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deCypher



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Re: "Jesus is the answer." [Re: andrewss]
#14112611 - 03/13/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That movie actually has a pretty badass soundtrack IMO.
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Icelander
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Re: "Jesus is the answer." [Re: andrewss]
#14113373 - 03/13/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw that stage play back in the 70s. Me an my stoner friends would all take a part off the album which we knew by heart and change the words to totally irreverent stoner shit and get stoned and sing the album. It was a total blast.
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FishOilTheKid
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Re: [Re: Poid]
#14113493 - 03/13/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What about that? How does the ingestion of the Eucharist imply that the entheogen theory of religion is supported by many Christians?
Its a ritualized enactment of the ingestion of the Savior concept to attain Gnosis. Except admittedly they are using something in place of 'real' flesh. ...Transubstantiation and so on.
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How would that make my life better, though, especially if I don't give too much of a rat's ass about Christianity, or any other religion for that matter?
I don't think the thrill is in giving a shit. I think the comprehension of the esoteric concepts and the realization of the mythology coupled with the mystic-altered state occasion within your lifetime is where the excitement is. Leap of faith scientific experimentation/exploration. Its magic come alive. When you don't give a shit and you are in that territory you quickly realize the validity of at least 'kind of' giving a shit... Its very interesting.
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How'd you know that? Shit, you really are psychic! 
Don't be surprised if something taps on your shoulder and fills you with energy. Then, you will feel a stab and see flashes of white light.
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Then why do you believe that Jesus gave them pieces of his body to eat?
Because Jesus saying something like... 'Take eat this is my flesh, drink this is my blood' is something memorable to me about the Jesus story.
And I never said that he gave them pieces of his body... Eating and drinking the flesh and blood of Jesus is the mystery of Christianity in a world that claims Christianity has no such secret. Jesus says himself what he is. He says he is the Bread/Manna. He says eat.
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As they were eating, Jesus took some bread and blessed it. Then he broke it in pieces and gave it to the disciples, saying, "Take this and eat it, for this is my body." http://nlt.scripturetext.com/matthew/26.htm
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I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." http://bible.cc/john/6-35.htm
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Yes it does:
...there lay a small round thing...This is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat.
To me that reads that he was just explaining. And, this is Moses not Jesus.
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...like Odysseus in Homer's Odyssey.
Right, but rather than taken literally these epic journeys can be seen as psychological manifestations within the collective or individual psyche. Like complete metaphors for mental ongoings that may or may not have been inspired or had as some component a ritual ingestion of potion/elixir/blood/sacred food. The hero's journey parallels the psychedelic awakening experience very closely.
Dare I say CHRIST...?!
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I don't see from that passage any reason to believe that the manna was anything other than bread; these people had been journeying for years and they were starving, so why would you interpret the manna to be anything other than food? 
You would have to set off in that direction first. Why?? Because you may have been clued into the idea... I don't know you would have to find it of some import. Grasping concepts and discovery whatever your faith may be is exciting, no??
The story actually goes...
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And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?
8And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the LORD heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we? your murmurings are not against us, but against the LORD.
9And Moses spake unto Aaron, Say unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, Come near before the LORD: for he hath heard your murmurings. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+16&version=KJV
Moses was subjecting his followers to a psychedelic judgment by his entheogen induced Godhead experience.
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So you want culture to evolve into a place where everybody constantly doses on mushrooms?
Haha... No.
What I want is the mass recognition of the sacred psychedelic substances places in history and within our lives.
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Very detailed. 
*You know the problem with a person kind of being a prick some of the time is that you don't know when they are being sarcastic*
Edited by FishOilTheKid (03/14/11 09:31 AM)
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