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6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! And other useful links for cheap crap to play with.
    #14116272 - 03/13/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556091806.html

And they even sell an adapter to plug it straight in the wall, no more need for windows or clear tubs, line those suckers with mirrors if you want to, all you need with this is a hole or a notch to run the strip through and some glue or RTV to attach it to the lid.

Don't know how bright they are but I imagine that they would be great for any mono or SG if you can't get a clear tub, I will get the long one for the extra $6 just in case though.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14116729 - 03/13/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting, link stored for future reference. Also nice gif.

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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: Wise Toad]
    #14116758 - 03/13/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Cool :thumbup:

I was looking around for some ideas like this. May have to buy some and see how it does.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: esquaredx]
    #14116950 - 03/13/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I bet this sucker here would be bright, it has a 220V plug on it lol, it would probably light up a paring lot. LMAO imagine that on top your washing machine plugged in 12 hours a day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-10W-Waterproof-LED-Flood-Light-Lamp-110V-220V-6500K-/180626850431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0e33027f#ht_2015wt_906


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14116972 - 03/13/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I bet this sucker here would be bright, it has a 220V plug on it lol, it would probably light up a paring lot. LMAO imagine that on top your washing machine plugged in 12 hours a day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-10W-Waterproof-LED-Flood-Light-Lamp-110V-220V-6500K-/180626850431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0e33027f#ht_2015wt_906




Bet that shit would throw off some heatttt.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14116975 - 03/13/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It is a 12 V direct current strip with 4.8 W.  Seems like the wattage maybe a little small, but you would have the benefit of having it directly in the mono, opposed to on the other side of the plastic lid. I guess you could just coil as much as needed on the inside of the lid?  That may provide sufficient lighting.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117095 - 03/13/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

These look allot brighter than the first waterproof strip but I think you would have to buy extra parts other than the power supply.

It would definitely help hide a mono if you got a solid color tub though.
http://www.environmentallights.com/products/13115/dlrf5050-60-sheath-waterproof-foot


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117111 - 03/13/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I bet this sucker here would be bright, it has a 220V plug on it lol, it would probably light up a paring lot. LMAO imagine that on top your washing machine plugged in 12 hours a day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-10W-Waterproof-LED-Flood-Light-Lamp-110V-220V-6500K-/180626850431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0e33027f#ht_2015wt_906





220v?:P thats what all our plugs in SA have.

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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117142 - 03/13/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

LEDs are a whole separate ball game.  I can't even really say if the wattage in an LED really represents the lumen output of an LED.  I don't really know if lighting in mushroom cultivation is concerned with wattage or lumens.  Those LEDs put out a shit ton of lumens for low wattage. 

:shrug:

Wattage is a unit of electricity and lumens are a measurement of light output.  I would think mushies would be concerned with lumens, and not so much wattage.  I think those lights would work fine as long as the lumen output is comparable to that of a 16-20 W 6500 K CFL.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: M11]
    #14117261 - 03/13/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Details:
Wattage-Actual (W): 1.97
Brightness: 592 lumens/meter
CRI: 66
Light Color: Daylight White
Color Temp. (°K): 6500
Number of LEDs: 78/meter
LED Spacing: 0.50 in
Minimum Cutting: 1.52 in
Length: 12.10 in
Width: 0.43 in
Height: 0.12 in
Average Lifetime: 50,000 hours
Voltage: 12 DC
Rating: ROHS

Since they are 12V you could just get a 12V charger that would supply enough amps and solder the wires to it and not buy all the expensive adapters and such. And yes I was thinking of gluing them directly to the inside of a solid color mono and lining it with foil or a reflective emergency blanket. I saw a grow on here somewhere with a similar setup just not the solid tub, the walls were clear, you would be surprised how bright a foot strip is and they put out almost no heat and are waterproof. I will look for the link to his LED grow.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117315 - 03/13/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/13199488

He had some nice looking monos from them.
I like the ones where he put the lights on the lid.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117461 - 03/14/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you had a bit of electrical engineering experience a few of these would make a solid color bin glow.
http://www.luxeonstar.com/Cool-White-6500K-20mm-Tri-Star-Rebel-660-lm-p/mr-wc120-20t.htm


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: M11]
    #14117525 - 03/14/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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LEDs are a whole separate ball game.  I can't even really say if the wattage in an LED really represents the lumen output of an LED.  I don't really know if lighting in mushroom cultivation is concerned with wattage or lumens.  Those LEDs put out a shit ton of lumens for low wattage. 

:shrug:

Wattage is a unit of electricity and lumens are a measurement of light output.  I would think mushies would be concerned with lumens, and not so much wattage.  I think those lights would work fine as long as the lumen output is comparable to that of a 16-20 W 6500 K CFL.




Look at the underlined specs to this LED it might answer your question. It all depends on the amount of amps your LED uses on how bright it is. When you add on a LED you add more amps needed and more light to get the right color temp with some LEDs, some are preset to how many amps they use so you have to run them near that to get the max life and the right lumens and color temp. Generally more lumens are better to a certain cut off point is what I heard. The closer you get a LED to the thing it is shining on the more lumens it puts out to it, You get further away they look dimmer.

Cool White Color
360 lm Lumens @ 350mA
660 lm Lumens @ 700mA
114 lm/W Lumens per Watt (1)
6500K Typical Color Temperature (1)
4500K to 10000K Color Temperature Range (1)
120° Beam Angle (3)
700 mA Recommended Max Current (4)
1000 mA Maximum Rated Drive Current
70 CRI Color Rendering Index
9.00 Vf Forward Voltage (1, 2)
14.5 C°/W Thermal Resistance (1, 5)
150° C Maximum Junction Temp
20mm x 20mm x 3.5mm Dimensions (L/W/H)
LXML-PWC1-0120 LED Part Number


1. Values based on 350mA and a Thermal Pad temperature of 25C(77F).
2. LEDs connected in series.
3. Viewing angle is the off axis angle from lamp centerline where the luminous intensity is ½ of the peak value.
4. This is the maximum operating current that we recommend for this LED. Higher drive currents are possible, but requires careful design of a suitable cooling system.
5. Typical thermal resistance from the LED Junction to the bottom of the aluminum base.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117617 - 03/14/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14117883 - 03/14/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Damn! Thanks a lot! Im currently still building my martha and was window shopping for florescent tube fixtures today to see what I can use. Although more expensive than 2 tubes with fixture, the 4 watt figure sounds awesome! Keeping the bills down is a good idea. Still dont know what to do though.... hmmmmm.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: TheIndoCloud]
    #14117958 - 03/14/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for posting this bro.  i am going to look into them tomorrow.


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14119737 - 03/14/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think I am going to bump a mono up by getting 10 of these... http://www.besthongkong.com/images/led_lamps/products/Wire_shrinks_resistors_LEDs.jpg

These could be 6500k at around 2.6 to 3 lumens a piece, depends on the size resistor you put in it. I have all the resistors but I don't feel like messing with it so I am going to buy the same ones with wires and all already together in the plug and play on second or third link.
http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=75_2&products_id=33

http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=13_15&products_id=249

http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=13_15&products_id=137

..and then drill 10 holes just big enough for the wires to fit through, hang them just a few inches over the sub and just keep raising the lights as the pins grow. Might have to take the polyfil out of a top hole to keep the heat down from that many though, lol doubt it they just might heat it up that five degrees that I need it heated up.

I will just buy 10 or 15 and see what it looks like before I drill the holes.  Might not be that many lumens and there is no 100% exactly correct formula for doing LEDs. But I think they will work if I can disinfect them and keep them from getting so close that they warm the sub.



You can kind of estimate the color temp by the nmµ but it wont ever be exact because there are too many unknown factors like the condition of LED, power source, cumulative forward voltage, air temp, back voltage and so on and so on.


Here a few good sites if you would like to know more about LEDs and how their color wavelength is measured and how it can change with current and other things.
http://led.linear1.org/leds-to-outshine-fluorescent-lamps/

http://www.electro-tech-online.com/general-electronics-chat/15038-cheap-bulk-leds.html


Like I posted earlier the color temperature can rise and fall with amperage(thats what I am going to test out with the LEDs, "Is the lumens/brightness really that important or is it the wavelength and how much of that wave length reaches the surface before its filtered, or do you really need more lumens?"  I will post pics when I get all the stuff.

The 10 3mm leds will have allot less lumens than one 23 watt CFL.
See if you can figure out about how much lumens would be in 100 of these by using the light angle and the mcd in this wizard if you are bored. I have done it a bunch because I want to get one mono with 6500k and run the other at 8,000k with allot less lumens, but lights closer to the sub.
http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=75_7&products_id=183
calculator...
http://led.linear1.org/lumen.wiz

If you estimate it you white LED needs to be in between 450-500 nm to be in the 6500k scale. Some of them don't have nm listed and it may not be correct even if you try to work the equation because of all the unknowns that you can't know for sure ever, the best way is to get the resistors right and put them parallel from a power source that can handle the amps and the hook ups, because I was reading that running them in a series will mess with them and make the weaker ones wear out faster, and then just judge the light by looking at it, it should look like a 6500k cfls light.

http://autolumination.com/colors.htm

I shut up now, I might piss someone off because I wrote a long post and get called a noob and cussed at because I made someone read a post of an idea of mine that wasted an hour of their life.
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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14120866 - 03/14/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone know if white cold cathodes would be the right color temp because these have plastic tubes to be sealed in and they are the right price. I already have power supplies... If anyone has used cold cathodes or heard of them being used please reply.

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556012009.html


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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14123833 - 03/15/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

High-output LED ribbons work great for cubensis cultivation.  I've been using them exclusively for my grows since I started in this hobby.  I put together a thread showing how I construct my LED-lit monotubs and MSG's:

LED Terrarium Tek

Just got some new strains, I plan on setting up another tub or two and will post some more pics once I get rolling.

Make sure whatever you get is the highest lumen output to wattage ratio you can find.  If you're going to invest in LED lighting for your cubes, it makes sense to invest in the best.

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Re: 6500k Waterproof LED strip at reasonable price! [Re: Ekyldog]
    #14124004 - 03/15/11 07:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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High-output LED ribbons work great for cubensis cultivation.  I've been using them exclusively for my grows since I started in this hobby.  I put together a thread showing how I construct my LED-lit monotubs and MSG's:

LED Terrarium Tek

Just got some new strains, I plan on setting up another tub or two and will post some more pics once I get rolling.

Make sure whatever you get is the highest lumen output to wattage ratio you can find.  If you're going to invest in LED lighting for your cubes, it makes sense to invest in the best.

:billymaythumbup:




Yes I have read your thread and I was planning on using 10 or 20 of these hanging from the lid just a few inches over the sub. You think it would work?
http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=75_2&products_id=33

Or maybe these

http://besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=13_15&products_id=137

I cant afford the brightest ones they are $10 a piece, or should I just go with the ribbon?


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