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InvisibleDaft Punk
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First Bulk Grow Advice
    #14112654 - 03/13/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey everyone. I used to be around here a bunch and just recently came back after around 2 years of doing other things. 2 years ago I had several successful brf cakes as well as experimenting using popcorn as a grain (easily available and simple). I have decided to return to mycology as well as shroomery :thumbup: Just wanted to say Hey to everyone as well as run my plan past you guys.

I have experience with casing grain but never tried using any substrate such as straw before. Unfortunately I never saved any equipment or cultures :frown: but it is exciting because i get to start all over again!

My plan is to get a print and use agar to isolate some solid looking growth and then transfer that to quart jars with rye berries. I want to then try out Shroomgod's straw tek but have also been considering using coir (with nutritional additives) as i have seen good results. Coir seems to suck up a TON of water and since mushrooms are for the most part water it seems like a feasible idea. I am not sure what to do for casing but i plan on doing this in a single large tub. For FAE i am considering the use of a humidifier and some holes in the tub with poly-fill, but i have never used this before.

I am just hoping to hear from a few people and get some feedback. You guys have taught me almost everything i know today. The other thing that has taught me a lot is making a lot of mistakes and some terrible contamination :sad: I intend to put up a grow log once this gets started because i have always loved reading over grow logs and never made one myself.

Thanks everyone!

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: Daft Punk]
    #14112682 - 03/13/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you can do a mixture of coir and straw if you want, but if your first time doing bulk i'd stick with coir and verm...since its alot easier and you dont have to do a real pasteurization of it

also you dont need a casing layer for cubes, its just adding an extra step that could contam your grow, so i'd leave it off, simple is better for your first attempt...

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: biologys]
    #14112710 - 03/13/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

how large of an effect does a casing layer have on yield and potency? I always thought that the more moisture you could have in there the higher the yield would be and casing also has nutritional value which would add to the potency. I know i still have lots to learn though so it is awesome to get feedback. any suggestions of how to keep humidity and fae up for pinning? is there a risk of it drying out quicker without casing?

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: Daft Punk]
    #14112737 - 03/13/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

As far as i know a casing layer is non-nutritional and is only used to retain humidity on top of the substrate. I also know that a casing layer is unnecessary with cubes and does not effect potency and if you need the extra humidity boost you can use a piece of wax paper instead.

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: Bom_Tombadil]
    #14112765 - 03/13/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid:



a casing is a non nutritional layer to help retain moisture and keep humidity up, if you have a problem keeping the humidity up then yeah add one, but i'd say you'll do fine with a normal monotub.

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: biologys]
    #14112811 - 03/13/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ok awesome. This is actually going to turn out to be easier than i was trying to make it! :grin:

after doing a little bit of reading based on these coupe of posts i think i am going to drop the staw and go with damion5050's coir tek. it looks pretty solid and easy to work with. also i am planning on soaking my rye in gypsum which i wasnt going to do before.

i came across an interesting argument though which has raised some more questions. I saw that many people were claiming that "a cube is a cube" while some were stating otherwise. there seems to be a lot of confusion with the words strains and species and subspecies. could anyone possibly clarify that for me? I have personally only bought spores 1 time before. I went with B+ and did g2g transfers and cloning. This is the first time in a while that i have been faced with the decision of what "strain" i want to use.

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Re: First Bulk Grow Advice [Re: Daft Punk]
    #14112818 - 03/13/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

they are all basicly the same, with a very few exception...Penis Envy is known to be a bit more potent, but its also known fo rtaking a bit longer to colonize and fruit, as well its known for giving mutant blobs on the first flush...

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