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mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber
    #14118841 - 03/14/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

would this be the best way to go for a newbie starting off?

my jars (6 quarts) colonized about 14 days after inoculation, and i think they are ready to go!

I'm about to go to home depot and buy vermiculite, and petco for coconut fiber..

is home depot the best place for vermiculite? also should i buy bales of coconut coir or just buy LOOse coconut fiber's?

any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i95fl]
    #14118867 - 03/14/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I like to use the garden store for VERM.  When you go to get the coir it will most likely be called eco-earth, reptile bedding.  It will say cocunut fiber somewhere on the package


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14120964 - 03/14/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks much appreciated. i'll check out the garden store instead, $20 bucks for vermiculite seems a bit on the expensive side..

any mono-tub tek's you guys recommend?


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i95fl]
    #14121134 - 03/14/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Follow one of the teks on the first page of this link or go to second page and find and follow Damion's 50/50 tek.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11533599

That would be my suggestion, and make sure the coir you get doesn't have trich as an additive.:awesomenod::mushroomgrow::thumbup:


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121205 - 03/14/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pick one, they are pretty much the same.  My only advice is to use RR's pasteurization technique.  Mushroomvideos.com has it.  RR uses horse poo in the video but you can do the same with coir.  I suggest using 5-10% gypsum in the mix too which you can find at the garden store.  For your first tub you should use a 1:2 ratio of spawn to coir.  It will colonize faster and will be less prone to contams during the process.....


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14121283 - 03/14/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Pick one, they are pretty much the same.  My only advice is to use RR's pasteurization technique.  Mushroomvideos.com has it.  RR uses horse poo in the video but you can do the same with coir.  I suggest using 5-10% gypsum in the mix too which you can find at the garden store.  For your first tub you should use a 1:2 ratio of spawn to coir.  It will colonize faster and will be less prone to contams during the process.....




5-10% gypsum to the bulk sub? I thought you just added it to the jars, how much is 10% if you use 2 quarts verm , one brick coir, and 5 quart rye jars 2/3 full?


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121368 - 03/14/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that the main purpose of adding a pinch to your grain jars is so the grains don't stick together.  Although it does provide nutrients, its unnecessary during colonizing jars.  I never do exact measurements with my tubs although I should..... Ide say use a cup or 2 for your 2 quarts verm, one brick coir....Don't quote me though, someone correct me if Im wrong..


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14121463 - 03/14/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have six jars I was just going to follow the tek my first time or four.


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121529 - 03/14/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I will just add it slowly and use 6 quarts spawn, 2 quarts verm, a brick of coir, and substitute some well seasoned Hpoo for the coffee grounds, or is it someone else's tek that uses coffee.

I am following RRs Hpoo tek now I remember, I want to do it by the proven method that can get three or four flushes. Plus I like the fertilizer part because they do too. I have to go get some lime though. and PH sticks...

I might just do the D's 50/50 my first time and test it for field capacity as I add the some distilled water and verm to it slowly and cool it off. Cooking verm will probably help heat my pc, its allot bigger than the burner. I also have another pcer I could use thats 2 gallons(8 pint)"I think", and I think it might hold the Hpoo coir tek in it. It leaks but I would just be pasteurizing so it wouldn't matter as long as I keep it in a calm place to cool? Does a brick of coir turn into more than 4 quarts? Going to go look at it...

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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121622 - 03/14/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why distilled water?  I haven't done any Poo yet.  Coir/gypsum/verm seems to be working awesome right now...and I love the fact that coir is very contam resistent....but I'm sure I will try some Hpoo soon, especially with an outdoor bed.


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14121703 - 03/14/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Coir/gypsum/verm seems to be working awesome right now...



Does the gypsum take care of any ph issues brought about by using coir? I have tons of gypsum, but no lime...


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: Ralafe]
    #14121723 - 03/14/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no, lime isn't needed with coir/verm/gypsum


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i95fl]
    #14121771 - 03/14/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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would this be the best way to go for a newbie starting off?

my jars (6 quarts) colonized about 14 days after inoculation, and i think they are ready to go!

I'm about to go to home depot and buy vermiculite, and petco for coconut fiber..

is home depot the best place for vermiculite? also should i buy bales of coconut coir or just buy LOOse coconut fiber's?

any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!



you got 6 quart jars to colonize in 14 days??????? PLEASE- PLEASE post how you did this!!!! what strain?? what TEK ?? did you incubate?? where did you get the spores??? 14 days?? 6 QUARTS????


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: jacobensis]
    #14121793 - 03/14/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was planing on RRs hPoo tek and I thought it called for lime. I will have to watch it again while I am doing it.


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121810 - 03/14/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

everythingmushrooms has coir don't they?


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121847 - 03/14/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know...but i was refering to coir/verm/gypsum


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14121912 - 03/14/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I am either doing prof pinheads poo tek or RRs except simmering for a while before dumping in the bucket and putting the coir and verm in there too. Then cool it off with distilled water from where I pasteurized.


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14121956 - 03/14/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would recommend the coir bricks from petco - very economical. One brick makes about 8qts of substrate and costs about $3.50


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14122055 - 03/14/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I am either doing prof pinheads poo tek or RRs except simmering for a while before dumping in the bucket and putting the coir and verm in there too. Then cool it off with distilled water from where I pasteurized.




why not just mix up everything to field capacity and then pasteurize using quart jars?


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Re: mono tub preparation/verm&coconut fiber [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14122196 - 03/14/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have a PC that leaks that I don't use, I was gonna get it to field capacity when it was cooled off, I guess I could do it before. But I will still gave to use the bucket because I dont think all my sub will fit in broken pc. I will do the verm in the oven when I am pasteurizing everything else.


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