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CubensisCliff
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The Grow Log of a Noob
#14117455 - 03/14/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello! I am New to posting and growing mushrooms, but ive been on for some time reading up and doin "homework". First off, let me say that you people are the most informed and intelligent cultivators ive found on the web. So, after many hours of reading tek after tek, i decided to give this a shot. I ordered spores, the video "lets grow mushrooms", bought all my supplies and now as of tonight im off to a good start. I went with the BRF cakes,and intend on spawning them to a Horse manure substrate in a Monotub. I was unable to find the correct 1/2 pt. jars (i live in a SMALL town, im talkin mayberry) so i purchased 1/2 pt. jelly jars instead. They will work im sure, they are just skinnier and a bit taller, but still wide mouth. I followed the video exactly as far as the cake ingredients and the sterilization techniques. Used micropore tape, Steamed my jars for a bit over 90 mins actually. Made my glove box, inoculated my jars, and now im here, writing this. I will keep you all informed and up to date with posts and pics in the days to come....
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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Boheim
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some people get by ok with jelly jars,but the odd shape of the jar may make colonization a hassle....look around online for some jars while these colonize if your town isn't the best place to shop.
welcome to the shroomery as well sit here and read your mind out and all of your questions will answer themselves
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Boheim]
#14117528 - 03/14/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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out-grow.com he has some great stuff cheap too and cuts your work load significantly if your a busy tired person like me.
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CubensisCliff
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Wow! three and a half days after inoc, i have viable growth in all jars! i kept them at room temp, which varied from 67 to 77 degress. it looks like the mycelium may be bruised, is this possible? i dont beleive its a contam. i will post some pics in a few....
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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biologys
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3 days and already growth, and asking if its bruised
sounds to me like you have trich, but cant say for sure with out pictures.
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CubensisCliff
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see the black/dark purple spot? the pic quality is bad i know, i apologize, but there is white mycelium growing at each inoc point. i sure hope its not trich.
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CubensisCliff
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Well, its been a couple of more days. The black spots are still there, although not growing, and it seems like the mycelium is covering it. Maybe it could be just spots where spores built up when i inoculated the jars?
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InvaderShroom
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I'm not really sure whether its trich or not but i would separate that jar from others and keep an eye on it. if you can try to get another pic in better light. The cultivators here are pros;)
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CubensisCliff
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Here is a pic from day 6...got alot of colonization goin on. The black spots are gone. The dark spots you see in the pic are just small openings in the brf/verm. I ground my own BRF and the verm i used was of a more coarse consistency than is recomended.
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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Besides other things, coarse verm is a HORRIBLE filter....+ the wrong jars there....Still can work though, jar doesn't look bad.
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CubensisCliff
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I figured that the coarse verm would be a bad filter. as soon as i use up the verm i have in the casing layer, im going to get the finer stuff. As for jars, i ordered them online yesterday. I mustve went ten different places looking for the right ones, all to no avail. As soon as i get them, im going to start some austrailian i have. The jars are still looking good. some jars are at 50% colonization already, others are taking their sweet time....lol. I have a shelf above where mywaterheater is enclosed, and it stays usually 75-80 there all day. If it gets a bit cold, i just do dishes or jump in the shower, and it brings the temp right back to where it should be. Thanks for all the advice so far everyone.
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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CubensisCliff
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Well, its day 10.....a few jars are at about 80% i beleive....some are a bit slower.I posted an ad on craigslist last week looking for horse manure with no woodchips in it....i got like nine replies! so basically an unending supply. With manure being soo easy to obtain with a post that took about a minute to write, i can't understand why soo many people have trouble finding it. One lady even offered to deliver it to my place free of charge! Anyways, im posting a pic of one of the more colonized jars. I was thinking that if this grow goes good, perhaps it would be better if i built a martha in the near future? anyone have any advice on this? Thanks again everyone!
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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CubensisCliff
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Hello all! Well, i am at 100% colonization now. All ten jars, not a single contam ....soo far. Tommorrow i am going to mix my pf cakes into my bulk substrate....mostly shredded Horse Manure, 10- 15% verm, and 5% gypsum. Its the same recipe that i got from RR's lets grow mushrooms video. I will be doing a little different in my pasteurization technique...im going to use a turkey size oven bag, put in water and bake at 165 degrees for 60 mins from the time the internal temp reaches the same. I hope all goes well, the strain is Argentina, and after i get the monotub up and growing, im going to start some Austrailian i have. anyone have any advice for me? Here are what my jars look like.....
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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OneU

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Nice man. Best wishes on your sacred grow!
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Wizzy
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: OneU]
#14212147 - 03/30/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those jars look healthy as fuck
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CubensisCliff
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Thanks for the complements everyone. Everything ive done so far ive learned from just reading your posts. This place really is an awesome wealth of info! I just hope the rest of the grow goes as well as it has so far.
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Wizzy
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The hard parts done
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Wizzy]
#14216279 - 03/31/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is no way i could ever cook poo in my house
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CubensisCliff
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: skiddy]
#14216314 - 03/31/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol...me either. I have an old electric oven in my shed and its hooked up to 220.
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CubensisCliff
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Just a quick question....my Horse Manure was dry and leached well, not fresh at all, it was all fibers when i broke it up. when i pastuerized it, it smelled like mushroom tea.....is that normal?
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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CubensisCliff
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Just got finished with the Monotub....its a 58 qt. I mixed eight half pint BRF cakes in with my substrate, lined it with a garbage bag, wiped EVERYTHING down with alcohol (91 %). I made sure i broke the cakes up very well, and since i made my own BRF (which was a bit on the chunky side) and coarse verm, it was no problem. Cakes were colonized all the way through, and oh the lovely smell they had! just like fresh shrooms! I beleive i may have put the vent holes in the wrong spot on my tub, i hope it doesnt matter much. I left enough room between the top of my substrate and the bottom holes so that i would still have room to case the sub. I am still amazed that all ten jars were contam free....I thought for sure being my first time i was going to mess that up, but i guess i did something correctly (Thanks RR!)My substrate looks chunky in the pics, but i assure you it wasnt. I basically shredded the manure, no chunks at all. The only gypsum i could find was pelletized, so i had to dillute it with my water and was unable to mix it in dry, so maybe thats it. The moisture im pretty sure is correct, squeeze softly, a couple of drops, harder a rivulet. Ill keep you updated in the days to come....wish me luck!

-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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biologys
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everything looks great...it does look a bit chunky but my sub's look that way in pictures as well when they aren't
as for the holes, they are fine that way, next time if I were you, I'd suggest the top holes be on the short sides, instead of all holes on the long side..like this..

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CubensisCliff
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: biologys]
#14227270 - 04/02/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i imagine it would allow for better FAE. Next grow im gonna make a couple more tubs and will arrange my holes with the top hole on the short sides. thanks for the tip!
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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CubensisCliff
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Its been 24 hours after i spawned to my Horse Manure/Verm/Gypsum substrate. I decided to remove the poly-fil and use micro pore tape over the holes during colonization to limit FAE. I also sterilized eight BRF jars so that I can inoculate with the Austrailian strain i have tommorrow. Heres a pic...24 hours after spawning to bulk....
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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CubensisCliff
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Ok....Bag has been covered with a black garbage bag, i have aluminum foil laid down over the colonizing sub with holes poked in it, and temps are around 75-80 (i have one of those digital thermometers with the outdoor sensor on a wire). so far everything is going pretty good. probably wont be posting for awhile (No Peeking!) Ill update in about a week. Peace!
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OneU

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nice going man, keep us posted
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CubensisCliff
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so, i read that thread that you had recomended i read....I was always under the impression it needed darkness to colonize, not sure exactly where i read it, but somewhere. so i removed the bag, kept the tin foil and tapped FAE holes, still doin good and colonizing like crazy! I did notice that when i took the bag off, it was borderline too hot, but now its right at about 75-78 on its own, so it should be good. thanks for the input!
-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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Primal Call
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glad to help
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CubensisCliff
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OK....here we are....day 5 or 6 after monotub creation...colonization is going great! About 90% of the top is colonized with mycelium, i beleive its called "Rhizomorphic"? I will include some pics of the tub, sorry about quality, but i had to take them through the side of the tub. I also started 8 more jars of austrailian, not near as fast of a colonizer as the Argentina. Since i used the 8 jars of Arg to spawn the tub, and had two "straggler" jars left over, when they fully colonized i did the PF tek with them using a square bucket. They are just to show some decent growth, so when they fruit i will post some pics. How long do you think until i should put the tub into fruiting, roughly? I am a bit leary of overlay, even though i know i shouldnt be concerned yet. The mycelium in the tubs is actually very white, it just looks yellow in the pics due to crappy incandescent lights....


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CubensisCliff
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Sorry, according to my prior post its only day 4-5
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CubensisCliff
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Lol....couldnt help it....had to peek. I only looked long enough to take this pic....once again, incandescent lighting makin it look yellow, but its actually white. yellow spots were where water condensed and pooled a bit....no sign of contams, i am soooo happy about that

-------------------- "There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third." -Timothy Leary I have never, nor shall i attempt, to break any laws of the country for which i live or the providences therein. Every thing ive said is of course, theoretical. Check out my Traditional skills/Homesteading blog at www.rusticworldblog.wordpress.com Check out my Grow Log... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14117455
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Primal Call
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looking good. fruiting time soon!
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CubensisCliff
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WooooHoooo!....now thats what i wanted to hear!
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Very interesting log. I wish your a great harvest!
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CubensisCliff
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Thanks for the complement man! Even though im just a bare-bones beginner, ive really come to love this hobby! ALMOST more than fishing...almost. I hope this log will help other newbies out there as much as other peoples logs helped this one.
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CubensisCliff
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soooo....been reading a few posts. Im thinking that perhaps i wont case the tub. I was going to originally case with 60/40, but from what ive read its not needed, and i can just dunk the sub after the first flush. am i correct?
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Yeah..
You should try some wax paper.. Im going to try that when my tub of
coir is done colonizing.
Just crinkle it up and then flatten it back out and place over the sub
then just remove it when ever you mist and fan and place back over
when your done.. once you see the wax paper rise up off the sub an
inch or two from the pins forming then you can remove it.. and you'll want to replace the
wax paper when it gets to soggy..
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CubensisCliff
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That makes sense. all a casing really is is a neutral substance that creates the idea high humidity micro climate. Think im gonna try that. hope i wont have to mist and fan with this monotub though....thats a real pain! i got a few PF cakes going that i have to mist and fan. they are just starting to knot up, so hopefully i will have some even better pics to share soon....
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you might be able to get away with "set and forget," but likely only after you fine-tune your polyfill tightness, airflow, etc. this obviously takes some practice. even still, I know of some grower's far more experience than you or I who still mist/fan their monotubs as an added form of lovemaking.   
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I put my tub into fruiting conditions today. Removed the tape from the holes, stuffed them lightly with poly-fil, but with enough to ensure there were no gaps. misted and fanned to get humidity up and fresh air in there. Moisture is condensed pretty good on the sides of the tub, so i do not beleive i will have a problem with moisure in the substrate. im going to try the wax paper technique...sounds kinda interesting. heres a few pics of the tub right before i put into fruiting...

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Wow, what a great job on your first grow ever. I'm surprised that 8 BRF jars colonized that much sub so well. Very cool.
The only thing I'd suggest is that you are f'ing with your monotub way too much. It is a set it and forget it method in my book. Casing is completely unnecessary, as is wax paper, though I've never played with it. Fanning ans misting are completely unnecessary if you got your moisture content right in the sub. There's no reason to switch out micropore tape vs. polyfil; they both work fine.
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2nd pic looks a bit heavy on the water pooling IMO. try misting farther away from the sub or point your mister upward and let the drops float down rather than misting directly toward your sub.
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I wouldn't mist at all. I didn't get the impression you are, though.
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Mad River]
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Mad River said: I wouldn't mist at all. I didn't get the impression you are, though.
I concur. and great job by the way a good rule of thumb as far as moisture and misting go.. is obviously 'use common sense at this point', everything you set up is perfect, simply time to let nature take its course. to help let nature take its course... "when you next go to fan, with clean and washed/sterilized hands, slowly put your hand in the growbox... only fan if when you put your hand in you notice the air is very damp, musky, and warm. this is what you want as far as moisture goes, you just dont want the same moisture to sit, thus you fan. if you stick your hand in the grow bin and the air is not musky, warm, and damp... just spray the sides of the box a little until proper moisture is obtained. though honestly youve done so well s far your main goal should just be to keep that box as contam. free as possible. the proper moisture will just get the ideal fruiting conditions for large beefy fruits. keep doin the do bud."
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looks amazing! Im gonna be trying thiss soon
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Mad River]
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From what i have read, i beleived it to be set and forget also. the humidity in the tub is good, got condensation and all that. glad i lined with a garbage bag as i have a little bit of water that has drained down the sides of the tub under it, not making contact with the sub though. temps are 71 degrees. i read your log, very informative, thank you for the tips.
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Thank you for the tips and compliments. the air in the tub is nice, warm, and damp. always have a fair amount of condensation on the sides of the tub. i misted once, just after i put into fruiting initially, fanned then also. large beefy fruits, thats what im hoping for. i saw some grow logs where some monster sized shrooms had been grown off of manure, fingers crossed!
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Mad River]
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Mad River said: Fanning ans misting are completely unnecessary if you got your moisture content right in the sub.
If you ever say something this retarded again I will be forced to slap you... Giving fresh air is THE best pinning trigger. To not fan at all deprives your substrate of that advantage. Lightly mist your substrate, I'm talkin lightly, then fan the water off of it. Do this 5+ times a day and you will see pins soon. Your substrate looks fantastic, I see pros that don't get substrate that colonized.
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Microppose]
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Yeah, you should definitely fan and mist to get the most out of your tubs. Just because you can leave it there without doing a damn thing doesn't mean it's optimal.
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Microppose]
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Mad River]
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Haha, silly goose...
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: Microppose]
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lol...well, i awoke this morning to find a bunch of pins on my two brf cakes....awesome!must be fifty on ea. i beleive im going to fan/mist my tub....from what i gather it can only help. ill keep you posted....


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what a nice thing to wake up to!
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Well, the Monotub is starting to knot....thank god. i beleive its been a bit slow...temps in the 70 ish range, fanning and misting 4-5 times daily, i have a slidding glass door that gives filtered sunlight without making tub too warm or giving direct sunlight. No signs of contams yet, so thats good. I also experimented more with mist/fanning technique, as to help evaporate the bit of excessive pooling on the substrate. I only mist every other time i fan, humidity is still good, feels thicker than a hot day in florida after a rain. I hope misting every other time is cool. I also took some of my poly-fil out of the holes so that they arent stuffed so tight to allow for more FAE. The pins on the cakes are getting bigger....theres too many to count now.
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Heres a few up to date pics of the cakes....
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Nice 
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: OneU]
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I use indirect sunlight from through a sliding glass door. the little tub/bucket i have them in is white, with saran wrap on top.
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Cakes are doing great! the way it looks, they are going to fruit pretty heavy. The monotub still has no pins, but i beleive its knotting. i will post a pic tomorrow. seems like its taking awhile, but im pretty patient....now, on to the pin-porn!

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I woke up this morning, started making breakfast, put on dont fear the reaper, and checked my monotub. to my suprise, there are lil primordia ALL over it, with a few tiny pins starting already! i was soo releived. Awesome start to the morning. Cakes are growing like mad...have a bit of bruising, not sure why, they are plenty hydrated and i havent handled them much at all, and not in those spots. heres a pic...
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Did you get those spores from a sponsor? if so which one?
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Veils broke this morning on the two little jelly jar cakess. heres a pic from the harvest...not too bad for a couple of lil cakes. And a pic of the craziest looking shroom on the cakes...

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Nice job CubensisCliff. Props for a successful grow.
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: OneU]
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Thanks for the kind words! im stoked! Gonna try em out monday, theyve been fan drying since yesterday. The monotub is getting lil pins all over it, like anywhere from 5-10 per square inch! will be posting a pic of that in the comming days. I dunked the cakes for 24 hours, got them in fruiting again, gonna try to pull off of them again.
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well, i was a bit worried today. seems i have some light blue spots on my substrate....i was all like WTF? i did some reading on substrate humidity/contams/bruising, and came across the Q tip test to see if it was bruising or a contam. i gently swabbed the area, nothing came off on the Q tip. whew! i pray its not a contam. ive been misting quite regularly, 4-6 times daily. i replaced my poly fil with a tighter bunch, as i had put looser poly fil in the holes to allow for more FAE. will keep posted in the days to come. fingers crossed.
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apparently, the Q-tip test is bullshit. I haven't read about the details, but I just saw some posts from anonjon and RR talking about it a few days ago. Sorry, I can't link it; I read so much sometimes I lose track of where something is found. I'm sure some macro pics would help those well-versed in ID'ing contaminates.
In fruiting conditions, keep the polyfill as loose as possible. You want max FAE so long as you keep your humidity up. Balance!
IMO, misting 4-6 times a day is a bit much for a monotub. They are intended to be minimal maintenance. I'd say 1-3 times/day should be plenty depending on your conditions. I learned this "the hard way" with my 1st one... I misted about as often as you are and the top layer of mycelium melded together into a super dense mat. Some of the pins still pushed through, but it's my hunch that the yield suffered. Instead, look to the sides of the tub for condensation and super-fine mist on your substrate surface. If both are present, just fan more.
looking forward to your success! 
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shroomngreen89 said: take a dry qtip and rub the area and if the color dosen't transfer to the Qtip its just bruising if it does you have green mold
THE Q-TIP TEST IS NULL AND VOID!
One of these days, that stupid q-tip test that doesn't work will no longer be repeated endlessly. Bruising will rub off on a q-tip because the cotton swab will easily lift some of the mycelium.
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Sorry it has taken me soo long to respond, computer has been on the fritz lately. The bluing seems to have went away, as i am now fanning and misting less. I have a good pinset going too, i hope these turn out a bit larger than the ones i grew on the cakes. i dunked the cakes and they are pinning again. My girlfriend and i ate most of the first flush off the cakes.....Wow! great time! As far as the qtip test, i didnt see RR's post when i looked into it, so maybe next time i had better look indepth a bit more. He said that the mycelium would rub off with the qtip, so i must not have rubbed too hard because i got nothing. im just glad that the bluing is gone. i will post pics in a day or so, im on a friends comp right now, till mine gets fixed. thanks for the info Ryath.
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the "bruising" looked as if it were under the mycelium, i just found this reply to a post by RR... "Direct misting is fine. If your mister pukes out large droplets, it can bruise the mycelium. Misting isn't just for humidity. In fact, it's not for humidity at all. Humidity is supplied by the perlite. Misting is to replace lost moisture in the substrate due to evaporation. Misting also directly supplies water to the growing mushrooms.
You can easily tell bruising from mold. Bruising will be the color of the mycelium, just like a bruise on your knee is the color of the skin. Mold spores will appear as a distinct layer above the mycelium, just as a scab appears distinctly above the damaged skin on your knee. RR "
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Good thing! How goes the tub and the cakies?
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Re: The Grow Log of a Noob [Re: OneU]
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Excellent! cakes produced great, now starting their third flush. tub is just breaking veils on its first....
 ...just these three were 47.6 wet, not bad considering arg is a fairly smaller strain. the two cakes produced a half ounce dried on their first flush!
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Nice show us the pinset on the tub when it gets to it. Is this the arg?
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yeah, this is the ARG. as you can see, it colonized the jars really fast. like faster than i wouldve imagined. the jars were solid white and already mostly consolodated like a week and a half after i inoculated them. the shrooms on the scale were from the tub. i didnt take any pics of the pin set, but i will for the second flush.
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Hey, I just wanted to say hi, nice grow, and that I was just thinking about the first time I put 10 pounds of hpoo into a tub and used a 2 pound bag of WBS to colonize it. The colonization went perfectly fine, but after it was completely colonized and before it was starting to fruit I took the ENTIRE cake out by just using one hand and tipping the tub over onto my hand (the real mistake) to make sure the bottom was completely colonized, it was so strong and beautifully perfect. The humidity was so high in my tub, (yes I had holes and fanned like a mad man), that I had water droplets collecting on the side and running down the sides, since the giant cake had shrunk water collected underneath the cake. Well, the cake started to pin a little faster then expected, after only a few pins had formed they had aborted completely, and it appeared to stall for 3 weeks when I took the cake out to look at it. On the underside of the cake I found half of it had been taken over by contamination. So, I guess what I am trying to say is, watch moisture levels and check to make sure no standing water is in the bottom or collects there. Now when I do this type of grow I put a 1-2 inch layer of sterile, damp vermiculite so that any moisture can collect on the bottom, I do not need a casing layer as badly for aqua, and your cake will have a good place to draw up moisture from.
And sorry this is long and boring crap, I'm at work right now and I'm high/bored.
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