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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14094450 - 03/09/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You pulled a reverse Michael Jackson?
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: deCypher] 1
#14094515 - 03/09/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm ill like that.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid] 1
#14098365 - 03/10/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: andrewss]
#14100253 - 03/10/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used to be a social animal. Then I took drugs, started meditating, and moved down the different path from everybody else. Now, I have my few select group of friends and substances to keep me happy.
Now, I can't keep small talk for shit. I don't meet people, and I'm completely happy not listening to them. I tried to be social, went to the house parties, always met new people, texted people to see if they wanted to hang out, but after about 2 months of being out of school, working, looking for friends, I just gave up. People suck dude. The stupid bull shit they spew, they take everything so personally. Its all crap.
I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion, and that's why I am now so anti-social. Its great if you're social, but I'd much rather have close friends, that I can invite over, chief down /whatever other drug, and have an intellectual conversation with. I've lost my social aspect.
I can still play it off, act like I care about the weather and want to talk about it with you, etc, but its all bullshit.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14100612 - 03/10/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: People suck dude. The stupid bull shit they spew, they take everything so personally. Its all crap.
You just haven't met people who you are sufficiently compatible with; just because you've only hung out with sucky people doesn't mean that all people are sucky.
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Joolz said: I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion...
What point would that be?
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14100655 - 03/10/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: People suck dude. The stupid bull shit they spew, they take everything so personally. Its all crap.
You just haven't met people who you are sufficiently compatible with; just because you've only hung out with sucky people doesn't mean that all people are sucky.
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irie.one said: I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion...
What point would that be?
Oh, trust me, I know that there are people out there I get along with. I threw out generalizations and stereotypes, but I don't believe them the majority. I know that each situation is its own situation, and there is no "blanketing" that can ever happen without exceptions.
The point, imo, is to enjoy and live in the now, whether it is good or bad, because you only have now and that now is not forever.
Edit: Gonna go watch the US's only media voice of reason (aka Daily Show/Colbert Report). I may be back later, till then, stay classy Shroomery.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14100891 - 03/10/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: The point, imo, is to enjoy and live in the now, whether it is good or bad, because you only have now and that now is not forever.
And what indicates to you that these people don't do that? Why does "chasing bullshit" have to mean that they don't live in the now?
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14101372 - 03/10/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: The point, imo, is to enjoy and live in the now, whether it is good or bad, because you only have now and that now is not forever.
And what indicates to you that these people don't do that? Why does "chasing bullshit" have to mean that they don't live in the now?
Well, I was speaking in terms of what I've seen in my family. These people don't live in the now. They don't look at a tree and think of the amazing complexity, and beauty. They don't see the sunset. Hell, they don't even wake up with a happy face. They work their jobs, go to church, and live their entire lives thinking that this is just the previews at the start of a movie, and it will all start when they close their eyes on Earth for the last time.
Bullshit, imo.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14101393 - 03/10/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: The point, imo, is to enjoy and live in the now, whether it is good or bad, because you only have now and that now is not forever.
And what indicates to you that these people don't do that? Why does "chasing bullshit" have to mean that they don't live in the now?
Well, I was speaking in terms of what I've seen in my family. These people don't live in the now. They don't look at a tree and think of the amazing complexity, and beauty. They don't see the sunset.
So you think the point of their lives is to do all that, even though none of it interests them? 
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Joolz said: Hell, they don't even wake up with a happy face. They work their jobs, go to church, and live their entire lives thinking that this is just the previews at the start of a movie, and it will all start when they close their eyes on Earth for the last time.
Bullshit, imo.
I agree it's bullshit; I also think the concept of the "point" of life is bullshit.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14101440 - 03/10/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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My only point in life is to enjoy it, and they aren't doing that. If they don't want to look at the sunset, then they don't have to, but are you going to argue that some people WANT to be born into a religion that dangles a treat and goes "here boy, come get the treat"?
Edit: We must also look at their lives. I know they mean well, I really do. I know most of the people in my parent's church really believed that stuff, they were great people, and they believed in the heaven they want to go to. They were very polite, generous, always happy to help, etc. I just wish we could teach ourselves to be happy, nice, generous people without the use of religion. Its the middle man, keeping people from their drug, happiness.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14101451 - 03/10/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: My only point in life is to enjoy it, and they aren't doing that.
How do you know this?
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I'm sure every religious person wants that.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14101473 - 03/10/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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irie.one said: I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion...
What point would that be?
Ugh Poid, you did that thing again .
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Joolz said: I used to be a social animal. Then I took drugs, started meditating, and moved down the different path from everybody else. Now, I have my few select group of friends and substances to keep me happy.
Now, I can't keep small talk for shit. I don't meet people, and I'm completely happy not listening to them. I tried to be social, went to the house parties, always met new people, texted people to see if they wanted to hang out, but after about 2 months of being out of school, working, looking for friends, I just gave up. People suck dude. The stupid bull shit they spew, they take everything so personally. Its all crap.
I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion, and that's why I am now so anti-social. Its great if you're social, but I'd much rather have close friends, that I can invite over, chief down /whatever other drug, and have an intellectual conversation with. I've lost my social aspect.
I can still play it off, act like I care about the weather and want to talk about it with you, etc, but its all bullshit.
I used to be just like that, and had a social change like that too. It used to interest me to be social, meet new people, etc., because I subconsciously thought that's what everyone my age does and this is what we do for fun, and it kind of was for a while. For me the change occurred because, after discovering something more interesting in my life (the inner workings of my mind), other things soon bored me. I wasn't aware of the infinite capabilities of the mind before that. I also thought I was incapable of love, deeply close asexual relationships with friends, and so many other things about myself that I was absolutely certain I would never experience. When discoveries like these are made, it's not out of the ordinary to re-prioritize your interests and cut uninteresting things out of your life, like parties and meaningless small talk. Just like when a guy meets a girl he's crazy about and suddenly he loses interest in everything but her because she's more interesting to him than anything else is. Wanting to form closer relationships and have deep intellectual conversations with people doesn't necessarily mean that anyone who can't do those things sucks. Perhaps it's just a sign that you are an intellegent being (more so than others), and that you've got different things you'd like to use your limited time on Earth doing.
It's a bit elitist to write humanity off like that just because not everyone is like you. To them, they're also on their own journey "following the flow and enjoying life," don't forget that. What they're doing in their life is just as important to them as what you're doing in your life is to you.
And you certainly are still a social animal. Just because it's not at the same magnitude that it was previously doesn't mean you're void of all social capabilities. Having close relationships with people is just as social, if not more so, as having shallow relationships with random party-goers.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with how you changed your focus on life, but don't make it seem as though everyone who hasn't done what you did is inferior to you.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: irie.one]
#14101484 - 03/10/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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irie.one said: I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion...
What point would that be?
Ugh Poid, you did that thing again .
Damn, I need to pay more attention; maybe it's the lack of weed I've been experiencing these past couple of days that's causing me to do this...
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14101506 - 03/10/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can just feel it. These people have made up the problems in their lives. They're following a code, not free spirited, feeling like they're being graded everywhere they go. Nobody should find that fun.
^^ and I see where you're coming from. Thank you for that ray of knowledge that just passed through my head, I appreciate it. Like I said earlier, I know that I threw out generalizations and stereotypes and wasn't fair. I let my anger of my family and their (my opinion) stubborn views and let it flow to my fingers as I typed that.
My main issue is everybody sticking their fingers into everything, and Christians have always been awesome at that.
And I've always been told by teachers and adults (when I was younger, nobody says this anymore cause I'm so drugged up and standoffish) that I was smart. I always played it off though. I don't like being bragged about. I just wanna do my own thing over here in the corner, so look away. 
I've been on the internet too long. I was raised on this shit. My fingers hardly ever even stop to ask my brain what to write next, they just gooooooooooo.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14101537 - 03/10/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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These people have made up the problems in their lives.
I hope you're including yourself in the "they" group
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Kickle]
#14101543 - 03/10/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: I can just feel it.
Oh, can you read their minds as well? 
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Joolz said: These people have made up the problems in their lives.
We all know how rare it is for people to do this. 
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Joolz said: They're following a code...
You're following a code as well, you think that appreciating nature is the point (read: code) of life.
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Joolz said: ...not free spirited, feeling like they're being graded everywhere they go. Nobody should find that fun.
But do they?
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Joolz said: And I've always been told by teachers and adults (when I was younger, nobody says this anymore cause I'm so drugged up and standoffish) that I was smart. I always played it off though. I don't like being bragged about. I just wanna do my own thing over here in the corner, so look away. 
That's kind of like me, I don't really know how to accept compliments sometimes. 
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Joolz said: I've been on the internet too long. I was raised on this shit. My fingers hardly ever even stop to ask my brain what to write next, they just gooooooooooo.
How old are you?
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Kickle said: These people have made up the problems in their lives.
I hope you're including yourself in the "they" group 
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14101569 - 03/10/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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irie.one said: I'm here to follow the flow and enjoy life. These people are off chasing bullshit, and missing the whole "point" in my opinion...
What point would that be?
Ugh Poid, you did that thing again .
Damn, I need to pay more attention; maybe it's the lack of weed I've been experiencing these past couple of days that's causing me to do this...
Oh no, we can't have that... This freshly packed bowl waiting patiently on my nightstand to be consumed is dedicated to you my friend .
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Joolz said: I can just feel it. These people have made up the problems in their lives. They're following a code, not free spirited, feeling like they're being graded everywhere they go. Nobody should find that fun.
^^ and I see where you're coming from. Thank you for that ray of knowledge that just passed through my head, I appreciate it. Like I said earlier, I know that I threw out generalizations and stereotypes and wasn't fair. I let my anger of my family and their (my opinion) stubborn views and let it flow to my fingers as I typed that.
My main issue is everybody sticking their fingers into everything, and Christians have always been awesome at that.
And I've always been told by teachers and adults (when I was younger, nobody says this anymore cause I'm so drugged up and standoffish) that I was smart. I always played it off though. I don't like being bragged about. I just wanna do my own thing over here in the corner, so look away. 
I've been on the internet too long. I was raised on this shit. My fingers hardly ever even stop to ask my brain what to write next, they just gooooooooooo.
No worries man, happens to the best of us .
I can see where you're coming from about how you don't understand how nobody should find that fun. I try to be open-minded and non-judgmental about it though and feel fortunate that I am able to experience this type of enlightenment. I don't feel sorry for them, they're in their own type of bliss to some degree and I respect that. Those ultra-religious people nearly have a hernia trying to figure out how people like me don't believe in God, it's kind of the same thing. That said, I still hate it when people get in my business about my religious beliefs too, it's incredibly disrespectful. However I'm able to shrug it off pretty easily, they're just doing their thing, no harm done, and I understand where they're coming from. It's about the best way I can think to handle it .
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: irie.one]
#14101676 - 03/10/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh no, we can't have that... This freshly packed bowl waiting patiently on my nightstand to be consumed is dedicated to you my friend .
How kind of you.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Poid]
#14102241 - 03/11/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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^^ Religion just hits a nerve because its part of the reason I don't like my family. Its not their religion specifically, its that they only listen to that religion and say everything is the devil's tongue in their ear. 
^ This freshly rolled, friend's home indoor grown weed (not great, definitely pretty good though, and I get ounces for 20 bucks!!!!!!!) goes to you.
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Re: Humans are naturally social animals. [Re: Joolz]
#14102257 - 03/11/11 02:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Joolz said: ^^ Religion just hits a nerve because its part of the reason I don't like my family. Its not their religion specifically, its that they only listen to that religion and say everything is the devil's tongue in their ear. 
Hey man, I can sorta relate; my maternal uncles are complete fanatics when it comes to Catholicism, I don't even really visit or talk to them anymore. They treat my mother like crap for not sharing their beliefs, and it pisses me off. I'm a bit luckier than you though in that neither of my immediate family members are religious retards, I don't think I would be able to handle it really well if they were.
I honestly feel real bad that this is your life situation, I wish there were something I could say to change it, it must be tough. 
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Joolz said: ^ This freshly rolled, friend's home indoor grown weed (not great, definitely pretty good though, and I get ounces for 20 bucks!!!!!!!) goes to you. 
Wow, ounces for $20? 
I would make so much hash...
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