot, don't socialize much, and slack on schoolwork like theres no tomorrow.  Cannabis indica and opiates(moderation here!) help that.  Unfortunately both are hard to come by - no one ever has indicas >.<  When I'm not depressed I'm very social, hardworking, brilliant to the 10th degree, and get myself absolutely ripped at the gym :grin:

As for drugs, It's hard to say.  They may be helpful.  They may be destructive.  I've learned the hard way stimulants make things worse.  Cannabis, especially indicas help a lot however.  It's also interesting that I don't build noticeable tolerance, and that I'm rather sensitive to begin with (a gram of headies last 1-2 weeks solid).  My opiate experience is limited to opium and hydrocodone, both of which I liked and have no addictive tendencies towards.  Opiates aren't just a coping mechanism for me, they literally normalize the way I act when dosed appropriately.  I would hesitate to suggest this to anyone with more pronounced ASD.  They may feel partial relief at the doses I use, and crave larger amounts because "normal" suddenly seems possible.  Or for them normal may not even be possible, and they will just use opies to cope.  Coping = the road to addiction. 

I'm very interested in shrooms.  I've read numerous reports of it being helpful to people with ASD.  I need to look into it more, as a bad trip might not be good, considering that I already have ASD so well under control.  I'm more interested in MDMA, as it gives strong feelings of empathy, something all people with ASD have in limited quantities. 

Also, stay away from video games with ASD (especially MMO's).  It's our heroin.  Seriously, I've had withdrawals.  Nasty ones.  I've got addicted to games the first day, in the first hour. After that it's all about making sure your source is secure (ie. your computer >.<)  It destroys any chance of a social life imo. 

I think I've given some insight.  I still can't imagine how bad life must be with anything close to full blown ASD.




I'm about the same, I would say. I've never been diagnosed but it's been theorized to me several times by people who know me well or who think they do. When I was younger I had great trouble saying the wrong things at the wrong time. I always had to be the center of attention and I did not understand how people perceived the things I said. When I started smoking pot around 15, this helped enormously with the social barriers, and just like you said I still have problems with BS/smalltalk sometimes but for the most part I can socialize entirely "normally."

It's interesting what you said about opiates. I had a brief (2-3 months) binge on oxycodone, hydrocodone and the like, because I felt like crushing up those little white pills and snorting them up actually somehow put me on "everyone else's level." With a few oxys in me I felt like I could relate to and socialize with others, especially my family, better than I'd ever been able to. Eventually it got to be a sort of problem; I was never really addicted or having withdrawals but I didn't know where to stop after awhile and one night I took somewhere between 20-30 hydros and nearly OD'd in my own basement :puke: ... Haven't really touched the stuff since.

Shrooms and LSD were... interesting for me. I've got to run to class now but I'll post more about those later on if the topic's still going. Good thread!


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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: An Octopus]
    #14118660 - 03/14/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

when im on high doses of lsd i feel like i have aspergers

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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: numonkei]
    #14118901 - 03/14/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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numonkei said:
So you are saying that Autism did not have any sort of spectrum when you were studying it? I wonder if Aspergers' Syndrome(sp?) might have been a diagnosis at this point associated with Autism.




Obviously there was a discussion regarding severity but it was mostly hockey helmet or no hockey helmet but still whacked way out.  I don't believe Asperger's had been invented yet.
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Bet the classes back then were a bit different then they would be today.



~Monk




Way different, I'm sure.  From my recollection autism was barely mentioned at all and I took Abnormal and Developmental.


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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14119902 - 03/14/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Abnormal

So that's where you got your posting style.:braindamage:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: Icelander]
    #14120854 - 03/14/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You're just jealous.


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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14120924 - 03/14/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

envious


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Let's talk about Autism [Re: Icelander]
    #14120998 - 03/14/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

both


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