Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   North Spore Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
InvisibleM11
White Thumb

Registered: 06/14/09
Posts: 1,840
Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches
    #14112567 - 03/13/11 12:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey folks,

Spring is here.  I am looking into my summer plans and I like many others have some questions.  I would like to try some isolates from agar in an outdoor grow setting. 

When sectoring on agar plates what sorts of "strains" would you want to select for an outdoor grow -the most rhizomorphic and hyphal? Which sorts of "strains" would be best suited for an outdoor setting -would they be same strains selected for an indoor environment?  Temperatures would fluctuate from 60-85F during the period I was planning.  I will be doing the sort of outdoor grow as represented in the link found in my signature.

Here is a picture from last years patch.  I had a fair amount of success.



I will be using fully colonized/consolidated trays which will be buried slightly in the earth, cased in 50/50 peat/verm (with hydrated lime), and covered with grass clippings.  They will be watered once to twice daily. 

Would I need to pasteurize the 50/50 peat/verm (with hydrated lime) casing if will be used directly outdoors?  I figure I want to try the casing, because it will help provide moisture for the tray.  Maybe I shouldn't use this sort of casing, but I think it will provide more of a moisture buffer than exclusively plain grass clippings. 

I want to try a 1:1 spawn to substrate ratio in my trays.  Would this be advisable for an outdoor tray?  Would I want more substrate to provide more moisture, especially in an outdoor environment?

I think I want to try simply coir, verm and gypsum for my tray substrate for reasons regarding contaminant susceptibility and ease of pasteurization with the boiling water method.  Should I consider adding high nutrient amendments (earth worm casings, etc.) given that contamination will only be an issue during colonization, not during fruiting? 

I know a lot of these are specific questions that many won't have an answer to.  In fact, some of these may only be answered through personal experience. 

Thanks for your help.

M


--------------------
Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
-RR

Outdoor Patch


Edited by M11 (03/13/11 12:44 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleM11
White Thumb

Registered: 06/14/09
Posts: 1,840
Re: Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches [Re: M11]
    #14113847 - 03/13/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bumpity bump.


--------------------
Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
-RR

Outdoor Patch


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinek00laid
NEMO
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 19,636
Last seen: 6 months, 5 days
Re: Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches [Re: M11]
    #14113931 - 03/13/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

choose the strain out of your agar dish that you know will fruit best in ~80 degree weather.

also choose some mycelium that looks like it has a higher tolerance for less humidity.








lol.....


--------------------
AMU - AMU Q & A - MyVideo Teks!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleM11
White Thumb

Registered: 06/14/09
Posts: 1,840
Re: Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches [Re: k00laid]
    #14113958 - 03/13/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why can't cubes just speak and let me know their needs?


--------------------
Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
-RR

Outdoor Patch


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinek00laid
NEMO
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 19,636
Last seen: 6 months, 5 days
Re: Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches [Re: M11]
    #14113962 - 03/13/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

their need is dung.

they aren't picky.


--------------------
AMU - AMU Q & A - MyVideo Teks!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleM11
White Thumb


Registered: 06/14/09
Posts: 1,840
Re: Questions: Isolates and Outdoor Patches [Re: k00laid]
    #14116161 - 03/13/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Would it be best to go with MS for outdoors?  Would selecting and transferring a few fast growing rhizomorphic sectors be advisable for outdoor? 

I would think that MS would provide a greater genetic diversity, which may be a good thing considering the variable conditions outdoors.  I could then attempt cloning from those fruits that successfully grew outdoors.  Would an isolate be a larger gamble for an outdoor grow?  I don't want to isolate a strain of non-fruiting mycellium.


--------------------
Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
-RR

Outdoor Patch


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   North Spore Bulk Substrate   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Suggestions and Questions on Outdoor Cult. billster84 2,906 7 03/11/10 02:25 PM
by New Light
* outdoor patch question gdman 2,093 15 06/17/03 05:46 PM
by gdman
* A question concerning the Flushes of my outdoor patch... Cracka_X 1,295 11 07/17/03 04:13 PM
by neutralizer
* outdoor patch question jba6511 900 7 05/21/03 08:40 PM
by jba6511
* Outdoor Patch Advice ChiefThunderbong 804 1 01/01/03 10:32 PM
by Anno
* Outdoor patches with contaminated cakes? OmegaRed 2,378 14 05/21/03 06:54 PM
by jehst
* Another outdoor patch question Cubiegrl 708 2 06/17/03 03:37 PM
by Cubiegrl
* My motherfucking outdoor patch sucks fucking ass.
( 1 2 all )
Cracka_X 6,901 22 07/29/03 07:19 PM
by charvo

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
584 topic views. 31 members, 258 guests and 38 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.023 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 14 queries.