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Allotment or Heroic Dose?
    #14115241 - 03/13/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

SWIM has 10 tabs of acid, incised by hand, comprising approximately 650 micrograms. He or she cannot determine whether to ingest a heroic dose on a specific date or to portion the tabs gradually throughout the week.  What are your opinions on the matter?


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115332 - 03/13/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just a note on the apportionment path, tolerance to LSD builds rapidly. So, 10 tabs probably won't give you more than three solid trips in the span of a week. Of course, you'll need to take considerably larger doses each consecutive time for an equal effect.

I'm not advocating that you take a "heroic" dose either. That's ALL on you. This is just something to keep in mind if you want to trip multiple times in quick succession.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: raw-beets]
    #14115443 - 03/13/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, SWIM's priority is to reach a higher plane of nirvana/illumination not yet reached.  The initial instinct is to ingest the ten tabs to attain this goal, but maybe a different methodology would be more efficient.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115473 - 03/13/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: waves]
    #14115515 - 03/13/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, SWIM does not hold a great amount of LSD trips under his or her belt.  It should be duly noted that SWIM ingested three tabs his or her first time and handled the experience with ease. 

P.S. The setting will be a park with splendid imagery.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115528 - 03/13/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: waves]
    #14115563 - 03/13/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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TheDukeofLizards said:
10 is a lot heavier than 3.

You'd probably be best off eating them in two separate doses of 5 each. If 3 is all you have done 10 could possibly be too much.




What are the risks of taking such a dose?  And would the allotment of 5 each for different occasions be efficient for SWIM's desired goal?


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115636 - 03/13/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What are the risks of taking such a dose?  And would the allotment of 5 each for different occasions be efficient for my desired goal?




What happened to SWIM?


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115668 - 03/13/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: waves]
    #14115754 - 03/13/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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easyrider said:
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TheDukeofLizards said:
10 is a lot heavier than 3.

You'd probably be best off eating them in two separate doses of 5 each. If 3 is all you have done 10 could possibly be too much.




What are the risks of taking such a dose?  And would the allotment of 5 each for different occasions be efficient for my desired goal?




You sound like you need to do more research. The only real risk involved is that you will have an extremely uncomfortable/bad experience. There is also a strong possibility that you could do something very stupid and end up hurting yourself or in jail.

If the most you have taken is 3 hits I strongly recommend you don't eat a 10 strip. Even 3 hits of really good blotter is not really very much acid. And if you haven't sampled any of these yet, and you don't even know how good they are, that just sounds like a horrible idea.

Work your way up to the 10 strip. Try eating 5, if you are ok with that, try eating 7-8. If you can handle that then go for the 10 strip.




SWIM has researched extensively on the subject.  SWIM also believes there are no middle roads when it comes to LSD.  He or she just cannot conceive of a risk if there is a sitter present during the trip.  He or she is content with the infinite possibilities of ingesting ten tabs in order to achieve the aforementioned goal.  SWIM also finds SWIY's method unsuitable because of the extreme rarity of substance at the moment.  The ten tabs are from the same source of the original three tabs, so SWIM knows they are fine.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14115811 - 03/13/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: waves]
    #14115850 - 03/13/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This may be a naive question from someone who isn't very experienced with LSD, but is overdose possible?  I thought my head was going to explode when I took one hit...

I can't imagine taking a ton of acid.  When a person does a huge amount of acid can they even function?  Do people remember doing it or is it just a blurrrr?

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: nikoD]
    #14115882 - 03/13/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This may be a naive question from someone who isn't very experienced with LSD, but is overdose possible?  I thought my head was going to explode when I took one hit...

I can't imagine taking a ton of acid.  When a person does a huge amount of acid can they even function?  Do people remember doing it or is it just a blurrrr?

curious here.




You start running a risk at 12,000 micrograms I think, but keep in mind each blotter has about 35-100. SO you need a lot of hits before you are in any type of risk. Erowid is your best friend.:thumbup:


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: alexc]
    #14116262 - 03/13/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man I know you want to achieve your goal but you sound like you only have doe LSD once and it was only 3 hits. Which may have seemed very strong and intense but comes no were close to how much a ten strip will feel like. I would take at most 5 hits . Then see whatsups. Cant be that hard to get if you just got 3 hits and now ten from the same person.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Love2trip]
    #14116302 - 03/13/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd suggest do alittle planning.

Pick a date, pick a place, don't rush. Let all the answers come to you.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #14116726 - 03/13/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take 4 to get an idea of what's going to go on in a bigger dose. If you think you can handle 6, take the rest, if not, try 4 or 5 and give the extras to a friend (or mail them to me) :smile:


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: healing]
    #14117249 - 03/13/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ingest 10 hits if you feel up for a big change because its gonna get to the point where your so high on the acid that you're glad you got there, or you can mess around with acid a few times over the course of days.

EAT THE FUCKING STRIP!!! You know you want to. :awehigh:


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Harri]
    #14117259 - 03/13/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

be a hero.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14117316 - 03/13/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Eat the tenstrip

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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14117327 - 03/13/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, do it all at once, I say. You won't regret it.

Meditate while you're peaking... that's all I can say. :ninja:


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14117383 - 03/13/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would probably take the whole strip at once, and probably with little planning, that just what I do. I'm not advocating that you do the same.

I think taking 400-500 um then saving the rest for a rainy day or giving them to a friend so you'd have company would be a good plan. I always prefer to have at least one other person whose tripping around in case i feel inspired to share any insight i may have with another person


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: rhave]
    #14117423 - 03/14/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

SWIM is thinking of going with his/her initial thought of taking the ten at once.  The only inhibitor is the fact that LSD is scarce at the moment and not being able to get it for weeks to come.  Then again, if one reaches one's goal, there will be no need for LSD for a long time.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14117442 - 03/14/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Go for it, it's totally worth it.

But like I said... meditate on the peak. Practice ahead of time and it'll be easier.

If you meditate on the peak of a tenstrip, you will get There.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14117465 - 03/14/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

make sure your sitter reminds you to meditate... you will be VERY distracted.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14117488 - 03/14/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude calling yourself SWIM doesn't do anything.
I'd eat 5 hits at once, then wait a week, and eat the other 5


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14118772 - 03/14/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Dude calling yourself SWIM doesn't do anything.
I'd eat 5 hits at once, then wait a week, and eat the other 5




neither does reading the term and not complaining about it.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: alexc]
    #14118845 - 03/14/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking from experience, I've tripped with someone who lost his shit on a high dose of LSD.

Consider that yes, everything will turn out fine with a sitter, but it's going to be lame for your friend to have to take care of your incoherent, loud and inconsiderate self. You may scare the people in the public space by shouting about reaching nirvana, and they may report your public intoxication and hallucinations. 

Might as well stay home. Please, a public place is a bad choice for your first ten strip.

"SWIM also believes there are no middle roads when it comes to LSD."  This doesn't sound very enlightened at all. These substances are a tool yes, but they cannot force enlightenment on you and it's counter productive to try to FORCE nirvana. Psychedelics do not work that way.
You don't just take a heroic dose and end up completely centered, you have to work, and practice and focus. Every single day needs to be dedicated to understanding and balancing.

It sounds like you're looking for the easy and quick way, a magic enlightenment pill.

I do not believe that being high on LSD is synonymous with enlightenment.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14118917 - 03/14/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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[...] stay home. Please, a public place is a bad choice for your first ten strip.

These substances are a tool yes, but they cannot force enlightenment on you and it's counter productive to try to FORCE nirvana. Psychedelics do not work that way.

It sounds like you're looking for the easy and quick way, a magic enlightenment pill.

I do not believe that being high on LSD is synonymous with enlightenment.




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What are the risks of taking such a dose?  And would the allotment of 5 each for different occasions be efficient for SWIM's desired goal?




I'd say there are a lot of worst case scenarios here. Someone's mentioned mania. You could very possibly black out. There are a lot of risks.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Flowing]
    #14118949 - 03/14/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

do you have a job or go to school? just wondering because those strong acid trips can make you a feel a little bit of a "lag" so I wouldn't do it like the day before work or anything. if you aren't that experienced maybe just do 5 and leave five for next week


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Flowing]
    #14119424 - 03/14/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Speaking from experience, I've tripped with someone who lost his shit on a high dose of LSD.

Consider that yes, everything will turn out fine with a sitter, but it's going to be lame for your friend to have to take care of your incoherent, loud and inconsiderate self. You may scare the people in the public space by shouting about reaching nirvana, and they may report your public intoxication and hallucinations. 

Might as well stay home. Please, a public place is a bad choice for your first ten strip.

"SWIM also believes there are no middle roads when it comes to LSD."  This doesn't sound very enlightened at all. These substances are a tool yes, but they cannot force enlightenment on you and it's counter productive to try to FORCE nirvana. Psychedelics do not work that way.
You don't just take a heroic dose and end up completely centered, you have to work, and practice and focus. Every single day needs to be dedicated to understanding and balancing.

It sounds like you're looking for the easy and quick way, a magic enlightenment pill.

I do not believe that being high on LSD is synonymous with enlightenment.




Neither does SWIM, comrade.  One thinks LSD just provides the foreground for an enlightenment to develop.  SWIM personally believes authentic enlightenment can only occur solely with one's volition.  SWIM guesses he/she phrased the goal in a poor fashion.  One honestly just wants to reach a radical point of perception which would aid his/her overall cohesion of the human condition, thereupon providing more data to work with in laboring towards bliss/beatitude/nirvana.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14119480 - 03/14/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I took 6 hits the other night and i had a good night on them but i thought to myself i could of handled more so next time i get some acid i AM going to get a ten strip and i WILL take them all in one dose..

I don't think you have anything to lose (apart from your marbles for a few hours lol) so i would go for it if i were you... everyone knows LSD cannot kill you (within reason) so i think it would be a real eye opener to do a heroic dose...

Do it, see what you learn from it and write back a trip report.. i think it would make for an interesting read!


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: microdotty]
    #14120756 - 03/14/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd like to hear how it goes as well.  I get the feeling you're going to eat all 10.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14120777 - 03/14/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, SWIM's priority is to reach a higher plane of nirvana/illumination not yet reached.  The initial instinct is to ingest the ten tabs to attain this goal, but maybe a different methodology would be more efficient.



You're not gonna reach enlightenment by eating a bunch of acid, dude.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: learningtofly]
    #14120859 - 03/14/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

SWIM acknowledges this, sir. Look at the last post.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14121099 - 03/14/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SWIM acknowledges this, sir. Look at the last post.




SWIM is a tool :awedrugs:


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14121369 - 03/14/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SWIM acknowledges this, sir. Look at the last post.




SWIM is a tool :awedrugs:




and what are you? Seriously whats the point of calling someone a tool? Either substantially respond to the question at hand or find something better to do with your time.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: alexc]
    #14122367 - 03/14/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SWIM acknowledges this, sir. Look at the last post.




SWIM is a tool :awedrugs:




and what are you? Seriously whats the point of calling someone a tool? Either substantially respond to the question at hand or find something better to do with your time.




A lot of people on here have nothing better to do then engage in conflict to get a response, even in a place like this there are some bitches who love's them some ol'fashioned drama. what yah gonna do? :shrug:

My post is in no way referring to Anthony917, just stating users motives for being a cunt.


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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14122545 - 03/14/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SWIM acknowledges this, sir. Look at the last post.




SWIM is a tool :awedrugs:




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Re: Allotment or Heroic Dose? [Re: easyrider]
    #14123052 - 03/15/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

2/3/5 trip probably.


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    #14123128 - 03/15/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

or 3/7?


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