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 Tipping at restaurants. 
#14108002 - 03/12/11 09:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been getting some funny looks from friends, family, etc. lately from my tips at restaurants.
The "assumed amount" here is 15% of the check price. However, I tend to tip around 30-35%.
It's not that I'm a high roller or trying to impress anyone (although, that's what these people seem to think!), I just view it as another simple way to spread the love.
How much do you guys tip when going out?
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure] 1
#14108012 - 03/12/11 09:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I throw whatever extra money I have at them and hope it's "enough."
When I first saw this thread title I thought it said "tripping at restaurants" and I mainly came in here to laugh at you. 
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It depends on the restaurant and the service. I'm usually around 20%, but will not hesitate to bump it up or down for good/bad service.
As a server, I can assure you that it is always an awesome surprise when someone leaves 25% and above, so know that your generosity is appreciated. 
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
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If they have a tip jar 
However, I hardly ever eat at fast food restaurants. 
Also, the cooks get paid a normal full wage.. most waitresses/hostesses do not.
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When I first saw this thread title I thought it said "tripping at restaurants" and I mainly came in here to laugh at you.
Haha, no way!
I'd be all like 
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As a server, I can assure you that it is always an awesome surprise when someone leaves 25% and above, so know that your generosity is appreciated.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: blood4blood] 1
#14108058 - 03/12/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU. 
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14108063 - 03/12/11 09:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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LoL I read it as tripping in restaurants also. Immediately remembered uncooked pancakes, they where cooked though.
On topic, I usually just tip at 15% and round up to the next dollar.
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blood4blood said:
i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: 4runner]
#14108078 - 03/12/11 09:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you tip on tax?
I knew a guy once who said it was uncustomary to tip on alcohol.
I usually tip at 20 percent (tax and booze both included). If the service is bad I'll go a lot lower and if its atrocious I've been known not to tip at all.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14108084 - 03/12/11 09:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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20%, and then I round up to the next dollar.
I mean, a "normal" bill for two people is $40-50. So that's 8-10 bucks for an hour or so of service. Unskilled labor isn't worth any more than that.
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I tip on the final total, everything included. If the service is extra good I will tip higher, same with some breakfast joints I tend to be a regular at.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: badchad]
#14108099 - 03/12/11 09:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought it said "tripping at restaurants" to 
I try to give generous tips, but I'm not sure what a general percentage would be
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: badchad]
#14108101 - 03/12/11 09:47 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I usually tip 20 percent. I don't stray from it too far. I've been known to go up a little for exceptional service but it is very rare that I'll get service that makes me want to tip less.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: 4runner]
#14108103 - 03/12/11 09:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's a stupid book out, I think it's called "Life's Little Rule Book", they have it usually as one of those little throwaway gift items that decorate the check-out line of corporate bookstores. One of the rules in there was "Always over-tip breakfast servers."
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14108104 - 03/12/11 09:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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First of all, I don't like the way restaurants have their customers paying for their employees salaries... my girlfriend waitressed before and made $2.15/hr, and they can legally do that because of 'Tips'.
Rubs me the wrong way, but I still tip anyhow.
Just as a little side note, TIPS used to be given before the meal or drinks were served, and is an acronym for "TO INSURE PROMPT SERVICE".
I have a whole system of tipping based on points.
I give points and take away points depending on certain details of the service, which determines the percentage I tip.
If drinks are involved, it's usually higher.
Also, if a waitress is really hot and being flirty and cutesy, I tip as low as possible because I just don't dig that kind of behavior trying to 'seduce' money from dudes.
On the contrary, I stopped in for a meal after work one time at a restaurant, needed to do some paperwork, and the girl was clean cut, but not very attractive, and you could tell she was just naturally nice and good spirited...
I'm sure it made her feel really good, when I got a 12$ check and dropped her two $20 bills.
I made fuck tons of money back then, and I was about 23 years old so I loved doing shit like that.
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
I tip out on food sales, not actual tips, so whatever I ring in the computer is tallied up at the end of the night and I have to tip out on that.
If I had to tip out on tips I brought in I wouldn't care if you tipped 0. 5% of 0 is still 0. derp.
Sounds like you have some awesome friends if they would try to cheat their co-workers out of money. 
I serve to help pay my way through college so I can become a skilled laborer. I don't work at Dennys either so my job involves a little more than taking an order and running it out, I pride myself on being able to answer peoples questions about our food and drinks.
If you are taking a big group out tonight be prepared to have auto gratuity added to your tab, its fairly standard...
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wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
this is why i think everyone should be required to work as a server for at least 6 months.
you arent getting "extra" money when someone tips you.. the most I have ever made hourly as a server is $3.50/hour. That is assuming you are paid an hourly wage at all.. sometimes they dont even do that. tips are the only source of income for a server.
fast food doesnt count because they get paid at least minimum wage.
as for RP, i will tip 20% minimum.. usually around 30-35% like you though.
and ALWAYS tip in cash.
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Senor_Doobie said:
There's a stupid book out, I think it's called "Life's Little Rule Book", they have it usually as one of those little throwaway gift items that decorate the check-out line of corporate bookstores. One of the rules in there was "Always over-tip breakfast servers."
Weird I found that online . Pretty much what I already do with breakfast. Never really thought of if before.
According to that a tip is 20% I wonder if 15% is last decade?
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Who do you think you are? Do you deserve someone waiting on you for nothing? Do you look at service as a gift to you?
If you don't tip, you should stay home!
It's very unfortunate some of you feel this way.
Yeah, take it out on the person serving YOU. That for sure will get you excellent service in the future as well!
oh and 20-25% is my norm
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#14108163 - 03/12/11 10:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wonder if 15% is last decade?
a lot of times this is a regional thing. when i am off the coasts and in the middle of the country, and Canada, most people seem to tip 15%. around here (Philly) I dont know anyone who tips less than 20%.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14108173 - 03/12/11 10:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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thought the title was tripping at restraunts. having seen that it's not, honestly
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
If this isn't a troll, then that's a scummy thing to do. Remember that.
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blood4blood said:
i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
hahaha.. what a cunt. have fun eating spit, you stingy prick 
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The tip completely depends on the service.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14108255 - 03/12/11 10:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i personally hardly ever tip less than 20%. the server would basically have to insult me or a member of my dining party for me to tip less. good service gets 25% from me.
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I give points and take away points depending on certain details of the service, which determines the percentage I tip.
Holy shit, that was on an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun
In washington state, we don't have that bullshit "you get less than minimum wage because of tips" thing.
However, I still always tip 20%, maybe slightly less or more to get it to an even dollar. I wish tipping was what it should be; a reward only for exceptional service, but it's pretty much mandatory now. You're an asshole if you don't tip, which sucks.
I never tip at places like starbucks though. Fucking starbucks, their jobs are easier than mcdonald's and I didn't get tipped for working at mcdonald's, so fuck em.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: BlueJayWay]
#14108308 - 03/12/11 11:00 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i thought it said,
"tripping at a rest."
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seriously. you're all a bunch of whiny babies. Fuck! I am not going to shell out an extra 20% of my hard earned cash for someone that brought me food.
why does a server get special treatment and not your mailman or meter reader. tip those guys!
a server is going to get their minimum wage regardless if i tip them or not, and if you dont, find a job somewhere else for fucks sake. a server paying out of his/her own pocket to serve me is laughable!
and yes. i've done my share of serving/waiting so don't tell me i dont know what i am talking about. you guys def. aren't working for a slave ring.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: BlueJayWay]
#14108410 - 03/12/11 11:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I give points and take away points depending on certain details of the service, which determines the percentage I tip.
You're an asshole if you don't tip, which sucks.
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just wow! you can honestly call someone you've never met before in your life an asshole because they don't fucking tip?
i guess i am an asshole, and you've never met me. but i can tell you this much, i have done tons with me life to help my community and the betterment of lives around me through countless hours of volunteering and general kindness but i am still just an asshole because i dont tip.
and we're the future of this country?
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$2.35, brah. that's what servers in my state make hourly. but it's worth doing, because enough people are actually decent, empathetic human beings willing to tip for good service. you are vastly in the minority here and your pathetic attempts to explain away your prickishness are for naught.
and you obviously have never served at a decent establishment because you would never say it's just "bringing someone food".
as a server, i am there to shape the customer's experience to the best of my abilities. i'm required to have extensive knowledge of not only the dishes on the menu, but the individual ingredients; which region they're from, the name of the farm, how and when they were harvested, how they were prepped, etc. i'm there to suggest the best wine pairing to complement the flavor set you've chosen, taking you on a verbal journey to the vineyard in the process. i'm there to clear an empty glass and bring another at the wag of a finger. i'm there to catch flak from the kitchen for asking them to cook the absurdly convoluted amalgamation of dishes you just asked for. for 2 hours, i basically play the part of servant, doing damn near anything asked of me within the realm of reason.
if you don't want to fucking tip, get take-out. yes, you're still an asshole.
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a server is going to get their minimum wage regardless if i tip them or not
i have worked in dozens of restaurants since i was 15 (im 25 now) and ive always worked as a server.
i have never been paid minimum wage.
like i said in a post above, $3.50 was the most i ever got paid hourly. lots of places dont even put you on the books so there is no hourly wage at all.
just cause you volunteer doing something else doesnt mean you arent a douche to your server.
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seriously. you're all a bunch of whiny babies. Fuck! I am not going to shell out an extra 20% of my hard earned cash for someone that brought me food.
And your server isn't working hard and earning their money too? Do you not tip on big tabs either? If you ran up 150 dollars and food and wine and stiffed the server that's just low. But I guess you need that money since you're such a kindhearted person and all 
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blood4blood said:why does a server get special treatment and not your mailman or meter reader. tip those guys!
There's a difference in pay, and they make a salary..
Also, every mailman I have known, receives lots of gifts and money from the people they deliver to, usually around Christmas.
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It's funny when you point out to somebody that they're being a stingy cunt and then they call you a whiny baby.
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Mailmen make bank compared to waiters/waitresses.
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ummm... i doubt all mailmen have the trade experience to build an actual structure like a bank.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Frost]
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bunch of cool stories "brahs"
yes, a server is the ONLY person getting over worked and under paid. for dumb. fucking hang me from the highest tree with the shortest rope for i am the biggest asshole in all of the land!
so i am a douche to my server? okay, i am fine with that. so your a kindhearted person to everyone you've ever met that does a service for you? well if not, let's come down on you for being an "asshole"
do any of you honestly read before you submit?
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being a server is the easiest job ive ever had. its nothing but busy work.
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fucking hang me from the highest tree with the shortest rope for i am the biggest asshole in all of the land!
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Frost]
#14108568 - 03/12/11 11:51 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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bunch of shroomery hypocrites! "peace and love brah" but fuck that guy, he's a dick because he doesn't tip.
Nazi's i tell ya.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dunno]
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being a server is the easiest job ive ever had. its nothing but busy work.
i loved serving, and yes i did serve at a nice establishment. Olive Garden to be exact, probably not near as "nice" as somewhere like an "astounding citizen, big tipper" like yourself TRB has served at, but it was nice.
i made a little more than minimum and always treated everybody with the up most respect and never tried to make a party feel like they had to tip me. if they tipped bad or didnt tip at all i never thought less of them. what the fucks the point of that?
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hahaha.. your hyperbole and gross generalizations do not go unnoticed.
dude, simply put, if you don't want to adhere to general convention and actually tip your servers - this is literally other people's livelihood we're talking about - then don't eat in restaurants. at the very least, don't waste someone's time.
by sitting in a restaurant and accepting service, you are entering an unstated understanding to tip for the time spent serving you. you see, it's just such common practice that no one really needs to state it. if you don't want to be considered an asshole and you don't want to tip, then don't initiate this unstated understanding by sitting in a restaurant and accepting service.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Frost]
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blood4blood said:why does a server get special treatment and not your mailman or meter reader. tip those guys!
There's a difference in pay, and they make a salary..
Also, every mailman I have known, receives lots of gifts and money from the people they deliver to, usually around Christmas.
god damn you are such a fucking crybaby. nobody has to tip if they dont want to. if i ran up a $150 bill and saw my server bringing out plate after plate and giving me refills when i needed them e.t.c. then fuck yes i would tip. the other day went to chilis and it took 10 min before the waitress came to even say "Hi I am your waiter" She brought out two plates of food and two drinks....Thats it! You want to be tipped for that. get fucked.
All you did was write down on your little fucking notepad what we wanted and give it to the damn cooks. If that...you probably just had to ring it up in a computer. Stop bitching and go work in the back and make the food....when people complain its not you who has to cook it over...the chef does. you think you deserve more money for walking in the back and bringing me a plate of pre cooked food. fuck you crybaby.
if thats the case I should get commission on every fader i push up on my audio console when I am working a 24 hour shift being a front of house engineer for some spoiled wanna bee rockstar who will go out of his way to make your life shitty. but you dont see me complaining. get a different fucking job if you think you need to be tipped for bringing out a damn plate.
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always treated everybody with the up most utmost respect
fixed. 
dude, if everyone should be cool with you being respectful then just start telling the server at the outset that you will not be tipping them.
this will let them know they dont really have to pay attention to you.
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
hahaha.. your hyperbole and gross generalizations do not go unnoticed.
dude, simply put, if you don't want to adhere to general convention and actually tip your servers - this is literally other people's livelihood we're talking about - then don't eat in restaurants. at the very least, don't waste someone's time.
by sitting in a restaurant and accepting service, you are entering an unstated understanding to tip for the time spent serving you. you see, it's just such common practice that no one really needs to state it. if you don't want to be considered an asshole and you don't want to tip, then don't initiate this unstated understanding by sitting in a restaurant and accepting service.
i'll eat wherever the fuck I want....its not a law to tip...you dont like non tippers then dont work at a restaurant and expect to be tipped. there are plenty of other jobs out there.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791]
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the other day went to chilis and it took 10 min before the waitress came to even say "Hi I am your waiter" She brought out two plates of food and two drinks....Thats it! You want to be tipped for that. get fucked.
thats not always the servers fault.
the kitchen could be dicking around or another server may have quit in the middle of their shift (insanely common) or a bus full of old people just pulled up (had this all the time working in hotels).
granted, there are definitely lazy servers but, in some instances, you have to excuse the wait.. the server is doing the best they can.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791]
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i actually don't have to worry about that too much. i've never been stiffed at my current job. we don't really get people like that in our establishment. to date, my worst tip percentage was like 11%. average is like 21-22% with generally a $45-55 head average. our place doesn't exactly attract cheapskates.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: frith]
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cool, thanks brah!
I would really hate to have friends like most of you. Being prejudice against another human being because they don't tip. How fucking stupid! Livelihoods, give me a break! Get a new job if your getting stiffed. Nobody is forcing you to work for under minimum wage.
So TRB, you can take your elitist attitude and channel it into making some wicked awesome hemp pants and a fucking hacky sack and get bent!
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
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This thread title took me back years ago to a wicked acid trip combined with unlimited crab legs....
Back on topic, I usually tip close to 20% for a mediocre server and bump it up or down depending on the service.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: frith]
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I tip purely based on service..
You check up on me once and give me food when I've been needing water, napkins, or what hae you... Don't expect a tip period.
You check up on me a multiple times to make sure im good to go, fill up my drinks, make sure im satisfied, are polite, expect to get a generous tip
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
i actually don't have to worry about that too much. i've never been stiffed at my current job. we don't really get people like that in our establishment. to date, my worst tip percentage was like 11%. average is like 21-22% with generally a $45-55 head average. our place doesn't exactly attract cheapskates.
wow, you must be like....... the coolest guy on earth!
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blood4blood said:
cool, thanks brah!
I would really hate to have friends like most of you. Being prejudice against another human being because they don't tip. How fucking stupid! Livelihoods, give me a break! Get a new job if your getting stiffed. Nobody is forcing you to work for under minimum wage.
So TRB, you can take your elitist attitude and channel it into making some wicked awesome hemp pants and a fucking hacky sack and get bent!
haha.. oh god man. you are so full of facepalm, it hurts.
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i am going to drop out of school and focus solely on being as radical as you. Should i climb a mountain or something? Maybe end world hunger? Would that make up for being an asshole because i don't tip? I just want to know, what would TRB do?
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Dank_Trichome said:
It depends on the restaurant and the service. I'm usually around 20%, but will not hesitate to bump it up or down for good/bad service.
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It depends on the restaurant and the service. I'm usually around 20%, but will not hesitate to bump it up or down for good/bad service.
Haha that scene is exactly what I thought of when I began reading through this thread
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i am going to drop out of school and focus solely on being as radical as you. Should i climb a mountain or something? Maybe end world hunger? Would that make up for being an asshole because i don't tip? I just want to know, what would TRB do?
You seem pretty upset about this.
If being a cheapskate doesn't bother you, why all the defensiveness?
But you've been proven wrong so many times in this thread.
Splitting tips with cooks, all servers making minimum wage, etc.
It lends one to believe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and that you're just making shit up as you go along to justify what you wanna do...
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This thread makes me furious....
You are an ignorant asshole if you feel that you are entitled to the service that you recieve at restaurants..
PLEASE do not go out to eat..Please stop going out to eat. You are not welcome.
I hope someone at the table is sincere enough to leave an appropriate tip.
I apologize for the sub par service that you may have had in the past...but I fucking bust my ass for people, to make sure that on their night out they have the most relaxing and enjoyable meal possible.
The restaurant industry is not fucking magic.
I have work in an hour...where I'm going to run around like a headless chicken till 12 am and deal with shitty people like you.
Thank you for pissing me off before I even hit the floor.
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
$2.35, brah. that's what servers in my state make hourly. but it's worth doing, because enough people are actually decent, empathetic human beings willing to tip for good service. you are vastly in the minority here and your pathetic attempts to explain away your prickishness are for naught.
and you obviously have never served at a decent establishment because you would never say it's just "bringing someone food".
as a server, i am there to shape the customer's experience to the best of my abilities. i'm required to have extensive knowledge of not only the dishes on the menu, but the individual ingredients; which region they're from, the name of the farm, how and when they were harvested, how they were prepped, etc. i'm there to suggest the best wine pairing to complement the flavor set you've chosen, taking you on a verbal journey to the vineyard in the process. i'm there to clear an empty glass and bring another at the wag of a finger. i'm there to catch flak from the kitchen for asking them to cook the absurdly convoluted amalgamation of dishes you just asked for. for 2 hours, i basically play the part of servant, doing damn near anything asked of me within the realm of reason.
if you don't want to fucking tip, get take-out. yes, you're still an asshole.
QFMFT
there's always some asshole in threads like this who brags about not tipping.
you don't tip all those other people because they make a living wage. servers & bartenders get paid diddly squat by the hour, and guests tip accordingly. by sitting down at my table you are basically binding yourself to this unspoken contract, and that's just the way it is in this country, if don't like it stay home instead of stealing money directly out of the pockets of the waitstaff, bartenders, barbacks and food runners who are collectively working to ensure you have a pleasant and delicious dining experience.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: yogabunny]
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First off, tipping to me is strickly how i feel. Majority of the time, if not always, i feel great going out to eat. So therefore I tend to tip nicely.
Secondly, I don't really calculate the percent. I'm pretty sure that I always tip more than the appropriate amount because I'm having a good time.
If you aren't having a good time and take it out on the server, you sir are a dick or bitch-which ever one suits your gender. So stay at home if youre going to be like that.
I never have served before, but I understand that you go out to have a good time, so why not share the wealth of enjoying life with everyone around you.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Lotus8]
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This thread makes me furious....
You are an ignorant asshole if you feel that you are entitled to the service that you recieve at restaraunts..
PLEASE do not go out to eat..Please stop going out to eat. You are not welcome.
I hope someone at the table is sincere enough to leave an appropriate tip.
I apologize for the sub par service that you may have had in the past...but I fucking bust my ass for people, to make sure that on their night out they have the most relaxing and enjoyable meal possible.
The restaurant industry is not fucking magic.
I have work in an hour...where I'm going to run around like a headless chicken till 12 am and deal with shitty people like you.
Thank you for pissing me off before I even hit the floor.
i hope you have a good night at work and make lots of monies!!! 
i took off tonight to go see soulive.
i have a feeling the people in this thread who are bragging about not tipping have probably never been to a restaurant other than red lobster or the olive garden. i have spent a decade learning about food and wine, im passionate about both and love talking to my customers and making sure they have a great experience at my restaurant.
haters gonna....
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what was the weirdest style of tip you have received? Anyone?
Like how was it weird?
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14109005 - 03/12/11 01:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ALWAYS tip well - 20-30%
if the service SUCKS then tip goes down accordingly.
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a couple of weeks ago i was doing coat check @ a Big Gigantic show and this kid asked me to put his hat into the sleeve of his coat and afterward he was like "well you can have money for a tip or a roll" 
a week before that a customer where i wait tables came up to me and slipped a capsule of molly into my hand before he left.
one time a guy put his phone number & hotel room key into the check presenter. yuck.
i get lots of marriage proposals. hehe.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: frith]
#14109044 - 03/12/11 01:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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blood4blood said:
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
this is why i think everyone should be required to work as a server for at least 6 months.
you arent getting "extra" money when someone tips you.. the most I have ever made hourly as a server is $3.50/hour. That is assuming you are paid an hourly wage at all.. sometimes they dont even do that. tips are the only source of income for a server.
fast food doesnt count because they get paid at least minimum wage.
as for RP, i will tip 20% minimum.. usually around 30-35% like you though.
and ALWAYS tip in cash.
What do you mean always tip in cash? Is it easier for waiters to get screwed out of their tip if I use my card?
Or do you mean don't leave coupons or weed or something??!
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a couple of weeks ago i was doing coat check @ a Big Gigantic show and this kid asked me to put his hat into the sleeve of his coat and afterward he was like "well you can have money for a tip or a roll"
a week before that a customer where i wait tables came up to me and slipped a capsule of molly into my hand before he left.
one time a guy put his phone number & hotel room key into the check presenter. yuck.
i get lots of marriage proposals. hehe.
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Madtowntripper said:
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blood4blood said:
i am going to drop out of school and focus solely on being as radical as you. Should i climb a mountain or something? Maybe end world hunger? Would that make up for being an asshole because i don't tip? I just want to know, what would TRB do?
You seem pretty upset about this.
If being a cheapskate doesn't bother you, why all the defensiveness?
But you've been proven wrong so many times in this thread.
Splitting tips with cooks, all servers making minimum wage, etc.
It lends one to believe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and that you're just making shit up as you go along to justify what you wanna do...
pure filth! you're retarded. I didn't work all over the country to see how other establishments pay. Where I worked i got minimum and didn't have to split tips with anybody guy.
like i said, if you're not getting paid at least minimum because "cheapskates" like me don't tip find a new fucking job! Fuck, so many whiners on these boards.
I am paying for the food, not the shitty service. If a can grab a menu and tell the cook what i want and he rings a bell when it's done ill go up and get it myself and end this whole one sided debate with you.
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blood4blood, you should make it clear to you servers that you're not going to be
tipping them shit as soon as they introduce themselves so they can give you the
special service and (hopefully) the special food you deserve.
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Tchan909 said:
I throw whatever extra money I have at them and hope it's "enough."
When I first saw this thread title I thought it said "tripping at restaurants" and I mainly came in here to laugh at you.
I thought it said tripping, as well.
To the OP- I generally tip 20-30% depending on service. I work in the service industry(about to leave for work, actually) and we appreciate your kindness. There are enough shitty people that don't tip, so it all balances out when people actually do the right thing.
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it seems like you have so much anger inside of you.
would you like a hug??
you are paying for the service because without the server, it would be take out or a fast food restaurant. waitstaff is what takes the dining experience to that next level. you shouldn't be so defensive about it, and you may not agree with it, but it's been this way since the beginning of time and it's not going to change any time soon. why don't you move to europe where they pay their servers a living wage and you only tip a little bit for EXCEPTIONAL service.
if i wanted to make minimum wage i would get a job that pays minimum wage. i like to make more than minimum wage which is why i toil away slinging food and drinks. im really passionate about food & wine, and i enjoy my job. and THANK FUCKING GOD in NYC people like you don't exist.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: yogabunny]
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It's my understanding, in my state, that servers are taxed on a certain percentage per bill that the state assumes they receive in tips. I think this is so the state can tax cash tips. Above that, servers are taxed on reported tips over this percentage. I could be completely wrong about how it works here, but that's my understanding.
I know servers that report only some of their tips. That doesn't bother me.
In any case, I usually tip 15% for decent service, anything beyond that gets more. I don't hesitate to hold the tip for crappy service, though. If I don't have cash myself, I'll tip on a card, but usually I'll leave at least most of the tip in cash.
I've had plenty of friends work that sort of gig before, it gets messed up sometimes.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: yogabunny]
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$2.35, brah. that's what servers in my state make hourly. but it's worth doing, because enough people are actually decent, empathetic human beings willing to tip for good service. you are vastly in the minority here and your pathetic attempts to explain away your prickishness are for naught.
and you obviously have never served at a decent establishment because you would never say it's just "bringing someone food".
as a server, i am there to shape the customer's experience to the best of my abilities. i'm required to have extensive knowledge of not only the dishes on the menu, but the individual ingredients; which region they're from, the name of the farm, how and when they were harvested, how they were prepped, etc. i'm there to suggest the best wine pairing to complement the flavor set you've chosen, taking you on a verbal journey to the vineyard in the process. i'm there to clear an empty glass and bring another at the wag of a finger. i'm there to catch flak from the kitchen for asking them to cook the absurdly convoluted amalgamation of dishes you just asked for. for 2 hours, i basically play the part of servant, doing damn near anything asked of me within the realm of reason.
if you don't want to fucking tip, get take-out. yes, you're still an asshole.
QFMFT
there's always some asshole in threads like this who brags about not tipping.
you don't tip all those other people because they make a living wage. servers & bartenders get paid diddly squat by the hour, and guests tip accordingly. by sitting down at my table you are basically binding yourself to this unspoken contract, and that's just the way it is in this country, if don't like it stay home instead of stealing money directly out of the pockets of the waitstaff, bartenders, barbacks and food runners who are collectively working to ensure you have a pleasant and delicious dining experience.
haha. I don't think anybody is bragging about not tipping. A guy doesn't tip, so what. You guys are singling one person out and treating him as if he sodomized a 4 year old. Leave the guy alone! You guys seriously have nothing better to do than rip on a guy because he doesn't tip? You all are quite pathetic.
and thank god I don't have people like you where I live because we'd all be fucked if your treating a guy like this for not tipping.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: thoughts]
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iwasaClown said:
blood4blood, you should make it clear to you servers that you're not going to be
tipping them shit as soon as they introduce themselves so they can give you the
special service and (hopefully) the special food you deserve.
yes, and i will tell my barber i won't be tipping him so he can fuck my hair up and i'll tell my mechanic i won't be tipping him so he can fuck my car up. dumb.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: yogabunny]
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why don't you move to europe where they pay their servers a living wage and you only tip a little bit for EXCEPTIONAL service.
yes! it's make logical sense for me to pack up everything and leave behind all ive established to move to Europe to be with fellow non tippers. get fucking real!
did you expect everybody in this thread to tip?
well i expect everybody to recycle their old florescent bulbs. But if i run across someone who doesn't i def. will not call him an asshole and treat him as all of you are treating me for not doing so.
i swear some of you have the mental capacity of a lama!
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If anyone is making themselves look like a dumbass here it's you.
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why does a server get special treatment and not your mailman or meter reader. tip those guys!
a server is going to get their minimum wage regardless if i tip them or not, and if you dont, find a job somewhere else for fucks sake. a server paying out of his/her own pocket to serve me is laughable!
It's pretty clear you're failing to understand that most servers aren't getting payed minimum wage plus tips, they're usually getting payed less than half of what the minimum wage is.
TIPS are how they make their money. Get that through your head.
Cooks and fucking mailmen or whatever other bullshit you mentioned get payed a decent hourly wage. THAT's why you don't tip them. Do you get it?
If a server got payed, say, $9.00 per hour, then yeah it would make sense not to tip them.
But they don't.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: thoughts]
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how the fuck do i know what a server makes guy?
i made minimum when i worked.
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Maybe start asking questions.
More than a few people here have broke the news to you
that not all servers are getting payed minimum wage.
In fact, less than 3 dollars seems to be the average hourly wage.
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If you're ever a regular customer somewhere expect shitty service in the future, I always remember the non-tippers & the good tippers who appreciate the service, & show my appreciation by sending a couple of free drinks their way throughout the night, non tippers..well I'm certainly not in any rush to get to their order.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: thoughts]
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i understand that. i didn't write the laws on what to pay a waiter. does a bartender get 2$ and hour also? bartenders get tipped all the time. if you dont like it, do something about it. dont depend on me to make your living.
all of you are being complete dicks to me because i dont tip, and i am the asshole?
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Enlightenedwon said:
If you're ever a regular customer somewhere expect shitty service in the future, I always remember the non-tippers & the good tippers who appreciate the service, & show my appreciation by sending a couple of free drinks their way throughout the night, non tippers..well I'm certainly not in any rush to get to their order.
amazing. "well gee, he didn't tip me so i am going to treat him differently"
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glad to see the zero rates coming in. was wondering when that was going to happen.
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When the hell did tipping even began?
Some guy said, i'm gonna give the waitress more! People saw and it stuck?
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blood4blood said:
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Enlightenedwon said:
If you're ever a regular customer somewhere expect shitty service in the future, I always remember the non-tippers & the good tippers who appreciate the service, & show my appreciation by sending a couple of free drinks their way throughout the night, non tippers..well I'm certainly not in any rush to get to their order.
amazing. "well gee, he didn't tip me so i am going to treat him differently"
Of course if that is the only interaction people have with you then they will judge your character based upon it.
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Can someone answer this for me?
When you order food "to-go" from a restaurant, are you still expected to tip? I usually leave some sort of tip, but is it really necessary? Will they frown on you if you don't?
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Tipping bartenders is worse than tipping waiters imo. I still do thought because they don't get paid well.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Ballerium]
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Ballerium said:
Can someone answer this for me?
When you order food "to-go" from a restaurant, are you still expected to tip? I usually leave some sort of tip, but is it really necessary? Will they frown on you if you don't?
I don't think so.
I know I don't.
Me picking up food pretty much negates the time and attention the waitstaff would normally spend on me.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: pwnasaurus]
#14109516 - 03/12/11 03:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i can't believe you are telling me to die because i don't tip.
there is seriously something wrong with you
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: thoughts]
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this is why i don't come on here, other than the fact that i am an asshole i guess.
the shroomery is the exact opposite of what it is portrayed to be. i couldn't imagine what you guys would say to somebody who committed adultery.
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I wasn't aware the Shroomery was ever portrayed as anything but a forum for people to trade tips on growing psychoactive mushrooms. 
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blood4blood said:
this is why i don't come on here, other than the fact that i am an asshole i guess.
the shroomery is the exact opposite of what it is portrayed to be. i couldn't imagine what you guys would say to somebody who committed adultery.
agreed.
i only come on cause im really really really bored and like to fuck with people.
i have a feeling that 90% of the people on here arnt anything like that like to make their selfs out to be.
this reminds me of the old school chats where all the bitches in the room were 5'5 blond hair and blue eyes at 120 lbs.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Dunno]
#14109659 - 03/12/11 03:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread needs to be closed. Too many of these are made each year and it is the sane redundant shit all the time.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14109689 - 03/12/11 04:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i flagged a post for ya Pris.
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I don't really understand why people tend to tip based on the amount of the check. There are a lot of things that are expensive because the materials used to make them cost more for the restaurant to buy (like new york strip steak vs. chicken fingers for example), but there isn't much difference in how difficult it is for the cook to prepare or the server to deliver to your table. I tend to base my tip only on the quality of the service, and the amount of work that is involved in making and preparing my meal. That method just makes more sense to me.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: HuHEN]
#14109815 - 03/12/11 04:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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HuHEN said:
Tipping bartenders is worse than tipping waiters imo. I still do thought because they don't get paid well.
Pfft have you ever been to a busy bar?
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14109828 - 03/12/11 04:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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JesusGoneRogue said:
thought the title was tripping at restraunts. having seen that it's not, honestly
Ahaha! Sorry to disappoint, guys. =(
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Ballerium said:
Can someone answer this for me?
When you order food "to-go" from a restaurant, are you still expected to tip? I usually leave some sort of tip, but is it really necessary? Will they frown on you if you don't?
I don't think it's expected, but I still tip.
However, I don't tip my normal %, It's significantly lowered as there was no waiting on me. I tend to tip 10-15% for these orders.. maybe a little more if they bring it out to the car.
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I cant close this thread, I havent made my ban quota yet
Phew!
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
#14109862 - 03/12/11 04:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does nobody have any funny stories about tripping in restaurants? I know I have a good one and I know there has to be some more around here somewhere.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: astrolope]
#14109872 - 03/12/11 04:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please share!
I do not.. I don't think I could bring myself to go into a restaurant while tripping.
I have been into CVS and gas stations while tripping. Good times.
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astrolope said:
Does nobody have any funny stories about tripping in restaurants? I know I have a good one and I know there has to be some more around here somewhere.
I was working at a waffle house and this group of punk kids that lived
near by would stop in every day for a little something to eat and
bullshit, anyway several times the manager asked me to boot them out and I
told her no, that they're paying customers, they dont cause any trouble
and I rely on their tips as well as everyone elses... one afternoon they
were short on cash, couldnt afford the tip thy usually leave (kids are
notorious for not tipping according to people I worked with) which was
almost the amount of the check, so they left what they had
it just so happened the manager was called to the table to look at the tip
by the drunken cunt I worked with and they both started laughing, I
scooped up my tip with a smile on my face and they wondered why I wasnt
insulted and pissed, I asked them, how often does anyone leave you their
life savings or most prized possessions for a tip?
they left me 3 cigarettes, a couple of pieces of gum, a polished rock and
a dead kennedys button, and if you dont agree that that's the best tip in
the world then you just dont know great tipping
but then again... you wanted tripping stories, a friend and I were
tripping in a waffle house and a cop came in, sat with us and started
telling us all his financial and woman troubles... less exciting than a tip
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: astrolope]
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It is not really worth it to try and argue with people to get them to tip. Those who don't "believe" in tipping won't do it, regardless of what you tell them.
The response of "if you don't like it then quit" is really fucking dumb. As a college student I have class all day and there are not a lot of job opportunities working at night that don't involve getting paid in tips. Gee, I'm not making a ton of money, I better quit, that will surely improve my financial situation. :rollseyes:
One bad tipper will not make or break my night, so I don't let it affect me, it's on to the next. Does leaving no tip make you an evil person? No. Does it make you a total tool? Imho, yes.
25% and up =  
20% = 
15% =
10% = 
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
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I read Tripping at restaurants. So since I dont eat out I don't tip anything. Im pretty poor/stingy...
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Never more then 10% but i always leave a tip.
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Something is better than nothing!
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It is not really worth it to try and argue with people to get them to tip. Those who don't "believe" in tipping won't do it, regardless of what you tell them.
The response of "if you don't like it then quit" is really fucking dumb. As a college student I have class all day and there are not a lot of job opportunities working at night that don't involve getting paid in tips. Gee, I'm not making a ton of money, I better quit, that will surely improve my financial situation. :rollseyes:
One bad tipper will not make or break my night, so I don't let it affect me, it's on to the next. Does leaving no tip make you an evil person? No. Does it make you a total tool? Imho, yes.
25% and up =
20% =
15% =
10% =
0% =
Personally if someone leaves something I feel like my extra effort was appreciated, for me it doesn't really the matter the amount because I know that some have more than others to give, so even a small tip is appreciated (unless the bill is overly exuberant). Also, I never add the mandatory gratuity if people want to give they will I don't think it should be forced upon anyone though.
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Something is better than nothing!
The worst I ever got was a pamphlet about how I was sinner and should accept Jesus to save my soul
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
All they do is write the order down run it to the chef and bring it out to you. Thats it, and you demand a tip as common courtesy?
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blood4blood said:
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Dank_Trichome said:
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blood4blood said:
i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
All they do is write the order down run it to the chef and bring it out to you. Thats it, and you demand a tip as common courtesy?
Do you guys eat at waffle house and dennys every time you go out or something? My job involves more than just taking an order and running it out. And no one is "demanding" tips. You guys make it seem like whenever the check is brought out your server is up in your face like "Yo you better fucking tip me dude!!!" If you can afford to go out to eat you can afford to throw down a couple bucks for tip. It doesn't have to be a crazy amount, but leaving nothing is pretty weak.
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Your not getting up in anybody's face but the sentiment is there its pretty obvious you see people who dont tip you as useless tools.
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I think I'm justified in feeling that someone who comes in and wastes my time and money is a tool.
Trust me, I didn't design the system that's in place where not tipping is considered rude, I'd much rather it be like in Europe where you only tip when the service went above and beyond, but it is what is.
You have every right not to tip, and I have every right to think you a douche for not doing so.
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No ones wasting your time or money its your job to serve people, tips are a perk not a expectation. Then again I live in Canada and we arnt socially pressured to have to support needy broke ass students habits with tips.
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Oh you are in Canada, maybe it is different up there and waiters are paid a decent hourly...
Yeah stupid me for having to pay for classes, books, and food. Should have thought of that before I was born
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All they do is write the order down run it to the chef and bring it out to you. Thats it, and you demand a tip as common courtesy?
if you want that sort of service you're obviously looking for McDonalds, a
good waitron unit does far more than deliver orders to the kitchen, I myself
always checked the stock to see what's not preentable and steered people
away, for instance if I didnt make the chili we served I tasted what was
there, if it looked or tasted unappealing then I'd make some and advise
people to avoid it until it was done, we'd sell 2-3 pots per day when I
cooked it, if I didnt, it could sit a few days. We suggest various things
to avoid but more importantly we recommend things that we feel the
customer may enjoy and as long as you're not eating at some place like
applebee's then you should be receiving tips on the freshest and tastiest
foods the establishment has to offer
a waitron unit has a duty to his customers to keep them happy, part o that
is to ensure that all the food is maintained at the highest level of
quality, you have the first level which is your cooks, many dont give a
shit and have no pride in their work, they'll send the food to the pass,
the pass is the next level of quality control, usually it's someone that's
served as a cook and does take some pride in their job, if it passes their
inspection then it's usually fine but even they can fuck up so it's then
up to the waitron unit to ensure that the food is what the customer
ordered and that it's prepared properly and looks appealing, once it's on
the plate it's up to the customer to let us know if the food is suitable
for them and to correct any issues that they may have
the duties dont end there, from there we are responsible for cleaning up
the mess left by the patrons, a great server will pre bus the tables, no
one likes to have a conversation over an after dinner coffee or desert
while looking at a pile of dirty dishes, after you leave I thne have to
clean up your mess and that of your kids, the same kids you didnt keep
control of, the ones that threw food under the table, smeared it on the
wall or the seat and prepare the table for the next customer, now not only
do I have to do this with you and your guests, I have several other tables
that I have to handle, so now I have to make sure that each order it
placed in a timely manner and delivered to the right tables
and even still my duties dont end there, after all the customers have left
I have to sweep, mop, vacuum, stock stations and tables, audit my tickets
and let my kitchen staff know what my sales were like as well as how the
standards were kept and about the customer's satisfaction
I've never failed to be a top earner in any food service establishment
I've worked in because I've always know what I want in customer service
and I've never failed to deliver that service to my customers, I even
worked at a chain of diners that bounced me from location to location in
order to build sales and promote my brand of service and dedication to
quality, I've trained the front and the back of the house and I'm the one
waiter that never had an issue with getting in a cook's face or getting my
ass in the kitchen after closing and helping those fuckers go home before
2am, in a 10 hour day, 7 of those hours are tipped hours, the rest of
those are were at $3.25, a buck an hour over the other servers and that
check for $100 at the end of the week, that goes to taxes on my tips
now I understand that canadians and most of the world arent paid like the
wait staff in the US, that you guys get a standard hourly wage so tipping
really isnt necessary but in the US, the livelihood of a person in food
service is often dependent on tips
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It was a nice summer evening thunderstorm and we were out digging the lightning and the lovely evening. Eventually it was decided that some late night food was needed and shari's being one of the only restaurant choices was our prey. We had been indulging often of some sugar cubes that rolled into town. And my friend had just gotten an inheritance check not too long ago. He also has an all or nothing attitude with drugs that I am sure all of you have dealt with a person like that but it adds a bit to the story. Anyways, everybody was twisted to say the least.
So upon being seated at this restaurant is when this all begins. There's a couple off-duties in and my fried lets call him J. makes a little small talk with em. I can't really remember and it's not relevant so whatever heh. So the waitress brings the water and he proceeds to spill it all over the table. he then proceeds to empty the napkin dispenser and covers the table with them making a huge soppy wet napkin mess. Eventually thats cleaned up and placed in a cup overflowing with napkins. The waitress comes to take our order and commences to order something like this.
"uhhh ummm, Can i like get some fuckin' french toast, and uhhh some eggs?"
"how many eggs would you like?"
"uhhh, 2...3... no 4 fuckin' eggs scrambled and a berry pie." (nobody noticed the pie til after..)
anyways the food was eaten without any stir ups til it came time to pay. he recieved the bill and proceeded to pull out this huge wad of cash probably around 500-600 dollars and starts trying to count some money out for the waitress.
while he's waving this huge wad of cash around in the air like an idiot he decides to ask the waitress if "there's like anyway she could like hook us up with some free food y'know?"
after that's taken care of and he recieved his pie on the way home he was sitting in the back just demolishing this pie with both hands shoveling it into his face and trying to share it with everyone else.
needless to say the lulz were had and it was a good night
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i have to pay for all that shit too. but i am not going to belittle somebody in the process because they don't tip. sorry your a waiter dude and the system doesn't always weigh in your favor. but you don't know me and to call me a tool for not tipping makes me think your completely ignorant.
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Do you guys eat at waffle house and dennys every time you go out or something?
dont be busting on waffle house jack... many of the best cooks and servers
I've worked with worked for waffle house, I did 7 years with them and in
addition to building sales from $300/night to $800 per night on week nights
to $2300 on weekend nights, we also never scored under a 98 on any health
inspection at any store I worked in
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i have to pay for all that shit too. but i am not going to belittle somebody in the process because they don't tip. sorry your a waiter dude and the system doesn't always weigh in your favor. but you don't know me and to call me a tool for not tipping makes me think your completely ignorant.
you're instead going to belittle them because they work primarily for tips and you'd rather be cheap
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Me and my girl live up north, but were down in Florida visiting my grandparents last month.
We went into Waffle House one morning, cause it's right across the street from their condo and I get a jonesing for it, never being able to have it.
So we all sit down and the waitress asks my GF and my grandma if they are related, 'cause they have the same green eyes.
My girlfriend is black as night and my Gramma is an old white woman with freckles.
We were all like, "....."
Hashbrowns all the way though, for realz.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Lol I fucking love waffle house, I was just using that as an example of a place where I'm not expecting a lot of detailed service.
blood4blood
You don't know me either and if you are this upset over my thinking you a douche I think you have some bigger issues to work out than learning how to tip.
Anyway, I've got some friends in town so I'm off to dinner. hmmm to tip or not to tip?
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Trippin? Click Me
What is life? I'm tired of life...
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You make $3.25 for being a server in the states?  Thats pathetic. BTW nice attempt at trying to make being a server sound as difficult as possible 
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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That's about what my old roommate used to make as a delivery driver too.
But on weekends he pulled in like 15 bucks an hour, w/ tips.
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
I'm sure people have already chewed you out for this in the 7 pages of this thread, but I have to speak my mind here...
You're a douchebag! You obviously don't work in the industry, so you have no idea what it's like. Servers make their living off tips. They usually get paid minimum wage + tips.
If you ever came into my restaurant and didn't tip one of the servers, the next time we saw you in there you would get horrible service and you'd likely get your food fucked with.
What goes around comes around, and if you feel too high and mighty to leave a few dollars for the people who SERVED YOU, then fuck you buddy.
On topic: I usually tip 20% (pre-tax total), although I'll tip more if the service is great, and less if it's shitty. I make my money off tips so I know how it feels to get shafted
What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.
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So we all sit down and the waitress asks my GF and my grandma if they are related, 'cause they have the same green eyes.
My girlfriend is black as night and my Gramma is an old white woman with freckles.
lol... you know what's funny, I'm not an emotional guy but I had a couple
come in one day and they made me cry, it was a balck man and a white
woman, early 20s with a kid, they sat down and I got their order, and
instead of calling the cook from what ever he was doing I took care of it,
I was a better cook anyway, I served them their food, checked up on them
and when I went to deliver their check and tidy up the table the woman was
in tears
I asked her if I'd done something wrong and she said it was just the
opposite, that I was the first person in any restaurant that ever treated
them like people, that everywhere they went, regardless of the state,
people looked down on her for being married to a black man, the reason she
was crying is because she didnt feel she had enough money to leave me a
suitable tip for the service I provided. I told her that the tip wasnt
important and that the fact that they were satisfied with the food and
service was enough
I grew up in the south but racism wasnt something I was taught, I'd seen
it and even experienced it but for some reason what that girl said almost
sent me over the edge, the tears came when her husband hugged me before
they left... I've seen horrible things done to people in years prior and
what they said brought all of it out... it's the first time I had felt
like my time in service was really for the good of the people I was there
to help... not in waffle house but the army
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What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.
Say you go out to eat, your total bill is $50, is it really that hard to leave even $5?! I know $5 is only 10% but at least it's something. Where is your logic in this? If you didn't want to tip the server $5, you could walk to the kitchen and tell the cook what you want, then sit and wait for it to pop up in the window and carry it all to your table. Then every time you wanted another glass of soda or water you would have to get up and go get it. Then you can clear your own table too. I'm sorry but I'll pay $10 for this service and 99% of other people would too.
It is a very asshole move not to tip.
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What is life? I'm tired of life...
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You make $3.25 for being a server in the states? Thats pathetic. BTW nice attempt at trying to make being a server sound as difficult as possible
well it's not like canada, we arent all on the government dole down here, we
dont have the luxury of doing nothing and still collecting a check, we
actually have to work and believe it or not, being a server is a difficult job
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
I'm sure people have already chewed you out for this in the 7 pages of this thread, but I have to speak my mind here...
You're a douchebag! You obviously don't work in the industry, so you have no idea what it's like. Servers make their living off tips. They usually get paid minimum wage tips.
If you ever came into my restaurant and didn't tip one of the servers, the next time we saw you in there you would get horrible service and you'd likely get your food fucked with.
What goes around comes around, and if you feel too high and mighty to leave a few dollars for the people who SERVED YOU, then fuck you buddy.
On topic: I usually tip 20% (pre-tax total), although I'll tip more if the service is great, and less if it's shitty. I make my money off tips so I know how it feels to get shafted
What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.
There's a difference you can tell if people appreciated your service but can't afford to tip, don't you think it's worth it to reward them for putting in extra effort to give you an enjoyable time? I mean we could all just lallygag, but the good ones don't..same goes with any service position.
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What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.
I've never once tampered with anyone's food and I've ran a couple of people
out of the restaurant for doing shit like that, I've had regulars that came
in and only tipped a quarter every time and no one else would wait on them,
to me it doesnt matter what they have in their pocket or what I know they'll
tip, they all get the same service regardless because that is my job
what you need to ask yourself is, if you dont have enough money to leave a
tip in a place where tipping is customary, knowing the servers make less
than minimum wage and rely on those tips to pay their bills and feed their
kids, did you really have enough money to be going out and splurging on
food at a restaurant? if your budget is that tight, shouldnt you be at
home eating ramen noodles and saving your pennies?
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14110898 - 03/12/11 07:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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edit: btw pris that was an undeserved warning
incorrect... flaming is flaming and like with my service as a waiter, I strive for consistency
read the rules, abide by them and I wont boot you out like I did the cop that
couldnt read the sight that said 'no fire arms on premises'
"but I'm a cop"
"but leave your gun in the car or get the fuck out, them's the rules"
the cop was a dick about me being armed at 2am, I was legal
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14110909 - 03/12/11 07:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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15% if it's at an average restaurant. 20% if it's at a nicer one like Pf changs
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I usually tip about 20%. I usually go to the same restaurants pretty often (I live downtown), so it's worth it to me to have a good relationship with my servers. If I get hooked up (which I often do) then I tip more.
I'm always wondering what the real protocol is for tipping at places where you order at the counter. I don't tend to tip as much at those places, unless it's a really cute girl or something.
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man. i'm really surprised to see this thread has grown as much as it has whilst i was at work. honestly, i can't imagine there's much else to be argued beyond the point of "if you don't want to tip, order your food as take-out." plain and simple, man. very simple solution to a very simple problem.
don't be a dick and waste someone's precious time while they're on the job.
imo, there is no excuse to act otherwise. if you sit down, receive full service, then tip nothing, you are an asshole. period.
don't want to tip? don't accept the service. not fucking hard to comprehend.
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i tip not a dime. hate the stigma associated with tipping. why don't you tip the cooks, they're doing most the work?
ever tip anybody at a fast food joint? they bust their asses there when they get a rush of people.
Also servers have to tip out the hostess/food runner/ w/e so know that when you come in and run up even a $50 tab w/o tipping it actually COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE YOU.
If you don't like to tip order your food takeout.
wow! you brought me out some food, you deserve extra money
trust me, that doesn't happen everywhere. I have a lot of friends as servers and they dont have to do that and if they did they would lie about what they took in for tips. but of course, your the one honest guy in the world right?
and ill take my food any fucking way i like it! i am taking a large group of friends out to dinner later tonight and wont tip a cent! quite crying already or find a new job.
If that's how you feel, you should just cook your own food and serve it to yourself. Honestly, you're paying for them to make sure your meal is right, deal with the cooks when they fuck up as well as your dumbass thinking it's "the server's fault."
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
What if they can barely afford to treat themselves to dinner at your workplace, you still gonna fuck with there food and be a massive douchebag simply cause they cant afford to tip? The way you talk Im betting your service falls short of anything decent.
I guess you wouldn't know because you don't tip, but it usually occurs at the END of the meal.
People who don't tip receive the same service everybody else does, and I don't follow them out of the restaurant berating them.
I curse softly and move on.
It's baffling how vehemently you feel you have to defend your position to some anonymous on the internet 
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I do tip just not that often lately cause I have been tight on money. BTW I meant that for the next time they come around
What I dont get is your need to call people who dont feel like tipping you asshole's and all around tools. Not everyone out there cares to throw down a extra 15% for your services regardless of weather it was good or not.
Deal with it.
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Well here is my announcement to the world so there is no more confusion
If you don't tip, I think you are a tool.
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If you don't tip, I think you are a tool.
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if you can't afford to tip, then you can't afford to eat at the establishment
go cook at home or grab something at WackArnolds
if it's booze, then buy booze and drink elsewhere
if the service is absolute shit, register a complaint and leave nothing
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No ones wasting your time or money its your job to serve people, tips are a perk not a expectation. Then again I live in Canada and we arnt socially pressured to have to support needy broke ass students habits with tips.
You are an idiot. Do you think our servers are paid the same minimum wage as others? They aren't. And don't try to portray our culture as one that doesn't tip. If you don't tip, don't go out. Don't try to make it into anything other than you being a cheap fuck. Have fun with your 50$ red lobster dinners.
Anyone who understands food, and the food industry, understands tipping. The only people I can imagine not tipping are low-brow folk who wouldn't have the knowledge to even understand and appreciate good food, let alone good service.
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Thank you for noticing and from now on I think Ill leave piles of pennies as tips.
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How about this. If you cheap fucks don't want to pay for the service you receive, then try helping yourself next time you are out at a resto or the bar. See how fast the security tosses your ass out.
Seems fair if you are too cheap to tip for good service right?
On a side note, here in ontario I don't really watch what I tip. I've tipped up to 100% when at a pub I used to hit every night, it was newyears and I was a bit too done and dropped a pint glass and a server i often had, had to clean it up. I felt really bad, and she was already busting her ass, and was cool about it. So she deserved it. Most of the time I tell myself 15%, but normally it ends up to be 20% or so.
Some ethnic restos though i give shit tips, a lot just dont seem to get that in north america it isnt custom to bring the food out and then never acknowledge the customer. Good food, but 10% or so for the service. Even less for those times there is a problem with the food but the server doesn't come around to check.
Someone has told me, If service is bad, leave a bad tip a few percent. Leaving zero tip only shows the server you are cheap and can't afford the luxury of eating out anyways.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
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Yeah... I still read "tripping at restaurants" every time I see this thread.
Anyway, to those of you getting so aggravated over people who don't like tipping: take your complaint to your goddamn boss. Unionize or something. Shit man why are you holding us responsible for the shitty system you're working for that doesn't pay you enough to get by without relying on the charity of customers? That is fucked up, dude.
I always tip when I can but yeah, I don't feel like it's something I have to do.
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Tipping barely gets done here... you guys tip someone 10-30 percent of the bill?
HOLY SHIT AMERICA THE LAND OF FLYING COWS AND STREAMS OF HONEY 
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Beanhead]
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Tipping barely gets done here... you guys tip someone 10-30 percent of the bill?
HOLY SHIT AMERICA THE LAND OF FLYING COWS AND STREAMS OF HONEY
Yeah man, I've been reading about this in my comparative politics class. America is AMAZINGLY good at fucking over its wage workers and the whole union system is being dismantled as we speak, and it's treated in the media like it's not even a serious problem. People are so disconnected from any kind of awareness of their place in their systems it's mind-boggling.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Cynosure]
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What I don't agree with especially is that the ridiculously low hourly wage of a restaurant server is used to justify the "you must tip or you're a douchebag" paradigm. So it's the customer's responsibility to properly pay the employees, not the owner of the business?.. yeah fucking right.
Regardless I tip around 20% if the service is average to good. Less to none if it is terrible. I worked as a server before so I know what it is like to struggle for tips.
Nowadays I don't tip at all because I live in Europe and here servers are paid a normal living wage. All I do now is round up to the next Euro for easy whole number change.
Also, I first read tripping at restaurants too
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Yeah, you are being treated pretty unfairly. These people who work in the food industry are acting like because of people like you they are starving to death when in reality I bet they all make far above minimum wage. "Oh boo hoo my hourly wage is crap." Yeah? How much do you take home? And do you report all of your tips to the government?
This argument also that you are not entitled to service at a restaurant is also horse shit. The truth is that you are entitled. If you weren't, you would have to tip before being served. As it really is, waitstaff are not entitled to tips.
Let's face it. Waiting tables is UNSKILLED labor that anybody can do. The way everyone is acting in this thread you would think they would rather be paid minimum wage and have tipping abolished so that they can finally get what they deserve for what they do.
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if you can't afford to tip, then you can't afford to eat at the establishment
go cook at home or grab something at WackArnolds
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Tipping is an outdated way of trying to use the profit motive to ensure servers are helpful and polite. With the profit motive pretty much failing on all levels, servers really should be paid a normal wage. Considering how much of a shit job it is, they should get at least 10/hr.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: vinsue]
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Meh i don't tip.. if there is change ill give em that but they get paid to work... i don't get tips for working my ass off every day
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Yeah, you are being treated pretty unfairly. These people who work in the food industry are acting like because of people like you they are starving to death when in reality I bet they all make far above minimum wage. "Oh boo hoo my hourly wage is crap." Yeah? How much do you take home? And do you report all of your tips to the government?
This argument also that you are not entitled to service at a restaurant is also horse shit. The truth is that you are entitled. If you weren't, you would have to tip before being served. As it really is, waitstaff are not entitled to tips.
Let's face it. Waiting tables is UNSKILLED labor that anybody can do. The way everyone is acting in this thread you would think they would rather be paid minimum wage and have tipping abolished so that they can finally get what they deserve for what they do.
"I have to memorize a limited number of facts about our menu". Anybody with a GED can memorize shit. It doesn't make you special.
It's not the fact that it's difficult, it's the fact that they are providing a service. You walk in, sit down, and the rest is done for you. Do you tip your cab drivers? Or the bell boy at hotels? Again, a very simple job, but they provide a service to make your life easier. Therefore, you should show you appreciate that service by leaving a tip. It's not that hard, nor is it that much extra $$. Besides, I believe in karma, and since I make my money off tips, I always make sure to tip well because I know it will come back to me at some point, maybe even by the same person I tipped! You see, it's all about being a decent human being. Not a douche.
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Meh i don't tip.. if there is change ill give em that but they get paid to work... i don't get tips for working my ass off every day
If the job ain't paying enough get another job...
lolwut
you DO realize that servers work FOR tips, right? The employers don't pay jack shit.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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There are many people doing other jobs that provide a service but don't get tips for their work. I understand the profit motive for tipping, but I don't agree with taking peoples' wages down to the low just to make them work harder to make a normal living. Businesses should not underpay their employees and make them rely on tips. Tips should always be something a little extra for a job well done, not the basis for a worker's income.
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There are many people doing other jobs that provide a service but don't get tips for their work. I understand the profit motive for tipping, but I don't agree with taking peoples' wages down to the low just to make them work harder to make a normal living. Businesses should not underpay their employees and make them rely on tips. Tips should always be something a little extra for a job well done, not the basis for a worker's income.
exactly.. if someone does an outstanding job or is really nice i will tip em, but not for no reason.Quote:
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Meh i don't tip.. if there is change ill give em that but they get paid to work... i don't get tips for working my ass off every day
If the job ain't paying enough get another job...
lolwut
you DO realize that servers work FOR tips, right? The employers don't pay jack shit.
And finding a job isn't easy.
servers work for tips? lol. Pretty sure they work for the money they earn... sure the employers pay jack shit... that's why you find different work..
Sure it is hard to find a job, but I will not be spending my hard earned money working 12 hour days to give someone doing there job more money. As my year 9 art teacher told me tough titties.
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I wonder what legally allowed businesses to even pay their employees less than minimum wage on the books? There must be a law that allowed for this. It needs to be abolished. Forcing employees to depend on tips for basic source of income is wrong, even if it means they could be looking for another job.. There are always going to be people working in this sector.
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There are many people doing other jobs that provide a service but don't get tips for their work. I understand the profit motive for tipping, but I don't agree with taking peoples' wages down to the low just to make them work harder to make a normal living. Businesses should not underpay their employees and make them rely on tips. Tips should always be something a little extra for a job well done, not the basis for a worker's income.
A lot of places aren't allowed to legally take tips. I offer tips to people all the time, but sometimes they just can't accept them because it isn't taxable income. Whereas a server works for tips. I agree that wages should be increased, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tip. What makes you so high and mighty that you can't afford to tip, and why is it a big deal? Personally tipping makes me feel good, because I know that if I leave a server a fat tip, I'm really going to brighten their day, as well as give them a little extra cash. I would want someone to do the same for me, so I tip well.
If the service is really poor, then I will leave a weak tip, but if I walk into a super crowded restaurant and my server is attentive and on top of things and is polite, they're getting a fat tip. If you've ever worked as a server in an extremely crowded restaurant you would understand...there are a LOT of tables to tend to. A lot of orders, a lot of drinks, a lot of extra bullshit people request...
Like others have said before, if you can't afford to tip, then you can't afford to eat out in the first place. Nothing worse than a huge group of people with hella requests and a $100+ bill that only tips you $2
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This argument also that you are not entitled to service at a restaurant is also horse shit. The truth is that you are entitled. If you weren't, you would have to tip before being served. As it really is, waitstaff are not entitled to tips.
no. simply no. you are just wrong.
if you sit down and accept service, you are entering an agreement to pay he who serves you. the option to get take-out exists at every single restaurant. if you don't want to pay your server, then you order it as take out. plain and simple.
if you accept service and do not tip, you distinguish yourself as a social pariah and a fucking asshole.
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as a restaurant worker, it'd be fine to have fully compensated waiters, but expect the price difference on your bill
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This argument also that you are not entitled to service at a restaurant is also horse shit. The truth is that you are entitled. If you weren't, you would have to tip before being served. As it really is, waitstaff are not entitled to tips.
no. simply no. you are just wrong.
if you sit down and accept service, you are entering an agreement to pay he who serves you. the option to get take-out exists at every single restaurant. if you don't want to pay your server, then you order it as take out. plain and simple.
if you accept service and do not tip, you distinguish yourself as a social pariah and a fucking asshole.
You seriously need to wake up and get some fucking perspective dude.
I always tip, but I would not be a "douche" if I chose not to. I paid money for the food at this restaurant; that money isn't just for the raw ingredients, or the skills of the chef, but also for everybody else who works at the restaurant, including the servers. It's part of the damn package. Does your boss just keep you around on a leash expecting the customers to pay your entire wages? No, you are working at a job for a salary.
Again, I sympathize that you're not making enough money, but it's really fucked-up to blame that on the customers.
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BTW I worked as a barista/bar-back at a restaurant for a year and a half. I'm a seriously talented barista, I can make tulips in your goddamn latte, and nobody ever tipped me or gave me any fucking appreciation even though what I did took far more skill than taking trays to tables and putting on a fake smile. The servers were paid more base wages and took more in tip money, and not only that but they were huge assholes about it. I got such a kick of schadenfreude every time they came and pissed and moaned at me because somebody was stingy with tips.
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heh, 10 points for schadenfreude
leave it to the Germans to come up with a term for delighting in another's suffering
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BTW I worked as a barista/bar-back at a restaurant for a year and a half. I'm a seriously talented barista, I can make tulips in your goddamn latte, and nobody ever tipped me or gave me any fucking appreciation even though what I did took far more skill than taking trays to tables and putting on a fake smile. The servers were paid more base wages and took more in tip money, and not only that but they were huge assholes about it. I got such a kick of schadenfreude every time they came and pissed and moaned at me because somebody was stingy with tips.
dude I always tip at starbucks & other places that make coffee. Like I said, I will tip everywhere that can accept tips, because it's the decent thing to do and if someone performs a type of service for you and you don't tip, maybe you aren't a douche, but you sure as hell are a cheap bastard.
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No, I'm not a cheap bastard if I choose not to tip (even though I always do), I paid for your services with the bill.
Take it up with your boss.
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No, I'm not a cheap bastard if I choose not to tip (even though I always do), I paid for your services with the bill.
Take it up with your boss.
No you didn't, you paid for the food.
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
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i don't see how people still don't understand, tips = respect for the service, you enjoyed your meal? say thanks to your server because they enabled your pleasant meal.
you like your cocktail made just right? tip your bartender, you like to bitch about your shitty job/life/current problem? tip your bartender.
(you guessed it, bar tend here)
once you have lived off of tips you understand.
i think a lot of people have issues with tipping because they are unable to comprehend paying for something they can't own or consume.
proper tipping is essential for the service industry because without it no one would fucking care and you would be left without decent meals out.
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I've said it a million times already: not my problem. It's your boss's problem for not paying you enough.
Don't blame the customer for your job screwing you over. Seriously man, don't permit this.
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the industry is modeled after capitalism, you reward the people good at what they do, therefor you have talented, passionate staff that maintain i high quality level.
if the food industry changed that people would stop caring because they are making the same either way.
it isn't your problem but you willfully refusing to pay your part at the end of the meal only screws the serving staff.
go to corporate places like pannera bread where they made above minimum wage and don't accept tips.
what world do you live in that you think the service industry can afford to pay staff 10-25$per hour? you want a good price point and quality, reward the people who deliver it.
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I feel like I have to re peat in every post that I DO tip, but I don't feel obligated to tip, and it really grinds my gears when people act so entitled to something like that when I'm already paying their salaries with the bill.
It's just kinda messed-up is all. It makes me not want to tip anyone at all when people take it so for granted they don't appreciate it, they just get mad if they don't get it.
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I've said it a million times already: not my problem. It's your boss's problem for not paying you enough.
Don't blame the customer for your job screwing you over. Seriously man, don't permit this.
Get it through your head dude, that's just the WAY IT GOES. You KNOW this, therefore not tipping makes you cheap.
As a server you can say "hey boss, you aren't paying me enough" and he will say "ok thanks, someone will replace you".
Servers & Bartenders make their money on tips... for the trillionth time
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I've said it a million times already: not my problem. It's your boss's problem for not paying you enough.
Don't blame the customer for your job screwing you over. Seriously man, don't permit this.
Get it through your head dude, that's just the WAY IT GOES. You KNOW this, therefore not tipping makes you cheap.
As a server you can say "hey boss, you aren't paying me enough" and he will say "ok thanks, someone will replace you".
Servers & Bartenders make their money on tips... for the trillionth time
So stop whining about it, organize, form a union. My point is that it's not my fucking problem, don't take it out on me, it just makes you look like a greedy dick.
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I feel like I have to re peat in every post that I DO tip, but I don't feel obligated to tip, and it really grinds my gears when people act so entitled to something like that when I'm already paying their salaries with the bill.
It's just kinda messed-up is all. It makes me not want to tip anyone at all when people take it so for granted they don't appreciate it, they just get mad if they don't get it.
salaries? servers get paid hourly, that's not a salary, and you might pay part of their MEAGER wage, but if you don't tip, they wasted their time on your table while they could have been making money elsewhere. Like others have said, servers have to tip out the kitchen & bar staff at my restaurant, so your tip goes a lot farther than just the servers pocket.
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glad you tip man  i am sure your quality of going out reflects that. people who don't tip generally do receive worse service because that is how it works.
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That's also how they did it when I worked as a bartender at a restaurant.
I'm telling you man I'm not speaking as an outsider here, I've worked for tips too, but it's just fucked-up to guilt the customer who's already paying the restaurant for its services for not having the charity to enable you to pay your bills. Try to put things into perspective here. Give responsibility where it's due. You don't have to play along with this culture.
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
Hey fuck you too. I've been careful to say in every post I've made that I ALWAYS TIP. And you're STILL a dick about it. Holy shit dude.
The US is practically the only rich country where employers are allowed to get rich by paying their employees slave wages, and you're holding me, the one who's tipping you, responsible for this? WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR BRAIN?
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i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
Oooh look at you and your fancy restaurant gig. remember, you're just a waiter, pal.
Don't forget to come up for air every once in a while when dealing with your high-powered clientele
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This argument also that you are not entitled to service at a restaurant is also horse shit. The truth is that you are entitled. If you weren't, you would have to tip before being served. As it really is, waitstaff are not entitled to tips.
no. simply no. you are just wrong.
if you sit down and accept service, you are entering an agreement to pay he who serves you. the option to get take-out exists at every single restaurant. if you don't want to pay your server, then you order it as take out. plain and simple.
If you were entering into any sort of agreement upon getting your order taken and served to you then that 15% would automatically be tacked onto your bill as it stands tipping is a form of generosity, Its not our fault you guys let your selves get bent over and fucked in the ass by your employeers with this tip wage nonsense, and some people dont always feel like take out so its not that simple some people prefer to meet with there friends in the atmosphere of a restaurant rather then there own home.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917] 1
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Like I'm trying to say, you need to save your anger for the employer and the political system that have enabled this kind of assfucking you're describing. I'm just telling you not to play along with this bullshit culture and system, don't take your exploitation for granted. YOUR BOSS IS USING YOU TO GET RICH. I sympathize and I always give tips. I am on your side.
Write your congressman, get involved with other disgruntled servers over the Internet. Really, times are a-changing and if you don't take advantage of it then you're going to be a slave forever.
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
get another job you fucking baby. jeez....whaaaaa i dont get extra cash I dont deserve and dont report it to the government. I want more money for doing a job a kid with down syndrome and 5 dicks on his face can do. whaaaaa....fuck man...I would hate to see you in your career....whaaaa I am an IT professional and I want a tip for every letter I type on my keyboard...you are a joke
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791] 1
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
get another job you fucking baby. jeez....whaaaaa i dont get extra cash I dont deserve and dont report it to the government. I want more money for doing a job a kid with down syndrome and 5 dicks on his face can do. whaaaaa....fuck man...I would hate to see you in your career....whaaaa I am an IT professional and I want a tip for every letter I type on my keyboard...you are a joke
haha, glad so finally see some people on the boards with a sense of reason. I swear, some of the people on here, out of thousands of sperm i have no idea how they got to the egg first.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791]
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
get another job you fucking baby. jeez....whaaaaa i dont get extra cash I dont deserve and dont report it to the government. I want more money for doing a job a kid with down syndrome and 5 dicks on his face can do. whaaaaa....fuck man...I would hate to see you in your career....whaaaa I am an IT professional and I want a tip for every letter I type on my keyboard...you are a joke
like it's easy to just go out and get another job? especially when you've worked in the food industry for a while, and it's where your experience is, it's not exactly easy to just "get another job".
I'm just starting to bartend, and I'll likely have this job for the foreseeable future. I didn't go to college, and I've been doing construction work for most of my life. It's not like I can just get another job doing something that ISN'T tip-based, now that I'm bartending. I survive on tips. Is it hard for you to leave me a dollar or two if I made your drink for you? No, it's not, and you should feel GOOD about doing it because you're helping me out.
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Like I'm trying to say, you need to save your anger for the employer and the political system that have enabled this kind of assfucking you're describing. I'm just telling you not to play along with this bullshit culture and system, don't take your exploitation for granted. YOUR BOSS IS USING YOU TO GET RICH. I sympathize and I always give tips. I am on your side.
Write your congressman, get involved with other disgruntled servers over the Internet. Really, times are a-changing and if you don't take advantage of it then you're going to be a slave forever.
Direct your anger at the system your working for instead of the customers who arnt obligated to pay your wage. Meanwhile the boss is raking in the cash cause you let yourselves get exploited like some strungout whore, while you bitch and moan at the customers instead of the real problem.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791]
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Well for $2.35/hr.....I'd be wanting tips.
You should be working for minimum wage at least.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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I tend to tip more than nessesary. I ended up paying more of the tip than other people im eating with also. It sucks working and making like $3 an hour and the rest dependent on tips. If I dont get a refill or my food takes too long i wont tip at all (huddle house) lol
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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In virtually every other wealthy industrialized country, you will get paid a fair living wage if you work full-time, be able to pay for a home, get health care, eat well, etc.
You will notice that it doesn't lead to the collapse of civilization like the Republicans seem to think it will. Sweden is a very capitalistic country believe it or not, but they don't take their workers for granted and see to it that everybody lives comfortably.
We basically have a class of slave laborers in the US, raised from birth with the expectation and willingness to get fucked over by rich people who use them to get richer.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14115355 - 03/13/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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i haven't complained about my job at all. i love my job. i seriously fucking love it.
i love the exposure to new and varied cuisine. i love the opportunity to advance my knowledge of wine and spirits. i love getting to know better the practices that go into not only the creation of a dish, but the makings of quality ingredients. i'm not complaining.
but just because my customers are awesome and understanding, it doesn't excuse other people going out and stiffing the individuals waiting on them hand and foot. you say "oh, they can just find a new job." right, whatever. because jobs are just ripe for the pickin' easy as that.
man, it doesn't get any simpler than "if you don't want to pay for the service, don't accept the service". this is just a common courtesy so as to not waste a person's time at work.
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In virtually every other wealthy industrialized country, you will get paid a fair living wage if you work full-time, be able to pay for a home, get health care, eat well, etc.
You will notice that it doesn't lead to the collapse of civilization like the Republicans seem to think it will. Sweden is a very capitalistic country believe it or not, but they don't take their workers for granted and see to it that everybody lives comfortably.
We basically have a class of slave laborers in the US, raised from birth with the expectation and willingness to get fucked over by rich people who use them to get richer.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
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If I went to the supermarket and bought raw ingredients it would cost much less.
When I buy food at a restaurant, I am paying for both the ingredients and for the related services. The chef gets paid to cook, the floor scrubber gets paid to scrub, and you get paid to bring me my goddamned food.
Are you trying to tell me you don't get paid? Give me a fucking break.
You're not going to convince me that the tips I regularly pay don't represent generosity on my part.
$2.35/hr is my wage. i don't get paid salary, i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. and of that, i'll see maybe like a dollar per two weeks because of taxes being taken out.
my job is not uncommon in this regard. tipping in the service industry is such a deeply ingrained practice that the entire system is built around it from every possible bureaucratic angle. in almost every single state the minimum wage for servers is less than half of the standard minimum wage.
whatever. i've spoken reason to no end but it's like arguing with a rock.
i'm just glad i don't have to deal with such low-brow clientele at my job.
get another job you fucking baby. jeez....whaaaaa i dont get extra cash I dont deserve and dont report it to the government. I want more money for doing a job a kid with down syndrome and 5 dicks on his face can do. whaaaaa....fuck man...I would hate to see you in your career....whaaaa I am an IT professional and I want a tip for every letter I type on my keyboard...you are a joke
like it's easy to just go out and get another job? especially when you've worked in the food industry for a while, and it's where your experience is, it's not exactly easy to just "get another job".
I'm just starting to bartend, and I'll likely have this job for the foreseeable future. I didn't go to college, and I've been doing construction work for most of my life. It's not like I can just get another job doing something that ISN'T tip-based, now that I'm bartending. I survive on tips. Is it hard for you to leave me a dollar or two if I made your drink for you? No, it's not, and you should feel GOOD about doing it because you're helping me out.
I do tip asshole....I just can't stand idiots saying "If you do not tip you are a scumbag" or cheap e.t.c
It makes me not want to tip. What if I only have enough cash for the meal..what if your service sucks dog dick....what if you are just a douche and take your sweet ass time. Do you still think you deserve a tip? And it's not my problem you can't get a real job, you are in control of your life.....be a foreman or something since you are in construction...I don't fucking know...just don't blame other people.
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Demand a wage then, Its not up to use to be writing your cheques. Tips are purely a form of generosity. I cant stand people in the service industry who bitch about the customers when its the system thats the problem, your the one thats working for your boss for near sweatshop wages cause in your mind your convinced everyones obligated to tip you and your employers not there to pay you.
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It's good that you like your job and I'm not telling you to get another one, but you're describing an amazingly fucked-up culture where your employer gets the benefit of your service practically for free. Don't rage at people who don't like paying tips, rage at your fucking congressman, rage at the fucked-up union system we have in this country, make some changes so that you don't have to rage at the customers who have paid for the restaurant's food and services and don't feel obligated to pick up the restaurant owner's slack.
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I know at the restaurant where I worked the waiters were terrible, they would take forever and quite frequently be very snotty to the customers, but they'd still get their panties in a huge knot when they didn't get tips. In pretty much every other country of the world there is a natural and obvious understanding that tips are a BONUS reserved for EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
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If you were entering into any sort of agreement upon getting your order taken and served to you then that 15% would automatically be tacked onto your bill
that typically happens with a party of 6 or more and is becoming more
frequent in restaurants across the country with smaller groups
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tips are a BONUS reserved for EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
you're right, it's time that the 15-20% gratuity is added to the check that
way when you get shit service you have no say in the size of the tip, refuse
to pay for shit service and you land in jail
it happened to someone a few months ago near where I live
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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If you were entering into any sort of agreement upon getting your order taken and served to you then that 15% would automatically be tacked onto your bill
that typically happens with a party of 6 or more and is becoming more
frequent in restaurants across the country with smaller groups
Well there you go. Now if these servers would grow a brain and take precedence over there wage situation instead of the tips that mandatory slave server tax wouldnt be needed.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
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If you were entering into any sort of agreement upon getting your order taken and served to you then that 15% would automatically be tacked onto your bill
that typically happens with a party of 6 or more and is becoming more
frequent in restaurants across the country with smaller groups
Well there you go. Now if these servers would grow a brain and take precedence over there wage situation instead of the tips that mandatory slave server tax wouldnt be needed.
let us see how that backfires
http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=565934
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That's fucking retarded.
...Prisoner, I know you had a good excuse for Star Wars trivia, but Naruto forums now?
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man, i was never raging. i suppose it may have come across different than i had intended, but for the most part i've simply been trying to illustrate the way the system is and that servers are entirely dependent on tips. entirely.
maybe it's a fucked up system, but i don't see it changing anytime soon, despite how many letters i send to my congressman. in the meantime, this system is so deeply ingrained into the industry that there is no other alternative. so when someone doesn't tip, it directly and significantly impacts the people making living wages on tips in that establishment. yes, i do think that would make one an asshole.
again, the system shouldn't be like that, but it is. and within the bounds of reality, stiffing a server is a dick thing.
btw, bodhi, you don't live in the US, so i can't expect you to be accustomed to just how vital tips are in regards to an individual's income. but it's entirely different from europe, and most the rest of the world from what i understand.
anyway. i've said my piece. i don't think i could express my views any more clearly. it's your life, fellas. live it how you want. but don't act surprised or taken aback when someone makes a judgment of it.
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Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
you know what they say about assumptions
neither do I
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Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
No doubt, and they better have signs warning people of this. Nothing pisses me off more then some idiot holding his hand out for a tip and scowling at me when he doesnt get one, forcing one on me as I leave would piss me off even more.
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That's fucking retarded.
...Prisoner, I know you had a good excuse for Star Wars trivia, but Naruto forums now?
first google link
and yes, it's retarded but when the choice is out of your hands it can be a bit messier
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Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
No doubt, and they better have signs warning people of this. Nothing pisses me off more then some idiot holding his hand out for a tip and scowling at me when he doesnt get one, forcing one on me as I leave would piss me off even more.
Yeah, that would look fantastic hanging on the door, wouldn't it? "WAIT STAFF IS UNPAID"
Maybe we should try to get that legally required.
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it's your life, fellas. live it how you want. but don't act surprised or taken aback when someone makes a judgment of it.
this just shows how small minded you really are.
and how many letters have you actually written? Bitch at me and call me an asshole, like it's my fault you make a shitty wage.
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Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
No doubt, and they better have signs warning people of this. Nothing pisses me off more then some idiot holding his hand out for a tip and scowling at me when he doesnt get one, forcing one on me as I leave would piss me off even more.
so wait... you say dont force a the tipping crap on you but people should
be compensated by the employer whom would force you to tip by adding it to
your bill... it's common knowledge in the US that wait staff are low wage
employees, sure some arent aware but the majority are which is why the
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man, i was never raging. i suppose it may have come across different than i had intended, but for the most part i've simply been trying to illustrate the way the system is and that servers are entirely dependent on tips. entirely.
maybe it's a fucked up system, but i don't see it changing anytime soon, despite how many letters i send to my congressman. in the meantime, this system is so deeply ingrained into the industry that there is no other alternative. so when someone doesn't tip, it directly and significantly impacts the people making living wages on tips in that establishment. yes, i do think that would make one an asshole.
again, the system shouldn't be like that, but it is. and within the bounds of reality, stiffing a server is a dick thing.
btw, bodhi, you don't live in the US, so i can't expect you to be accustomed to just how vital tips are in regards to an individual's income. but it's entirely different from europe, and most the rest of the world from what i understand.
anyway. i've said my piece. i don't think i could express my views any more clearly. it's your life, fellas. live it how you want. but don't act surprised or taken aback when someone makes a judgment of it.
I just think it doesn't make the customer an asshole, it makes the employer an asshole.
Again. I always tip as much as I can. I sympathize. But it's a fucked-up state of affairs, and I do see a lot of rageful servers in this thread attacking anyone who's made the sadly mistaken assumption that business owners are required to pay their employees for their work.
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If you were entering into any sort of agreement upon getting your order taken and served to you then that 15% would automatically be tacked onto your bill
that typically happens with a party of 6 or more and is becoming more
frequent in restaurants across the country with smaller groups
Well there you go. Now if these servers would grow a brain and take precedence over there wage situation instead of the tips that mandatory slave server tax wouldnt be needed.
let us see how that backfires
http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=565934
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Who in future will be going to the Lehigh pub?
Because I won't.
Calling the cops on a customer refusing to pay a tip...What a excellent public relations move. And that is why no self respecting restaurant in Canada would pull that bullshit on a customer.
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blood4blood said:
Bitch at me and call me an asshole, like it's my fault you make a shitty wage.
isnt it though since you have knowledge that the wait staff is paid low wages
by the employer and depend on those tips, hell, the real beauty is if staff
really gets tired of it they can refuse to serve you as that's an option
every business in the US has
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Ballerium
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115580 - 03/13/11 06:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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The couple and their friends amassed a $73 bill that they had no problem paying, but the service was so poor that they refused to cough up the mandatory 18% tip. They say they waited almost an hour for chicken fingers and fries and Pope had to go to the bar to get napkins, silverware and refills on her soda because the server was missing in action.
Yeah, I think I have to side with those customers here. Who the fuck wants to shell out money for shitty service? Making tips mandatory is only going to cause more problems.
I always tip, but I agree with the people who are saying that there needs to be a change. This is a shitty system in the first place. The employer should pay the employees a living wage. I'm sure those restaurants make plenty of profit, they are just greedy bastards and the CEO's want to line their pockets with all that extra money.
I don't work in food service, but I work in retail and it made me sick to hear the CEO of my company makes nearly a million dollars a year. That's just too much damn money. It could go a long way to raise the wages of some deserving employees. I imagine it's similar for restaurants too, at least the corporate ones.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115592 - 03/13/11 06:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tchan909 said:
Maybe they should just always do that. If I go into a business establishment and there is a service staff, I sort of have the unspoken assumption that they are BEING PAID FOR THEIR WORK.
No doubt, and they better have signs warning people of this. Nothing pisses me off more then some idiot holding his hand out for a tip and scowling at me when he doesnt get one, forcing one on me as I leave would piss me off even more.
so wait... you say dont force a the tipping crap on you but people should
be compensated by the employer whom would force you to tip by adding it to
your bill... it's common knowledge in the US that wait staff are low wage
employees, sure some arent aware but the majority are which is why the
majority tip
That wouldnt happen thats bad for business your gonna lose a lot of customers that way and/or cause a lot of customers to be absolute dicks to the staff, and if boss has half a brain he is gonna uniformly hike all the prices up to compensate and give them a decent wage.
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Prisoner#1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Calling the cops on a customer refusing to pay a tip...What a excellent public relations move. And that is why no self respecting restaurant in Canada would pull that bullshit on a customer.
if it's on the check they're obligated and that one establishment isnt the only place that's adopted these policies, it's happened numerous times and obviously isnt hurting the businesses no matter what the arrestee claims is the reason for it
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/watercooler/story.aspx?storyid=118955&catid=82
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Time-In-Prison--70426052.html?yhp=1
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Ballerium]
#14115608 - 03/13/11 06:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ehhh.. not true at all. the average independent restaurant doesn't start turning a profit for at least 5 years.
you just have to keep doing what you can to make progress and hope that the investors don't lose interest. no idea what it's like for the corporations though. i haven't any association with them.
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Prisoner#1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
if boss has half a brain he is gonna uniformly hike all the prices up to compensate and give them a decent wage.
obviously none in the US have half a brain since it's not happened
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115622 - 03/13/11 06:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Calling the cops on a customer refusing to pay a tip...What a excellent public relations move. And that is why no self respecting restaurant in Canada would pull that bullshit on a customer.
if it's on the check they're obligated and that one establishment isnt the only place that's adopted these policies, it's happened numerous times and obviously isnt hurting the businesses no matter what the arrestee claims is the reason for it
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/watercooler/story.aspx?storyid=118955&catid=82
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Time-In-Prison--70426052.html?yhp=1
And you know that how?
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Ballerium
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
ehhh.. not true at all. the average independent restaurant doesn't start turning a profit for at least 5 years.
you just have to keep doing what you can to make progress and hope that the investors don't lose interest. no idea what it's like for the corporations though. i haven't any association with them.
Yeah, I guess I should have clarified better. I was more or less talking about chain restaurants (Olive Garden, Longhorn, etc.). Corporations are greedy bastards, and I would bet that those restaurant corporations aren't any different.
I feel for the independently owned restaurants though.
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Prisoner#1
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
ehhh.. not true at all. the average independent restaurant doesn't start turning a profit for at least 5 years.
90% of them fold in the first 5 years
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Prisoner#1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Calling the cops on a customer refusing to pay a tip...What a excellent public relations move. And that is why no self respecting restaurant in Canada would pull that bullshit on a customer.
if it's on the check they're obligated and that one establishment isnt the only place that's adopted these policies, it's happened numerous times and obviously isnt hurting the businesses no matter what the arrestee claims is the reason for it
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/watercooler/story.aspx?storyid=118955&catid=82
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Time-In-Prison--70426052.html?yhp=1
And you know that how?
because as I said, it happened locally several months ago, bitch was
raising hell, had the cops called, was arrested and the crowd cheered
that restaurant stays busy even in the recession
regular patrons will always frequent their favorite places, people who
occasionally go out to these places typically arent aware of events like
this and most dont care, most see the tip added to the bill and pay it,
many still leave additional cash
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115725 - 03/13/11 06:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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God some people are so dumb, it's not the servers fault for expecting a tip after they bust their ass to give promptness and quality, it's your fellow customers who demand this so when we work harder than we have to to deliver a great dining experience you should want to reciprocate and if you don't then hey that's cool too just don't expect the same level of quality that others are willing to pay for in the future. Luckily for servers though, non-tippers are a slim minority.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115763 - 03/13/11 06:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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tipping for me and for anyone should be completely relative to the service that was experienced, I'm not going to tip 35% to a front of the house that is disorganized chaotic and just down right retarded, infact if things aren't together and the server is lacking in skills that make it necessary to be alive then I may not tip at all. But if the server makes sure everything is great and without being too nosey or overly enthusiastic then hell yeah I'll tip 25% maybe and if the food is great and the beer is cold perhaps I'll throw more monies and maybe a doob or two.
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 Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14115804 - 03/13/11 06:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never worked in the food service industry, but if some clown stiffed me out of a tip after I waited on them and their date to the tune of 30 - $40 (or more), and left nothing, and then said A- hole comes back in in a few weeks or so and expects good service, guess what ? They just might get some special sauce in their meal  ... Kids, take care of your bartender and wait staff because they take care of you ... . . .
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At restaurants - I would say it all depends on service. If they are friendly, refill drinks, and come to check often it would be 20-25%. However, if they are slow & bad service 5-10%. If they are rude 0%.
I used to be a delivery driver and it would make me so mad when people didn't tip. Its like you're doing them a favor for nothing in return. "Oh thanks for rushing here to bring me food, I just don't care enough to give you a dollar or two for the trouble."
At risk of seeming racist (which I am not) I feel like the majority of black people will not tip whites well - if at all for "reparations". It's like they use their race to get out of tipping - sickening. (From my experience in the Southeast - I don't know about up North or out West)
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: w1llyw0nka]
#14115875 - 03/13/11 07:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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w1llyw0nka said:
At risk of seeming racist (which I am not) I feel like the majority of black people will not tip whites well - if at all for "reparations". It's like they use their race to get out of tipping - sickening. (From my experience in the Southeast - I don't know about up North or out West)
Using the race card to get out of tipping? 
reparations???
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I totally thought the tittle said tripping in restaurants lmfao. Aside that, I have a friend who goes both ways. Some times for no reason he'l refuses to tip. Other times, if he's in a good mood, he will leave a fat amount. I go by the % or if the service was good I leave some what more if i can afford it.
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depends on the place, sometimes ill go to a cheaper resturaunt and spend 25$ between 2 people, normally ill till 5$ in that situation.
The higher the bill, the lower the % of tip i give, like if tis only 10$, ill tip 4$ or w/e.
also depends on how much cash i have on me etc
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: w1llyw0nka] 1
#14115995 - 03/13/11 07:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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w1llyw0nka said:
At risk of seeming racist (which I am not) I feel like the majority of black people will not tip whites well - if at all for "reparations". It's like they use their race to get out of tipping - sickening. (From my experience in the Southeast - I don't know about up North or out West)
strange... I've heard that blacks, mexicans and kids dont tip, this has not
been my experience, in fact I got a big tip from some black men after I
booted their bitchy wives who wanted their meals on to go plates, I handed
them the boxes, pointed at the sign that said 'to-go' meals shall be eaten
off premises
those guys appreciated the break from the constant nagging of the chicken heads
never had an issue with any ethnicity and tipping, blacks are generous
when they're treated right, mexicans appreciate prompt and courteous
service, I've even gotten tips from church groups
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Anthony917
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: esp0791]
#14116173 - 03/13/11 08:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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esp0791 said:
I do tip asshole....I just can't stand idiots saying "If you do not tip you are a scumbag" or cheap e.t.c
It makes me not want to tip. What if I only have enough cash for the meal..what if your service sucks dog dick....what if you are just a douche and take your sweet ass time. Do you still think you deserve a tip? And it's not my problem you can't get a real job, you are in control of your life.....be a foreman or something since you are in construction...I don't fucking know...just don't blame other people.
You are cheap if you don't tip. I've already said many times that if I receive shitty service I will leave a shitty tip, but people who don't tip at all, ever?
I have a real job, and make good money but that's because I get tipped!
It is common courtesy and no you don't HAVE to, of course not, but you SHOULD because what goes around comes around and being a dick and not tipping is low.
I'm not directing this at you, just saying in general.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14116184 - 03/13/11 08:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont think anyone here is a cheap cunt who never tips, what were bitching at you servers for is you calling us tools for not giving you tips everysingle time we come into a restaurant to eat. Since when did a common courtesy become a obligation.
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Anthony917
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont think anyone here is a cheap cunt who never tips, what were bitching at you servers for is you calling us tools for not giving you tips everysingle time we come into a restaurant to eat. Jesus fuck since when did a common courtesy become a obligation.
If you get good service and don't tip, you are a tool.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14116198 - 03/13/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anthony917 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont think anyone here is a cheap cunt who never tips, what were bitching at you servers for is you calling us tools for not giving you tips everysingle time we come into a restaurant to eat. Jesus fuck since when did a common courtesy become a obligation.
If you get good service and don't tip, you are a tool.
And if you fail at even being able to give proper service and earn your tips at a restaurant you should just go head and thin out the gene pool.
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Anthony917
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Anthony917 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont think anyone here is a cheap cunt who never tips, what were bitching at you servers for is you calling us tools for not giving you tips everysingle time we come into a restaurant to eat. Jesus fuck since when did a common courtesy become a obligation.
If you get good service and don't tip, you are a tool.
And if you fail at even being able to give proper service and earn your tips at a restaurant you should just go head and thin out the gene pool.
well right, we're agreeing here...so...
there ARE people who receive good service and stiff waitresses and bartenders though. I've seen it happen many times and it's just lame.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14116251 - 03/13/11 08:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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in japan, its considered rude to tip as your basically telling the waiter/waitress that his/her service wasn't good and the extra money is given to compensate their bad service. ever since i traveled to japan, i rarely ever tip here in the states.
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Anthony917
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: mr.711]
#14116254 - 03/13/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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mr.711 said:
in japan, its considered rude to tip as your basically telling the waiter/waitress that his/her service wasn't good and the extra money is given to compensate their bad service. ever since i traveled to japan, i rarely ever tip here in the states.
well that's a horrible way to base whether or not you tip. Two completely different worlds my friend.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14116265 - 03/13/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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every time i read this threads title i see "tripping in restaurants" instead of "tipping in restaurants"
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: mr.711]
#14116274 - 03/13/11 08:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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mr.711 said:
in japan, its considered rude to tip as your basically telling the waiter/waitress that his/her service wasn't good and the extra money is given to compensate their bad service. ever since i traveled to japan, i rarely ever tip here in the states.
which makes you a dick now that you're back, not culturally enlightened
Some restaurant in Hawaii got a class action suit for adding on a surcharge to Japanese tourists to make up for their lack of tipping.
Yet cops are still allowed to profile.
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Re: Tipping at restaurants. [Re: Anthony917]
#14116277 - 03/13/11 08:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anthony917 said:
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mr.711 said:
in japan, its considered rude to tip as your basically telling the waiter/waitress that his/her service wasn't good and the extra money is given to compensate their bad service. ever since i traveled to japan, i rarely ever tip here in the states.
well that's a horrible way to base whether or not you tip. Two completely different worlds my friend.
yeah i know. plus i'm a poor college student, so that's another reason why i rarely tip unless the service is excellent.
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