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Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus
#14104777 - 03/11/11 04:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow. Let me get this straight.
This is a guy who OPPOSES abortion in all cases. Just so everyone remembers that. He is adamantly anti-choice.
Alright, so he's bitching at a member of the Obama administration, because while she's "pro-choice" (scoff!) when it comes to whether or not you're forced to birth and raise another human being, she doesn't believe in the human right to install a low-efficiency toilet. HYPOCRISY!!11 YOU AIN'T PRO CHOICE NOW ARE YA!!11 (even though the flip side of his analogy would seem to be that he allows no toilets at all...)
He thinks that flushing "ten times" (eat more fiber, dude!) is just as bad as being forced to carry around, oh let's say, your rapist's baby* for nine months. And he is the de facto head of the Tea Party.
Yeah, this movement is gonna go far.
*Recall, according to Sen. Paul, your rapist's fetus is no less exalted than your husband's; it seems a fitting example.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: jimbotron]
#14104887 - 03/11/11 04:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rand Paul is against abortion, this is correct. He doesn't want the state involved with abortion. He feels it is a moral, family issue, that should be handled by free individuals and it is not the government's job to dictate these matters or morals.
Even though he is anti abortion, he wouldn't take away the right of an individual to have an abortion. Persuasion should be used to stop an individual from aborting, not a law. That was his argument against the light bulb regulation. An individual should dictate whether they want an abortion or what light bulbs to buy.
So the lady is not consistent in her logic. She is pro choice when it comes to abortion but anti choice when its with light bulbs and toilets.
This is coming form a guy that thinks governments, police, and politicians need to disappear. I am against capitalism, which Rand Paul protects and advocates. I am not a tea party guy, or a right winger.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: jimbotron]
#14104942 - 03/11/11 05:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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There seems to be a rampant inability to comprehend the difference between believing that somebody shouldn't do something and wanting to use force or the threat of force to prevent somebody from doing it.
A lot of people think that laws exist for the purpose of enforcing their worldview on everyone else. In a free society, persuasion, debate, and encouragement are used as incentives to affect other people's behaviors, not laws.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: jimbotron]
#14105131 - 03/11/11 05:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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jimbotron said:
Wow. Let me get this straight.
This is a guy who OPPOSES abortion in all cases. Just so everyone remembers that. He is adamantly anti-choice.
Alright, so he's bitching at a member of the Obama administration, because while she's "pro-choice" (scoff!) when it comes to whether or not you're forced to birth and raise another human being, she doesn't believe in the human right to install a low-efficiency toilet. HYPOCRISY!!11 YOU AIN'T PRO CHOICE NOW ARE YA!!11 (even though the flip side of his analogy would seem to be that he allows no toilets at all...)
He thinks that flushing "ten times" (eat more fiber, dude!) is just as bad as being forced to carry around, oh let's say, your rapist's baby* for nine months. And he is the de facto head of the Tea Party.
Yeah, this movement is gonna go far.
*Recall, according to Sen. Paul, your rapist's fetus is no less exalted than your husband's; it seems a fitting example.
Is the rapist's fetus more or less guilty of a crime than Bernie Madoff's? What if your husband is David Berkowitz or John Wayne Gacy or Jared Loughner, famous Tea Party Killer? Does it have fewer rights than Jesus'? Gandhi's? You sound like a eugenisist
And you are, as per usual, utterly oblivious to the facts regarding toilets. It isn't that you can't install a low flush toilet. You must install a low flush toilet. And they fucking suck. Coming soon; mandatory brain toxin light bulbs, guaranteed to destroy little fetal brains.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: jimbotron]
#14107667 - 03/12/11 06:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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jimbotron said: Wow. Let me get this straight.
then maybe you should start on the same planet since he's not discussing abortions
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: jimbotron]
#14109034 - 03/12/11 01:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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He should have been B& for being off-topic.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#14109384 - 03/12/11 02:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rand Paul is against abortion, this is correct. He doesn't want the state involved with abortion. He feels it is a moral, family issue, that should be handled by free individuals and it is not the government's job to dictate these matters or morals.
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A lot of people think that laws exist for the purpose of enforcing their worldview on everyone else. In a free society, persuasion, debate, and encouragement are used as incentives to affect other people's behaviors, not laws.
Sounds nice, but its bullshit. Both parties dont have a great track record concerning imposing of laws to dictate our personal behaviors.
On February 25, 2005, a Pinellas County judge ordered the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Several appeals and federal government intervention followed, which included U.S. President George W. Bush returning to Washington D.C. to sign legislation designed to keep her alive.
So wheres the family issue, personal medical issues to be decided by those other than in govt. etc. etc. bs. As a matter of fact Bush's first veto was to block stem cell research.
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You sound like a eugenisist
Is that a bad thing? If the gov. closes all the inner city abortion clinics, you gonna care for all the unwanted negros? Its only pennies on the dollar concerning all the costs with future incarceration, welfare, special ed., and the violence they most likely will perform on innocent victims in their neighborhoods. I think we should let the free market decide, either we all pay millions for the care of unwanted children or perhaps we can actually make money selling the fetus' for research.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: Therian]
#14109519 - 03/12/11 03:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Therian said:
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Rand Paul is against abortion, this is correct. He doesn't want the state involved with abortion. He feels it is a moral, family issue, that should be handled by free individuals and it is not the government's job to dictate these matters or morals.
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A lot of people think that laws exist for the purpose of enforcing their worldview on everyone else. In a free society, persuasion, debate, and encouragement are used as incentives to affect other people's behaviors, not laws.
Sounds nice, but its bullshit. Both parties dont have a great track record concerning imposing of laws to dictate our personal behaviors.
On February 25, 2005, a Pinellas County judge ordered the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Several appeals and federal government intervention followed, which included U.S. President George W. Bush returning to Washington D.C. to sign legislation designed to keep her alive.
So wheres the family issue, personal medical issues to be decided by those other than in govt. etc. etc. bs. As a matter of fact Bush's first veto was to block stem cell research.
Not paying for something is not the same as forbidding it. Quote:
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You sound like a eugenisist
Is that a bad thing? If the gov. closes all the inner city abortion clinics, you gonna care for all the unwanted negros? Its only pennies on the dollar concerning all the costs with future incarceration, welfare, special ed., and the violence they most likely will perform on innocent victims in their neighborhoods. I think we should let the free market decide, either we all pay millions for the care of unwanted children or perhaps we can actually make money selling the fetus' for research.
Are you shitting me?
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: Therian]
#14109530 - 03/12/11 03:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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There seems to be a rampant inability to comprehend the difference between believing that somebody shouldn't do something and wanting to use force or the threat of force to prevent somebody from doing it.
Yes and no, legalizing something does mean that it will happen or will be morally permissible, my high school did state that was abortion was emergency contraception, not murder . Thus there was no question of morality. this is just the liberal mindset of law and education, a perverted version of youth right is inevitable.
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Is the rapist's fetus more or less guilty of a crime than Bernie Madoff's? What if your husband is David Berkowitz or John Wayne Gacy or Jared Loughner, famous Tea Party Killer? Does it have fewer rights than Jesus'? Gandhi's? You sound like a eugenisist
And you are, as per usual, utterly oblivious to the facts regarding toilets. It isn't that you can't install a low flush toilet. You must install a low flush toilet. And they fucking suck. Coming soon; mandatory brain toxin light bulbs, guaranteed to destroy little fetal brains.
meh is that collectivistic? invidivualistic? traditional? progressive? the left and the right totally blows, we need a real society where our kids don't fuck so early but ageism/sexism doesn't prevent our youth from exploring their sexuality. the real problem is exactly that we have a shitty and violent society because of people who enforced their ideas of material progress at whatever cost. Not so many people of the so called 'working' class or whatever class that represents the people would favor material wealth over spiritual wealth, that is psychological well-being, less crime, nicer people, smarter people, as opposed to criminality being a gray line in politics , being an asshole is being a warrior, and the smartest are censored while the boot-lickers are on our television.
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: communeart]
#14109664 - 03/12/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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communeart said:
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Is the rapist's fetus more or less guilty of a crime than Bernie Madoff's? What if your husband is David Berkowitz or John Wayne Gacy or Jared Loughner, famous Tea Party Killer? Does it have fewer rights than Jesus'? Gandhi's? You sound like a eugenisist
And you are, as per usual, utterly oblivious to the facts regarding toilets. It isn't that you can't install a low flush toilet. You must install a low flush toilet. And they fucking suck. Coming soon; mandatory brain toxin light bulbs, guaranteed to destroy little fetal brains.
meh is that collectivistic? invidivualistic? traditional? progressive?
No it is just mindlessly meddlesome.Quote:
the left and the right totally blows, we need a real society where our kids don't fuck so early but ageism/sexism doesn't prevent our youth from exploring their sexuality.
We need a society that discourages early sexuality but doesn't discourage it? Quote:
the real problem is exactly that we have a shitty and violent society because of people who enforced their ideas of material progress at whatever cost.
Nobody enforces their idea of material progress. You can always opt the fuck out.Quote:
Not so many people of the so called 'working' class or whatever class that represents the people would favor material wealth over spiritual wealth, that is psychological well-being, less crime, nicer people, smarter people, as opposed to criminality being a gray line in politics , being an asshole is being a warrior, and the smartest are censored while the boot-lickers are on our television.
1. There is no such thing as spirit 2. Psychological well being is an individual responsibility 3. Less crime is associated with greater material wealth, though there are wealthy criminals 4. Nice people are boring 5. You cannot make people smarter 6. There will always be gray lines of criminality 7. Nobody is censored 8. It isn't your television
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Re: Rand Paul: My Feces = Your Fetus [Re: Therian]
#14111661 - 03/12/11 09:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Therian said:
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Rand Paul is against abortion, this is correct. He doesn't want the state involved with abortion. He feels it is a moral, family issue, that should be handled by free individuals and it is not the government's job to dictate these matters or morals.
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A lot of people think that laws exist for the purpose of enforcing their worldview on everyone else. In a free society, persuasion, debate, and encouragement are used as incentives to affect other people's behaviors, not laws.
Sounds nice, but its bullshit. Both parties dont have a great track record concerning imposing of laws to dictate our personal behaviors.
On February 25, 2005, a Pinellas County judge ordered the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Several appeals and federal government intervention followed, which included U.S. President George W. Bush returning to Washington D.C. to sign legislation designed to keep her alive.
So wheres the family issue, personal medical issues to be decided by those other than in govt. etc. etc. bs. As a matter of fact Bush's first veto was to block stem cell research.
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You sound like a eugenisist
Is that a bad thing? If the gov. closes all the inner city abortion clinics, you gonna care for all the unwanted negros? Its only pennies on the dollar concerning all the costs with future incarceration, welfare, special ed., and the violence they most likely will perform on innocent victims in their neighborhoods. I think we should let the free market decide, either we all pay millions for the care of unwanted children or perhaps we can actually make money selling the fetus' for research.
Who are "both parties" that you speak of, and wtf does Bush have to do with this?
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