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Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts
#14118810 - 03/14/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Time goes by, and as i am recovering from a very long and painful relationship, i once again feel attracted by other women around me.
I like their appearance, we talk about various subjects, and all runs smoothly... but as soon as i realize that they have no previous experience with psychedelics, i start feeling really weird.
It's like, something incredibly important is missing. My x was as obsessed as me with psychedelic experiences and i really enjoyed that. i know i am still attached to my addiction to her, but this feeling of emptiness around people with no such experiences is like no other.
I hate to be narrow minded but i just want to know if this is a very basic common thing that other psychonauts also set as a requirement for a deeper understanding in any new relationships.
I don't use any drugs right now, i don't need a drug partner, just someone who can relate to the psychedelic mayhem i have been thru.
Does this make any sense? Is it fair to exclude women with no such experiences as a possible partner? I am not quite shure about how i feel about that...would appreciate your thoughts on this..
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14118833 - 03/14/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psychedelics provide unique experiences. What you take from those experiences depends on who you are in the first place. Same goes for any other life experience.
Everyone you meet has most likely experienced a lot of things that you never have. Doesn't mean they're any bigger or smaller than you.
Edit: It is nice to be able to trip with your other though.
Edited by Sleepwalker (03/14/11 11:11 AM)
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14118939 - 03/14/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are correct. I seem to believe that psychedelics brings you closer to any other human who uses them, but in reality i could have more in common with someone that never used them before.
I just never met someone with super incredibly interesting things to share, that didn't come out of some mindblowing trippy experience.
Now that i think of it again, when i tripped with my x, we rarely had a common explanation about it after
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14119033 - 03/14/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude I hear you.The more I get into psychedelics/entheogens the more awkward I feel in "normal" social situations (I do have social anxiety btw, so this just kind of "activates" that strongly). For instance if I end up going to some big drinking frat type party where everybody has their american eagle shit and gelled hair, doing keg stands and going on and on about football I just feel weird like I'm in a barbie like plasticy world and its just very uncomfortable and I just can't wait to leave.
That same problem happens with 99% of the chicks I meet too, just like you said, it starts to go well but at a certain point its like you just can't go any deeper with them. Every time I even mention weed to those types of chicks they completely ignore me from that point on or just freak out like I'm a creep who's mentally unstable cuz I smoke pot
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
#14119211 - 03/14/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No wonder why the shipibo tribe in the Peruvian Amazon mix small droplets of Ayahuasca with their breastmilk in order to feed their infants. Maybe they fear that the youngsters might develop into some beer drinking, football thinking parrots, copying one another.
We should learn from their wise traditions and incorporate them in our stupid culture. Small amounts of acid in our feeders now! There should be riots about this.
People need to use more psychedelics and the people who already use them need to stop using them, and use what they learned out of them.
Of course i do understand that some people really don't need anything at all.But those are the few lucky ones i guess.
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
#14119335 - 03/14/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP, I think I see where you are coming from, but "psychedelic obsession" is probably a weak criteria that won't mean shit in the long run.
Personally, I find having an intelligent, open-minded girlfriend to be of far greater importance. Intelligent, open-minded people are almost unanimously turned on or at least intrigued by the psychedelic experience.
So if you meet a beautiful, intelligent female who has never done psychedelics, why not introduce her to the idea? Not on a first date necessarily, but let her know that it's something important to your being/lifestyle. Modern social psychology has shown us that a major factor in interpersonal relationship is self-expansion. When people date other people, they expand their self-concept by adopting the interests, hobbies, etc. of their partner. A girl that is genuinely interested in you, will also be genuinely interested in what's important to you.
The girl I am with had never done drugs when we started dating- besides alcohol, cigarettes, and occasionally pot. Initially, she shared the cultural fear of psychedelics and "hard" drugs.
One mushroom trip later, she was hooked.
And now I have to drive her to rehab. 
Okay, not really, but she's certainly acquired a taste for novel and pleasing mind-altering experiences.
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Society]
#14119445 - 03/14/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanx for sharing your thoughts. I'll keep an eye open for any gorgeous, intelligent, open minded, psychedelic virgin that might cross my way.
Totally agree that the important thing, is what a person already contains regarding character and not what substances are swallowed in general.
Introduced a girl in the past, in the wonderful world of shrooms and endless mdma love, so i definitely know its doable.
But it does feel like raising you kid right from the start again sometimes. which can be fun...its just frightening to me that my next relationship could be somewhat less psychedelic.....but i guess thats that damn "psychedelic obsession" you talked about....
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14119923 - 03/14/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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psychonauts are the few and compared to the status quo, fucking nuts. i've had some incredibly relevant shit go down on some acid or mushrooms, but i keep it to myself because i have a reputation to uphold. i wish it could be different but it is the way of the world ime.
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: dummy]
#14120066 - 03/14/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My girlie has always been against the use of psychedelic drugs since the day that I met her (although it wasn't brought to the light until a few months after we were dating).
It was a bit awkward at times and we often fought over it.. but I did my best to keep it on the down low while she slowly became more acceptable to it.
There was a point in our relationship where she demanded that I stop using. At first, I obliged; but not long after I realized that I was letting her control my life. I put my foot down and we are now awaiting her first trip ever (and my first experience with mushrooms). I'm very excited that she has at least seemed to become more open about this and it's something I hope that she enjoys.
Regardless of whether or not she has a good experience, I will keep on indulging myself in the wonderment.
I think it's unnecessary to crave a woman who is 'obsessed' with psychedelics. It seems, from this end, that you are attracted to the girls' attraction of psychedelic drugs rather than the girls themselves. I'd look deeper into yourself to figure out why you can't find attraction to someone that doesn't trip. Maybe you're just looking for a trip partner and aren't yet ready for another relationship?
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Cynosure]
#14120114 - 03/14/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My favorite relationships have been with drug familiar girls. I've never had one that I liked enough to trip with, but a post-coitus bowl is infinitely amazing. Sleep in till 1:00 and slide out of bed together in a sweaty slippery bliss...
But I know, next time I find a quality girl, I'm gonna split a bag of boomers and enjoy the night.
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Cynosure]
#14120233 - 03/14/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cynosure said:
I think it's unnecessary to crave a woman who is 'obsessed' with psychedelics. It seems, from this end, that you are attracted to the girls' attraction of psychedelic drugs rather than the girls themselves. I'd look deeper into yourself to figure out why you can't find attraction to someone that doesn't trip. Maybe you're just looking for a trip partner and aren't yet ready for another relationship?
i guess its the killer combination that i'm after...too many good times with trippy girls? It's just so extremely enjoyable to alter your perception within a romance... maybe i'm just too romantic...
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14123634 - 03/15/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm a psychonaut and my ex (of only like a few weeks ago) didn't do drugs. I will not be spending money on any girls who will not also do drugs with me.
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Re: Can't start relationship with non-psychonauts [Re: Joolz]
#14124635 - 03/15/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well I think if you can find someone who you get along with well enough besides that fact then go for it, but it can be difficult for both sides. generally its easier to have a deep relationship with someone if you agree on certain things like drugs. Maybe you agree one 9 out of ten things but not drugs and get along really well, maybe you agree on 1 out of ten things and that thing is drugs and so you don't get along, but somehow you have to find away to be close despite differences and its just easier to do that if you aren't polar opposites in your opinions (not in your personalities, which often works pretty well).
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