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Scott Ritter Interview on the current war....
#1410825 - 03/26/03 06:52 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vincent Browne: " Scott Ritter... are you surprised by how the assault in Iraq is going? Scott Ritter: " No actually, I wrote a paper that was published last Fall, that predicted just this. And i'm a little disturbed in listening to some of the analysis going along here.
I think that one of the reasons the American find themselves in such difficulties in Iraq, is that so many in the Pentagon have listened to the... blithering of Iraqi expatriots who have spoken out --rightly so-- against Saddam Hussein, and who think that it's a) the role of the United States to liberate Iraq; and b) think that the Iraqi people want us to liberate them from Saddam.
And I think that the harsh reality is that in buying off on the expectations of being greeted in the streets of Iraq with song and flowers... we now find we are being greeted with bullets and bombs.
And it's the Shia in the south who are fighting us. They're not doing it because Chemical Ali is down there with his death squads threatening to execute 'em.
They're doing it because, the American Crusader Infidel has invaded and violated Holy Iraq, and they will resist us, and they will resist us strongly.
And no matter how many Iraqi's we kill and slaughter, I predict that America will loose this war and ultimately the American military will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs.
Unfortunately, we're going to inflict a tremenduous amount of death and destruction on the people of Iraq; the American soldiers and Marines will also pay a price.
And all those who sit outside of Iraq and courageously encourage Americans to go in and slaughter Iraqi's should be ashamed of themselves."
Vincent Browne: "...You think the Americans will loose this war? "
Scott Ritter: " We lost Vietnam....
Remember we can kill many, many Iraqi's and we will do so. But I am telling you right now, that we do not have sufficient combat power in Iraq --as we speak-- to win this battle. So we will have to reinforce considerably.
The current posture, in terms of American deployment, is predicated on a presumption that the Iraqi Army would surrender; that the Iraqi people would welcome; that the internsational community would support.
The exact opposite is happening.
And now we find ourselves with fewer than 120,000 boots on the ground; facing a nation of 23 million, with armed elements numbering around 7 million --who are concentrated at urban areas.
We will not win this fight. America will loose this war.
Saddam Hussein may die... But you know what?
I'm betting that Saddam's gonna be around a lot longer than anyone can predict.
I'm betting that we don't capture Bhagdad.
I'm betting that we stall outside Bhagdad.
I'm betting that this becomes an absolute quagmire.
I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of the American lives that are going to be lost. Remember I'm a 12 year veteran of the Marine Corps. I fought in the first Gulf War. I know what war is about. I know what defending my country is about.
This is a bad war, because it has nothing to do with the defense of the United States of America. Iraq doesn't have weapons of mass destruction. The Bush Administration has pulled an enormous lie to the international community; to the American people.
And now we're in Iraq --carrying out the right-wing neo-conservative motives of a handful of people; the Richard Perle's, Paul Wolfowitz's; the Dick Cheney's. And we've allowed them to hijack our foreign policy.
And they've been cheered on by these Iraqi expatriots, who have zero credibility in my eyes. They're so brave and they want Iraq liberated... Then my goodness man, go to Iraq... fight and die for your country... But don't ask Americans to do it.
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: Rono]
#1410875 - 03/26/03 07:08 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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And now we find ourselves with fewer than 120,000 boots on the ground
I was under the impression is was around 250,000.
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with armed elements numbering around 7 million --who are concentrated at urban areas.
Except they seem to be shooting at each other, at least in Basra.
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And now we're in Iraq --carrying out the right-wing neo-conservative motives of a handful of people;
So now it's for the right wing and the expatriots? What happened? Did all the oil dry up?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1410880 - 03/26/03 07:10 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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I also noticed that the number of troops was off...but I didn't write it, I'm just relaying it.
Scott Ritter never said it was about the oil...I did...remember?
Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.
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Edited by Rono (03/26/03 07:14 AM)
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: Rono]
#1410919 - 03/26/03 07:26 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's the matter?
Getting defensive or just lacking a sense of humor today?
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but I didn't write it
Don't recall saying you did.
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Scott Ritter never said it was about the oil...I did...remember?
Oh you Canadians..... of course I remember. That's the only reason I wrote that in a response to your post.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1411000 - 03/26/03 07:52 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Except they seem to be shooting at each other, at least in Basra.
Latest news is the uprising could be just another propaganda story.
At present, very little news is coming out of Basra from independent sources, so it is difficult to be sure what is really happening. Some British versions have been much more cautious, describing the uprising as "nascent", while al-Jazeera's reporter inside the city said there was no sign of any uprising at all.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/dailybriefing/story/0,12965,922218,00.html
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1411121 - 03/26/03 08:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Troop numbers may be wrong, but that may be because hes only counting combat troops? consider that every one of those 250,000 arent combat personnel, most are support.
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Re: Scott Ritter Interview on the current war.... [Re: Xlea321]
#1411177 - 03/26/03 09:12 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Latest news is the uprising could be just another propaganda story.
Alpo, I did use the word "seem".
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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