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a2theDawG

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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: eloC]
#14114080 - 03/13/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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its awful, smoke dank instead
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twiztidthoughts
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: a2theDawG]
#14114167 - 03/13/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you smoke it too much, you can become addicted to it. An addiction that has real withdrawals that can last anywhere from 4-7 days or longer.
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eloC
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: twiztidthoughts]
#14114337 - 03/13/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow, I'm glad someone finally posted on the addictive side effects on this stuff thank you? Even if it's not true. Thank you for bringing up the topic for discussion.
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4HO-DMT


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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: Ajaxx]
#14114403 - 03/13/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ajaxx said: i smoke fake weed everyday. im on probation so i cant smoke bud. havent came up dirty yet and i know they test for it.
i would much rather smoke some dank than fake weed, but i cant do that at the moment, so i put up with the taste and smoke the fake stuff anyway. its nice but if i smoke a lot i feel like i get a weird headache that day. i cant wait to smoke some jack again mmmmmmm....
Similar situ for me so I smoke the fake shit. I get random tests at work though, not probation. I would much rather smoke some real cannabis though.
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5-HT2A
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14114526 - 03/13/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would say it is nice to sprinkle a little bit on top of a regular MJ bowl. As for by itself, I recommend against that due to cumulative psychotic effects in my case. I think if we could find a synth that was an anti-psychotic like CBD the whole line of chemicals would be more appealing to people.
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SmokedShroom
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14114541 - 03/13/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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A 19 yr. old kid in Springfield, Missouri died from smoking so much of that fake weed shit. Its prolly not good.
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eloC
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: SmokedShroom]
#14114601 - 03/13/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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SmokedShroom said: A 19 yr. old kid in Springfield, Missouri died from smoking so much of that fake weed shit. Its prolly not good.
Wow!
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Amsu Jackal
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: eloC]
#14114834 - 03/13/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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the 19 year old had a panic attack after smoking too much of it and basically freaked out and had a self-induced heart attack. it wasnt the drug's fault.
as far as the addictive properties go, after smoking the pure chemical for a month (was high as fuck from 12am - 8am every single day for a month and a half, went through 2 grams) i ran out, and i didnt have any more of a withdrawl than i would if i ran out of weed. i would get so high i wouldnt be able to feel my legs. a cannabanoid is a cannabanoid is a cannabanoid, theres really no difference except for the difference of how active it was in the brain.
one of my friends smoked a bowl of mid grade weed, freaked out and run outside straddling a tree screaming that she needed to go to the hospital because she just smoked too much and thought something was going wrong with her as an example. the problem with the spice blends is people just smoke too much of it expecting it to be the same strength of weed or weaker and overreact when they get hit with a white widow strength high. theres no actual danger to the chemical itself, just the users that use it. i have done a huge amount of neurological and pharmalogical research on the jwh chemicals, and there is absolutely no evidence that suggests that its any more dangerous than weed, with the exception of jwh-018 mainly because its a full-channel agonist in the brain as i stated rather than a partial-channel like thc and the other jwh compounds. all of the people that had issues with it were smoking blends with jwh-018 in it.
as for the bath salts (mephedrone), yes that stuff really is dangerous. its very addictive, has a dirty high, and causes heart problems
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alexc
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: Amsu Jackal]
#14114877 - 03/13/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's pointless and it's not at all like the real thing. It makes my head feel like it just got smashed into a brick and somewhat paralyzed, not enjoyable at all. I actually just feel stupid on it. Also if people use this as an alternative for weed, I seriously think they have an issue. Half of these people say weed isn't addicting yet they start looking for alternatives the moment they have to pass a drug test? chill the fuck out, pass the test, and resume with pot. Physical or mental if you can't go without pot and start looking for alternatives, you have an issue.
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LiquidDripDrops
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: alexc]
#14114907 - 03/13/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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DON'T SMOKE THIS SHIT! THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH ON IT AND IT IS LEAVES SPRAYED WITH CHEMICALS. JUST SMOKE REAL MARIJUANA, SHOULD BE EASY ENOUGH TO FIND. I ALSO HEAR THAT SPICE IS AROUND THE SAME PRICE AS MARIJUANA. TO ME ITS A NO BRAINER WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE. THIS SHIT IS NOT NATURAL AND THEREFOR POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS COULD BE 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. MARIJUANA HAS PROVEN OVER THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF USE TO BE EXTREMELY SAFE, WHY FUCK WITH A GOOD THING. HOPE YALL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BY NOT SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS CHEMICAL SHIT.
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tospace


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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: LiquidDripDrops]
#14114949 - 03/13/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If what all these trip reports are saying is true, that its very similar to real weed then I think a combo of jwh 018 and 073 or some jwh-250 would be nice to have. The price seems pretty good for what you get. Like you could spend $100-140 on sythetic stuff to last you a year or you could spend $1000+ on weed in a year. Some of the older better ones have been around for a while it seems like and no one dieing so far.
I would do it at least until I can get a grow setup running of course. I hate buying weed. It waste my money and is just a sad habit that I would get.
RCS-8 sucks btw. Almost completely inactive. Shoulda gotten a more tested one like 018, 073, or 250 but it was onsale.
Also spice seems like a ripoff for people that don't even know about synthetics. You could smoke a bowl from your 40$ 3 grams of spice or vape 5mg of your 40$ pure gram
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a2theDawG

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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: alexc]
#14114991 - 03/13/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHOS MUSCLES FEEL REALY SORE/ACHEY AFTER SMOKING THIS AWFUL SHIT
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tospace


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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard [Re: a2theDawG]
#14115008 - 03/13/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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a2theDawG said: AM I THE ONLY ONE WHOS MUSCLES FEEL REALY SORE/ACHEY AFTER SMOKING THIS AWFUL SHIT
weird. What kind was it?
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eloC
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: Amsu Jackal]
#14115591 - 03/13/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amsu Jackal said: the 19 year old had a panic attack after smoking too much of it and basically freaked out and had a self-induced heart attack. it wasnt the drug's fault.
Yeah I figured it was something like that. But this is the first researched based thing, I've done on this stuff. But sounds like to me JWH-018 is the best. But most expensive. Or any sorts of JWH compounds are going to be expensive but most effective. And the stuff being sold as "spice"/K2 is the cheapest, and most dangerous for the fact of being un-researched. I have always had heart problems, and I take ADHD medication. My psychetrist is very nervous about the fact I take stimulants, and I get medical MJ. So I won't be smoking any of this. Hahaha! My mom spent about 10$ and got about 2 grams of K2. Kind of expensive? When I was 16 I could spend 10$ and get 5 grams of Kronik. Hmm.. But thank for all of your responses!
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Love2trip


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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: eloC]
#14116193 - 03/13/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spice is a teenager drug if you can get mary Jane then don't waste your time and money on this shit. Seems dangerous to your health
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evenbreak
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: Love2trip]
#14116669 - 03/13/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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why are all you morons hating on jwh
its a fine drug. its also like 30 times cheaper than weed
also 3/4th of the high is your mindset so if you smoke jwh thinking its gonna be shit, then its gonna be shit because of that mentality.
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muistrue
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: evenbreak]
#14116696 - 03/13/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree, cannabinoid receptor agonists are good drugs I just don't care for all the spice alike bullshit.
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evenbreak
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: muistrue]
#14116727 - 03/13/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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spice and jwh are teh same chemicals..
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: evenbreak]
#14116757 - 03/13/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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evenbreak said: spice and jwh are teh same chemicals..
Spice is not a chemical it's a brand name for a smoking blend of herbs infused with jdub.
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evenbreak
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Re: What are your guys' views on the synthetic marijuana, they call spice or have you never heard of it? [Re: muistrue]
#14116835 - 03/13/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i know that. it doesn't make sense to say you like jwh but spice is bullshit because spice is just herbs with jwh on it.
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