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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14118583 - 03/14/11 09:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Uh I don't know why, but this thread reminded me of the reason my family moved from Magna to Tooele when I was 5:

The neighbor kid blew his head off with a shotgun.

I don't remember anything about it. My dad didn't tell me that was the reason we moved until right around when he divorced my mom.

Anyway, if I was going to carry a blade, I'd rather carry a short fixed-blade weapon, preferably a Japanese-style blade. I can move pretty well even with a sword, and fixed-blade weapons are a hell of a lot more durable than folding ones.

Besides, they're not illegal to carry (except in places you're not supposed to carry ANY weapon)

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14118585 - 03/14/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Synesthetic said:
(except in places you're not supposed to carry ANY weapon)




i get high too much.
i would end up accidentally bringing it somewhere :facepalm:
my BF doesnt think i should have a knife
becus i get a out of control when i take to many benzos sometimes
and i have played with kitchen knives for fun
i am told, i dont necessarily remember
that was a new thing :shrug:


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14118608 - 03/14/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

battle ready katana ftw.

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14118633 - 03/14/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Tanto, that's the short sword I'd carry on my belt. I feel fucking retarded today. Must be all the coffee I'm drinking.

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14118799 - 03/14/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

do stiletto switchblades ever come double sided, double-bladed ?


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14118854 - 03/14/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm gonna chime in and recommend foaming mace with UV dye.

IMHO it is the top self defense weapon for civilians.

It will blind your opponent, and burn all their orifices, allowing you to escape(your goal).

However the most important feature is that you will not get it on yourself. Aerosol mace IME gets on everyone/everything. One time a transit cop maced a kid in the station by my school and it affected literally every person in the station. Foaming mace shoots more like like insulation foam or shaving cream so there is no dispersal into the air.

Plus it dyes your attacker neon green/orange, so all you have to do is call the police and be like " I was attacked by this mugger so I maced him, and now he's painted bright green. Please arrest the blind green guy"


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14118857 - 03/14/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ellenallien said:
do stiletto switchblades ever come double sided, double-bladed ?



if you mean sharp on both sides, then yes. the best. those kind of blades are the best for killing.

if you mean one blade on one end, and one out the other. i have no clue.

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Heffy]
    #14118887 - 03/14/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

that is good too.. some foamy mace.

i know some one here has saw tv show were it had a ninja on there who filled a egg shell with pepper/glass/ and a bunch of nasty shit. id hate to get hit in the eye with some ground up glass!

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14119490 - 03/14/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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imachavel said:
maybe you just haven't seen the damage a gun can do to someone's life first hand, even just legally. and if you have, and still say that, you are a major fool. thing can 'sound nice' on the internet. but in reeeaaaal liiiffe it's a waaaaaay different story




I have guns, they're legal and they've not destroyed my life or anyone elses,
neither have the vast majority of the 600 million other legally owned guns
out there... seems to me your objection is strictly a moral one because you
simply dont like the idea of guns... guess what, knives, swords, stick, cars,
everything we come in contact with can be lethal, if you really wanted to,
you could kill man with a Popsicle stick

I spent 8 years in the army, I've seen first hand the devastation of
combat, I've seen the lives ruined by people, not the guns, the gun is no
more than a tool and with out them the men would still have found a way to
do what they wanted to achieve their goals





yeah, but why have a loaded cannon that you simply put minor pressure of your finger down and it goes off in your face? my friend accidentally killed his friend when he was 13, his friend had a gun, and my friend was holding the gun. his friend pulled the gun up to his head as a joke, while the thing was loaded and the safety was off, then my friend tried to pull the gun away, and since his friend was holding the gun, he couldn't pull back, and ended up pulling the trigger, and shooting him in the head. sure it was an accident, but it screwed up his whole life.


anyway, knives aren't MEANT to kill people, they are meant to cut things, people killing people with knives is their choice. but guns(unless hunting rifles) are MEANT to kill people. they have no other purpose. to me their existence is evil. protection is nice, sure. my mom had a gun when i was a kid, but she kept it hidden in her room, she didn't take it with her. and to be honest that thing hidden in her room loaded was a very dangerous thing.


sure, i play call of duty games like cod2 and cod4. i don't just play them for fun, but actually take some note of the fact that much of those games, like world war 2 and battling in the middle east, have pieces put together from actual battles, actual experiences, taken from interviews with veterans old and new. i have respect for people that have seen that shit, and don't hate the army. but one thing people rarely talk about when they speak of going to the army. they always talk about how horrible it is to watch your friend die, but never of what a horrible experience it is to have to kill someone. to watch someone bleed to death, and know it's because you did it to that person.


i just hate guns al together. i've always wanted to fire an mg42 once in my life, but that's about it. but owning a fire arm you keep with you in your car to me is just asking for trouble. after all you've seen in your 8 years in the army, don't you feel humanity could do better? how many people can you kill before you finally stop thinking your teaching people a lesson. people murdering each other is nothing brand new, it's been done since the beginning of time, how many people have died already, every decade there is a war, it never stops.


if anything guns just make it easier to control people, for police, but anything you can use to control people they can get their hands on to use on you.


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: laserpig]
    #14119522 - 03/14/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mace is effective up to 12 feet. A stun gun is effective only at knife range. That to me is a pretty goddamn significant difference.



The probes are extremely easy to register at 5-7 feet and can hit up to 9 feet. Modern models pack two ranged probe shots and then can be used like a regular prob weapon. They should just build a small burst of bear spray into it and then you're golden for might-be-lethal defense.


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: imachavel]
    #14119528 - 03/14/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you lived in a place where everyone had guns you might feel differently.  You soon realize that a lot of "less than qualified" motherfuckers walk around armed.  If you care about yourself and more importantly, any family you might need to watch over you can be much more effective at defending everyone by being armed.

Guns don't just blow up when they're sitting there lying on a table man.  If you treat a firearm like a motorcycle or explosives or anything else that has the potential to damage you you'll be fine.

Always take precaution.  That said I believe society would be safer and more kind if everyone were armed.  Crime would be near zero.  A lone gunman or a mob of killers would have much reduced chance at hurting anyone if 60-80% of the people within view were armed.

Ever played GTA or Mafia II?  Isn't it surprising and difficult when you start getting shot at by some civilian that's armed while you're in the middle of rampaging?


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14119604 - 03/14/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ellenallien said:
do stiletto switchblades ever come double sided, double-bladed ?



if you mean sharp on both sides, then yes.




oops yes i mean sharp on both sides
whats that called double edged?
i still really want one, but maybe i will just get it for indoors
and by Brass Kncuckles for outdoors.
what do you think?


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Heffy]
    #14120516 - 03/14/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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so all you have to do is call the police and be like " I was attacked by this mugger so I maced him, and now he's painted bright green. Please arrest the blind green guy"





do you know how many blind green people are running around a large city at any given time?

it's not like they can arrest them all

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: imachavel]
    #14120965 - 03/14/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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yeah, but why have a loaded cannon that you simply put minor pressure of your finger down and it goes off in your face?
my friend accidentally killed his friend when he was 13




I dont point a gun at my face, millions of people grew up in homes with
guns, just because your friends parents were too irresponsible to teach
him to handle a firearm safely it doesnt mean that the other 90% of
america that grew up around them were irresponsible, I got my first BB gun
when I was 9, my first 12ga shotgun when I was 11, I got my first rifle at
13 and my first handgun at 16 and you know the amazing thing, I never shit
any of my friends or anyone else whether they deserved it or not, I never
carried them or any other weapons to school, in fact I made a cross bow in
school for a wood shop project and made an A and no one died as a result

I learned the importance of safety, rule #1 every gun is loaded and dangerous, Rule #2 never point a gun at anything you dont intend to kill



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anyway, knives aren't MEANT to kill people, they are meant to cut things, people killing people with knives is their choice. but guns(unless hunting rifles) are MEANT to kill people.




guns are meant to kill, knives are meant to kill, swords are meant to
kill, bombs are meant to kill, cars are meant to kill..  anything can be
used to kill if someone intends to use it for that purpose, people hunt
with hand guns as well as rifles and bows and even spears, I've hunted
with a string and did so effectively, does that mean my string is meant to
kill.... well certainly and my string can in fact kill a person if I desire




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sure, i play call of duty games like cod2 and cod4. i don't just play them for fun, but actually take some note of the fact that much of those games, like world war 2 and battling in the middle east, have pieces put together from actual battles, actual experiences, taken from interviews with veterans old and new. i have respect for people that have seen that shit, and don't hate the army. but one thing people rarely talk about when they speak of going to the army. they always talk about how horrible it is to watch your friend die, but never of what a horrible experience it is to have to kill someone. to watch someone bleed to death, and know it's because you did it to that person.




lemme tell you about a horrible experience, laying in the weeds with a
bead on a man that's just gutted some poor little girl's family and having
to watch the son of a bitch  and his compadres rape her for fucking hours
and your finger is on the trigger and you want to put a bullet in the
bastard more than anything but you're told to hold your position lest you
put everyone at risk before ever seeing your objective and by the time
you're given the order to advance you realize the one that needs the
bullet is a 13yo girl that's half dead already... let me tell you about
the pleasure of using a knife to make a man bleed out because at that
point it's the only way the fucker can suffer just a little

yeah, watching your friends die is bad, watching others die is no better,
having to be the one that kills them is far worse but then there's times
when it needs to be done. there's nothing you can try and tell me about
killing that I havent already experienced but the one thing I can
certainly tall you, those motherfuckers didnt need guns to destroy the
lives of tens of thousands of innocent victims in a genocidal campaign of
ethnic cleansing and that the one constant evil I see is that of mankind,
not a piddly little tool like a gun



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but owning a fire arm you keep with you in your car to me is just asking for trouble. after all you've seen in your 8 years in the army, don't you feel humanity could do better? how many people can you kill before you finally stop thinking your teaching people a lesson.




if I have to shoot someone my intention is not to teach a lesson, my
intent is to survive what ever situation brought about my having to use
my weapon in self defense, death is a short lived lesson. 8 years in the
army taught me that my weapons are important tools for the preservation of
life and that with due diligence I'll never have to take another but at
the same time it taught me that there's some bad people out there that
will stop at nothing to push forward with their goals whether it involves
the murder of 120,000 people or the rape 30,000 women just because they're
of 'lesser value' to the aggressors

imagine seeing this 100 times over in every town you encounter in 4 nations




this is why my guns are important, because this will not be the people around me




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if anything guns just make it easier to control people, for police, but anything you can use to control people they can get their hands on to use on you.




if I surrender my guns then the criminals still have guns, it's simply
going to make it easier for them to take control, at that point, what's
stopping them from committing the atrocities I've seen? do you think the
police will be there to stop them? why havent they stopped all the
accidental shootings, the robberies, murders, rapes and other crimes?

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14120999 - 03/14/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's why even though gun bans have worked in other countries, I don't endorse them for the US. The black market presence is so strong here thanks to our draconian drug laws that we'd have some major problems if normal citizens could no longer carry them. It'd just give them something else to make money on.

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14121020 - 03/14/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what countries have gun bans worked in?

england is an island, surely they could stem the flow of guns, if so, then
why could a cabbie get a gun and kill 12 people... gun violence is rampant in
england as is violence involving knives and other weapons


yes... proof gun control works
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-02/justice/uk.england.shootings_1_crime-scenes-shooting-spree-police?_s=PM:CRIME

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14121062 - 03/14/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The only times I've ever seen a knife pulled on anyone it was always a female pulling it out. It was always a cheap ass tiny piece of crap that would probably fold back onto its self and cut your fingers.

Also every time they pulled it out the guy either punched/slapped the girl and she ended up dropping the knife and crying.

I don't know how badass you think you are but just remember when you pull out a weapon you are escalating the situation far past what it should be.


I've been around a lot of people that carry knives and even I used to carry one, I've never seen one needed to be used and if it was pulled out it was always an unneeded escalation that just ended up in someone getting hurt for no reason.


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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14121086 - 03/14/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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what countries have gun bans worked in?

england is an island, surely they could stem the flow of guns, if so, then
why could a cabbie get a gun and kill 12 people... gun violence is rampant in
england as is violence involving knives and other weapons


yes... proof gun control works
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-02/justice/uk.england.shootings_1_crime-scenes-shooting-spree-police?_s=PM:CRIME




I remember reading that gun crimes are lower per capita in Japan than in the US, but then again weapons have been banned there for a long, long time.

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14121122 - 03/14/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

while shootings are uncommon, they do happen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8345953.stm

and one of the things about japan and ther press, many homicides are
attributed to suicide, for instance, when a deranged father kills his
wife and kids, it was suicide, not murder, their violent crime rate is
very high it's just not reported as such

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Re: Switchblade / Stiletto anyone familiar with Knives? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14121720 - 03/14/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Even you said gun crimes are uncommon there. But like I said, personal weapons in Japan have been banned for centuries, so naturally their culture has adapted at least a little bit.

However, even if all the weapons in the world were to disappear, people would still use other objects to kill each other. Banning weapons does nothing to address the causes of violence, all of which can be attributed to society in one way or another.

Financial pressure is the strongest cause of violence, but since it would require changing the (actual) core of our society to even put a dent in that overwhelming pressure, people would rather look for a solution that appears to fix the problem while leaving them alone.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" has become the mantra of our society, even though our society is tearing itself apart. The masses cling to the illusion that since we live the best lives that have ever been lived, there's no way we could improve on it...

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