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Forgot the foil
    #14110554 - 03/12/11 06:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Sitting here waiting 4 Pc to cool & relized I forgot to put the foil on.
1 qrt rye & the rest BRF/WBSF. Will the tyvek keep the water out, or should I just start over.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110587 - 03/12/11 06:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

We will soon find out!

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110589 - 03/12/11 06:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110590 - 03/12/11 06:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Nope. You'll know for sure in a few minutes but you'll have to start over I'm betting. Sorry. :frown:


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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: Dr.Boomstik]
    #14110598 - 03/12/11 06:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The purpose of the foil is to keep steam from dripping down from the top of the pressure cooker, and dripping on top of the jars.

With that being said you will have some wet jars when you open that thing up bro,

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14110653 - 03/12/11 07:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Try taking the jars out as soon as the PC de-pressurizes, helps evap the excess water. (might crack glass jars, I use plastic)


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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14110663 - 03/12/11 07:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks, Kind of thought that, but never used Tyvek B4. I think I took a double dose of dumb ass pills today. Maybe I'll make a checklist from now on, but I'll probably forget where I put it.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110683 - 03/12/11 07:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

PC is still warm to touch, so I'll wait a little while. Would rather replace sub than jars.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110685 - 03/12/11 07:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

:jah: we all do it sometimes.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110836 - 03/12/11 07:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

there's a picture floating around with water pooled sitting on top of 1 sheet of tyvek... I think it was Doc_T that posted it, but I can't find it right now... he let it sit for hours and none of it went through. this does not necessarily speak for water vapor though...

anyway, I've forgot my foil at least 2 times and all the jars turned out fine on moisture and colonization. assuredly, it's not something to make a habit of, but you can get away with it. just be sure to be very clean in your inoc area and maybe even rubbing alcohol wipe the tyvek prior to inoc. also, be sure to cover your inoculation point as fast as possible after injecting if you're not using self-sealing ports.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14110871 - 03/12/11 07:38 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Got jars out of Pc & all looks good. the Tyvek has a few spots that definitly wet. So I think that I will alow to dry overnight & add an extra layer of tyvek when I knock up.
By the way I do a lot of canning & pull the jars out of a hot water bath & have never had a jar break on me. It must have something to do with the presure, as when I went to open the PC, I actually had a vacumm & not presure.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110894 - 03/12/11 07:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Under normal circumstances where you had foiled them you should never open the PC. It fucks the grains up.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14110954 - 03/12/11 07:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Normally I would have left them in the PC til mornin. But one fuck up leads to another. PC cooled to warm to touch, plus releived all presure. Thought a little heatin the jars would help dry things out, but to my surprise, everything looks fine except for a few wet spots on the Tyvek. The grains are nice & loose. I did soak over night & boil for 10 min. The BRF/WBSF looks actually a little dry. I am going to knock up the grain, not sure about the cakes. I'll sleep on it.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14110986 - 03/12/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I sure they will be fine.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14111039 - 03/12/11 08:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Thnx alot Professor. They cooled & I stuck them back into the PC for someplace to sit overnight. Gonna give them a shot in the morning.
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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14111092 - 03/12/11 08:17 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, its all good man we all have that kind of shit happen while we are learning.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14111297 - 03/12/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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ProfessorPinHead said:
Nah, its all good man we all have that kind of shit happen while we are learning.




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So I think that I will alow to dry overnight & add an extra layer of tyvek when I knock up.





don't bother with this IMO. if the tyvek wasn't in place during PC, adding it to the jar after removing from the sterile environment is probably encouraging more contams not deterring them.


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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: Primal Call]
    #14111438 - 03/12/11 09:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Gotchya, makes sense, no added Tyvek. It all looks good will sleep on it & knock up what I think is ok in morning.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: mabachko]
    #14111601 - 03/12/11 09:40 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It happened to me too, but I used polyfill instead of tyvek, and everything was perfectly OK when I finally got to open the PC.

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Re: Forgot the foil [Re: Vibration]
    #14111674 - 03/12/11 09:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

A drop of alcohol on wet tyvek usually does the trick.

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