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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110472 - 03/12/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think I'm justified in feeling that someone who comes in and wastes my time and money is a tool. 

Trust me, I didn't design the system that's in place where not tipping is considered rude, I'd much rather it be like in Europe where you only tip when the service went above and beyond, but it is what is.

You have every right not to tip, and I have every right to think you a douche for not doing so.  :cheers:


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dank_Trichome]
    #14110512 - 03/12/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No ones wasting your time or money its your job to serve people, tips are a perk not a expectation. Then again I live in Canada and we arnt socially pressured to have to support needy broke ass students habits with tips.

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110550 - 03/12/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh you are in Canada, maybe it is different up there and waiters are paid a decent hourly...

Yeah stupid me for having to pay for classes, books, and food.  Should have thought of that before I was born


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110605 - 03/12/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
All they do is write the order down run it to the chef and bring it out to you. Thats it, and you demand a tip as common courtesy? :facepalm:





if you want that sort of service you're obviously looking for McDonalds, a
good waitron unit does far more than deliver orders to the kitchen, I myself
always checked the stock to see what's not preentable and steered people
away, for instance if I didnt make the chili we served I tasted what was
there, if it looked or tasted unappealing then I'd make some and advise
people to avoid it until it was done, we'd sell 2-3 pots per day when I
cooked it, if I didnt, it could sit a few days. We suggest various things
to avoid but more importantly we recommend things that we feel the
customer may enjoy and as long as you're not eating at some place like
applebee's then you should be receiving tips on the freshest and tastiest
foods the establishment has to offer


a waitron unit has a duty to his customers to keep them happy, part o that
is to ensure that all the food is maintained at the highest level of
quality, you have the first level which is your cooks, many dont give a
shit and have no pride in their work, they'll send the food to the pass,
the pass is the next level of quality control, usually it's someone that's
served as a cook and does take some pride in their job, if it passes their
inspection then it's usually fine but even they can fuck up so it's then
up to the waitron unit to ensure that the food is what the customer
ordered and that it's prepared properly and looks appealing, once it's on
the plate it's up to the customer to let us know if the food is suitable
for them and to correct any issues that they may have

the duties dont end there, from there we are responsible for cleaning up
the mess left by the patrons, a great server will pre bus the tables, no
one likes to have a conversation over an after dinner coffee or desert
while looking at a pile of dirty dishes, after you leave I thne have to
clean up your mess and that of your kids, the same kids you didnt keep
control of, the ones that threw food under the table, smeared it on the
wall or the seat and prepare the table for the next customer, now not only
do I have to do this with you and your guests, I have several other tables
that I have to handle, so now I have to make sure that each order it
placed in a timely manner and delivered to the right tables

and even still my duties dont end there, after all the customers have left
I have to sweep, mop, vacuum, stock stations and tables, audit my tickets
and let my kitchen staff know what my sales were like as well as how the
standards were kept and about the customer's satisfaction

I've never failed to be a top earner in any food service establishment
I've worked in because I've always know what I want in customer service
and I've never failed to deliver that service to my customers, I even
worked at a chain of diners that bounced me from location to location in
order to build sales and promote my brand of service and dedication to
quality, I've trained the front and the back of the house and I'm the one
waiter that never had an issue with getting in a cook's face or getting my
ass in the kitchen after closing and helping those fuckers go home before
2am, in a 10 hour day, 7 of those hours are tipped hours, the rest of
those are were at $3.25, a buck an hour over the other servers and that
check for $100 at the end of the week, that goes to taxes on my tips

now I understand that canadians and most of the world arent paid like the
wait staff in the US, that you guys get a standard hourly wage so tipping
really isnt necessary but in the US, the livelihood of a person in food
service is often dependent on tips

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dank_Trichome]
    #14110617 - 03/12/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It was a nice summer evening thunderstorm and we were out digging the lightning and the lovely evening. Eventually it was decided that some late night food was needed and shari's being one of the only restaurant choices was our prey. We had been indulging often of some sugar cubes that rolled into town. And my friend had just gotten an inheritance check not too long ago. He also has an all or nothing attitude with drugs that I am sure all of you have dealt with a person like that but it adds a bit to the story. Anyways, everybody was twisted to say the least.

So upon being seated at this restaurant is when this all begins. There's a couple off-duties in and my fried lets call him J. makes a little small talk with em. I can't really remember and it's not relevant so whatever heh. So the waitress brings the water and he proceeds to spill it all over the table. he then proceeds to empty the napkin dispenser and covers the table with them making a huge soppy wet napkin mess. Eventually thats cleaned up and placed in a cup overflowing with napkins. The waitress comes to take our order and commences to order something like this.

"uhhh ummm, Can i like get some fuckin' french toast, and uhhh some eggs?"

"how many eggs would you like?"

"uhhh, 2...3... no 4 fuckin' eggs scrambled and a berry pie." (nobody noticed the pie til after..)

anyways the food was eaten without any stir ups til it came time to pay. he recieved the bill and proceeded to pull out this huge wad of cash probably around 500-600 dollars and starts trying to count some money out for the waitress.

while he's waving this huge wad of cash around in the air like an idiot he decides to ask the waitress if "there's like anyway she could like hook us up with some free food y'know?"

after that's taken care of and he recieved his pie on the way home he was sitting in the back just demolishing this pie with both hands shoveling it into his face and trying to share it with everyone else.

needless to say the lulz were had and it was a good night :laugh:


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dank_Trichome]
    #14110627 - 03/12/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have to pay for all that shit too. but i am not going to belittle somebody in the process because they don't tip.  sorry your a waiter dude and the system doesn't always weigh in your favor.  but you don't know me and to call me a tool for not tipping makes me think your completely ignorant.

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dank_Trichome]
    #14110635 - 03/12/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Dank_Trichome said:
Do you guys eat at waffle house and dennys every time you go out or something?





dont be busting on waffle house jack... many of the best cooks and servers
I've worked with worked for waffle house, I did 7 years with them and in
addition to building sales from $300/night to $800 per night on week nights
to $2300 on weekend nights, we also never scored under a 98 on any health
inspection at any store I worked in

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: blood4blood]
    #14110667 - 03/12/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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blood4blood said:
i have to pay for all that shit too. but i am not going to belittle somebody in the process because they don't tip.  sorry your a waiter dude and the system doesn't always weigh in your favor.  but you don't know me and to call me a tool for not tipping makes me think your completely ignorant.





you're instead going to belittle them because they work primarily for tips and you'd rather be cheap


great work

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14110671 - 03/12/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Me and my girl live up north, but were down in Florida visiting my grandparents last month.

We went into Waffle House one morning, cause it's right across the street from their condo and I get a jonesing for it, never being able to have it.

So we all sit down and the waitress asks my GF and my grandma if they are related, 'cause they have the same green eyes.

My girlfriend is black as night and my Gramma is an old white woman with freckles.

:rofl:

We were all like, "....."

Hashbrowns all the way though, for realz.


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14110682 - 03/12/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lol I fucking love waffle house, I was just using that as an example of a place where I'm not expecting a lot of detailed service.

blood4blood

You don't know me either and if you are this upset over my thinking you a douche I think you have some bigger issues to work out than learning how to tip.

Anyway, I've got some friends in town so I'm off to dinner. hmmm to tip or not to tip?


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: blood4blood]
    #14110722 - 03/12/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14110732 - 03/12/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You make $3.25 for being a server in the states? :nonono: Thats pathetic. BTW nice attempt at trying to make being a server sound as difficult as possible :lolsy:

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
    #14110760 - 03/12/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110762 - 03/12/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's about what my old roommate used to make as a delivery driver too.

But on weekends he pulled in like 15 bucks an hour, w/ tips.


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
    #14110775 - 03/12/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Anthony917 said:
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blood4blood said:
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Dank_Trichome said:
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blood4blood said:
i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping.  why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?

ever tip anybody at a fast food joint?  they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.




Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU. :shakefist: 

If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.





wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money:rolleyes:

trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere.  I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips.  but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?

and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent!  quite crying already or find a new job.




I'm sure people have already chewed you out for this in the 7 pages of this thread, but I have to speak my mind here...

You're a douchebag! You obviously don't work in the industry, so you have no idea what it's like. Servers make their living off tips. They usually get paid minimum wage + tips.
If you ever came into my restaurant and didn't tip one of the servers, the next time we saw you in there you would get horrible service and you'd likely get your food fucked with.

What goes around comes around, and if you feel too high and mighty to leave a few dollars for the people who SERVED YOU, then fuck you buddy.

On topic: I usually tip 20% (pre-tax total), although I'll tip more if the service is great, and less if it's shitty. I make my money off tips so I know how it feels to get shafted




What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #14110802 - 03/12/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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So we all sit down and the waitress asks my GF and my grandma if they are related, 'cause they have the same green eyes.

My girlfriend is black as night and my Gramma is an old white woman with freckles.




lol... you know what's funny, I'm not an emotional guy but I had a couple
come in one day and they made me cry, it was a balck man and a white
woman, early 20s with a kid, they sat down and I got their order, and
instead of calling the cook from what ever he was doing I took care of it,
I was a better cook anyway, I served them their food, checked up on them
and when I went to deliver their check and tidy up the table the woman was
in tears

I asked her if I'd done something wrong and she said it was just the
opposite, that I was the first person in any restaurant that ever treated
them like people, that everywhere they went, regardless of the state,
people looked down on her for being married to a black man, the reason she
was crying is because she didnt feel she had enough money to leave me a
suitable tip for the service I provided. I told her that the tip wasnt
important and that the fact that they were satisfied with the food and
service was enough

I grew up in the south but racism wasnt something I was taught, I'd seen
it and even experienced it but for some reason what that girl said  almost
sent me over the edge, the tears came when her husband hugged me before
they left... I've seen horrible things done to people in years prior and
what they said brought all of it out... it's the first time I had felt
like my time in service was really for the good of the people I was there
to help... not in waffle house but the army

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110825 - 03/12/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.





Say you go out to eat, your total bill is $50, is it really that hard to leave even $5?! I know $5 is only 10% but at least it's something. Where is your logic in this? If you didn't want to tip the server $5, you could walk to the kitchen and tell the cook what you want, then sit and wait for it to pop up in the window and carry it all to your table. Then every time you wanted another glass of soda or water you would have to get up and go get it. Then you can clear your own table too. I'm sorry but I'll pay $10 for this service and 99% of other people would too.

It is a very asshole move not to tip.


edit: btw pris that was an undeserved warning  :oldman2:


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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110829 - 03/12/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You make $3.25 for being a server in the states? :nonono: Thats pathetic. BTW nice attempt at trying to make being a server sound as difficult as possible :lolsy:





well it's not like canada, we arent all on the government dole down here, we
dont have the luxury of doing nothing and still collecting a check, we
actually have to work and believe it or not, being a server is a difficult job

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110846 - 03/12/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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blood4blood said:
Quote:

Dank_Trichome said:
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blood4blood said:
i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping.  why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?

ever tip anybody at a fast food joint?  they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.




Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU. :shakefist: 

If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.





wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money:rolleyes:

trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere.  I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips.  but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?

and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent!  quite crying already or find a new job.




I'm sure people have already chewed you out for this in the 7 pages of this thread, but I have to speak my mind here...

You're a douchebag! You obviously don't work in the industry, so you have no idea what it's like. Servers make their living off tips. They usually get paid minimum wage  tips.
If you ever came into my restaurant and didn't tip one of the servers, the next time we saw you in there you would get horrible service and you'd likely get your food fucked with.

What goes around comes around, and if you feel too high and mighty to leave a few dollars for the people who SERVED YOU, then fuck you buddy.

On topic: I usually tip 20% (pre-tax total), although I'll tip more if the service is great, and less if it's shitty. I make my money off tips so I know how it feels to get shafted




What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.




There's a difference you can tell if people appreciated your service but can't afford to tip, don't you think it's worth it to reward them for putting in extra effort to give you an enjoyable time?  I mean we could all just lallygag, but the good ones don't..same goes with any service position.

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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14110862 - 03/12/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.




I've never once tampered with anyone's food and I've ran a couple of people
out of the restaurant for doing shit like that, I've had regulars that came
in and only tipped a quarter every time and no one else would wait on them,
to me it doesnt matter what they have in their pocket or what I know they'll
tip, they all get the same service regardless because that is my job

what you need to ask yourself is, if you dont have enough money to leave a
tip in a place where tipping is customary, knowing the servers make less
than minimum wage and rely on those tips to pay their bills and feed their
kids, did you really have enough money to be going out and splurging on
food at a restaurant? if your budget is that tight, shouldnt you be at
home eating ramen noodles and saving your pennies?

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