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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14093724 - 03/09/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I did not mean sacrifice as in military service really, just an overall sacrifice, they must keep their interests as a group down in order to keep the nation strong. they must fight for their rights as well, but the attitude should not be one of individualistic hedonism that people such as you are clearly encouraging, i do not really mean to blame the gay community either, really it is a capitalist ideology and school of thought which inevitably influence people in real life and it does end up influencing homosexuals as they rebel against the church and thus tend to joke about the sacred.

My argument is that capitalist individualist society uses those oppressed groups and falsely promises them a world without persecution, a world where they are just the same as everyone while in reality they have to live with the way they were born. In reality most homosexuals would listen to what i have to say and find it an unusual discourse but would accept my arguments as they very well know that satisfying their sexuality is not done in the exact same way socially etc.

This is the same as the poor, they are very well willing to sacrifice themselves for a greater goal, and so will the homosexuals, the woman and the youth, only if you give them an honest speech instead of manipulating their sadness.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14093839 - 03/09/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

joke about the sacred.

What's sacred about a made up God?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14093978 - 03/09/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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What's sacred about a made up God?



by trying to break a taboo you just turned this made up god into a sacred thing.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14094012 - 03/09/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I did not mean sacrifice as in military service really, just an overall sacrifice, they must keep their interests as a group down in order to keep the nation strong. they must fight for their rights as well, but the attitude should not be one of individualistic hedonism that people such as you are clearly encouraging, i do not really mean to blame the gay community either, really it is a capitalist ideology and school of thought which inevitably influence people in real life and it does end up influencing homosexuals as they rebel against the church and thus tend to joke about the sacred.

My argument is that capitalist individualist society uses those oppressed groups and falsely promises them a world without persecution, a world where they are just the same as everyone while in reality they have to live with the way they were born. In reality most homosexuals would listen to what i have to say and find it an unusual discourse but would accept my arguments as they very well know that satisfying their sexuality is not done in the exact same way socially etc.

This is the same as the poor, they are very well willing to sacrifice themselves for a greater goal, and so will the homosexuals, the woman and the youth, only if you give them an honest speech instead of manipulating their sadness.



Quoted for posterity.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14094039 - 03/09/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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What's sacred about a made up God?



by trying to break a taboo you just turned this made up god into a sacred thing.




I didn't do anything of the sort. The ignorance of others did that.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14094112 - 03/09/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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What's sacred about a made up God?



by trying to break a taboo you just turned this made up god into a sacred thing.



What taboo?  Against assailing muhammed as a pedophile murder encouraging dog humper?  That aint no taboo in my culture.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14096236 - 03/10/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

When did you get a culture?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14098686 - 03/10/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Their intent is to convert people to Islam and use Islamic law all around the world, not in the US alone.  The threat of that actually happening in the US is low, our future is going to be a catholic/secular Hispanic one.  But Europe is sure a prime target.  They import Muslims as fast as they can, and Muslim majorities in Europe are the future.  Islamic law is a valid threat for Europe over the next couple hundred years.  I hope the future Muslim, European citizens embrace secularism, but I'm not convinced they will.





In the same way that Christianity is a threat to much of the world. Take a look at history.





Ahh, sweet truth.  Muslims are mostly peaceful, but it is a fact that, at this point in time, most violent extremists are muslim by religion.  There are different reasons for this, but it is the case. 

Is it an intrinsic part of Islam or just a part of the cultures there?  Idk.  But I do know that you would have to look hard for a violent Protestant, Catholic or Budhhist extremist group.  Make what you will of these facts, but they are facts. 

As an Atheist living happily with people of various faiths I feel like I can look at this in a relatively objective manner.  As a side note all of the Jews/Christians/Muslims/Atheists I know don't express any desire to force their religion on others.  I think when people are Americanized they learn not to think like that.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: natural medicine]
    #14098744 - 03/10/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It seems to me that most religious hatred goes underground when confronted directly or when world opinion is strong against it.  There are more subtle methods of getting the job done.

But of course it's true that Christianity did most of it's amazing amounts of dirty work in the past as far as outright murder, torture, stealing and such.  What bothers me is that once it's in the past for many it's like it never happened and the guy doing it now should be wiped off the face of the earth when the exact same thing should have been done to all the nastiness we were involved in. Fortunately or unfortunately there was no one around to do it.  It just seems a little hypocritical to me. :shrug:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14104094 - 03/11/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Ahh, sweet truth.  Muslims are mostly peaceful, but it is a fact that, at this point in time, most violent extremists are muslim by religion.  There are different reasons for this, but it is the case.

Is it an intrinsic part of Islam or just a part of the cultures there?  Idk.  But I do know that you would have to look hard for a violent Protestant, Catholic or Budhhist extremist group.  Make what you will of these facts, but they are facts.

As an Atheist living happily with people of various faiths I feel like I can look at this in a relatively objective manner.  As a side note all of the Jews/Christians/Muslims/Atheists I know don't express any desire to force their religion on others.  I think when people are Americanized they learn not to think like that.




False, they are atheist and thus hide behind freemasonic morality as they broke christianity. The murderer always get his point across in history.

Your ideas could not be more imperialist, under the pretense that the violence and extremism is not done under the same type of codified recognized evil of our time that our past generation had to face, and never saw it coming in time. Torture was legalized, you have no idea just how much people suffered as a result of this legal classification.

You do not even recognize the violence in your own society but know very well those of others, you should respect the leaders of other countries taking care of their own terrorist but then again you listen to your own leaders when it comes to fear mongering. The united states invested heavily against the iranian revolution. http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=44706 now iran is investing heavily

We have to ask ourselves, are we naive or did i just read Hillary Clinton call the government of Iran a bunch of losers with few friends and that she is going to do everything in her power to keep their influence at bay. isn't she quite a bitch? why can't both government naively communicate their ideas/arguments as to why they think their form of governement is best for the people there, cause it's about the people not the ressources right? This is what is constantly going on with the united states, constantly trying to freeze communications and buy all the tv time for their propaganda, then do more sanctions etc. it's constantly aggressive and constantly trying to influence and hurt other nations . it's a total pain in the ass to manoeuver in any sort of way when you are a country like Iran, this is the whole dissuasion and why others don't follow suit in rebellions.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14104096 - 03/11/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mubarek isn't the one who made peace with Israel, Sadat was.  The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated him for it.




we are talking about the blockade, beside mubarrack instaured an anti-drug dictatorship for yeras in order to seize whatever goods he felt like all the time. how is that not fucking fishy.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14104262 - 03/11/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Pretty much every country in the world has drug prohibition.  And they have laws against arms trafficking.  But they haven't all almost completely shut down borders.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14104317 - 03/11/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes but exactly, mubarak's emergency or martial laws were totally out of nowhere and for no reason, you would have to be a fool to believe it has nothing to do with israel, even if just psychologically soldiers will be able or more justified to search things.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14104328 - 03/11/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes but exactly, mubarak's emergency or martial laws were totally out of nowhere and for no reason, you would have to be a fool to believe it has nothing to do with israel, even if just psychologically soldiers will be able or more justified to search things.



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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14104344 - 03/11/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_Mubarak#Emergency_law_rule

they are under emergency law since 1967, Nasser put those rules in place in order to streamline the opposition to israel and western powers. why are those rules still in place? the government does not support elections it is even under emergency law, something very different than even a dictatorship!! the new world order of alex jones is constantly under emergency law, 1984 is constantly under emergency law. how can you even justify that.

they used drugs to justify that dictatorship by the way.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14104363 - 03/11/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_Mubarak#Emergency_law_rule

they are under emergency law since 1967, Nasser put those rules in place in order to streamline the opposition to israel and western powers. why are those rules still in place? the government does not support elections it is even under emergency law, something very different than even a dictatorship!! the new world order of alex jones is constantly under emergency law, 1984 is constantly under emergency law. how can you even justify that.

they used drugs to justify that dictatorship by the way.



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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14104488 - 03/11/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

boy are your teeth rotten.

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