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Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate?
    #14089341 - 03/08/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Should I add some yeast or seaweed stuff to my sub or would less be more, since I have read posts that the extra nutrients and some say that say they pin to reproduce because they are running out of food in ideal climate for reproduction. I don't know who to believe, lets have a debate.

Supposedly they draw energy from light but then why do they grow mostly at night?

I am nocing 6 quarts the day after tomorrow and I would really like to add some more nutes for the pinset they are gonna push.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14089381 - 03/08/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:wayshegoes:

Gypsum and used coffee grinds are the only 'nutes' you need to add to a sub.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14089470 - 03/08/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Seaweed makes a pretty good bulk substrate additive, but it should be dried first, and then re-moistened before use. I used to pick it up by the truckload when I lived on the coast. Beer, even if you boil it to remove the alcohol, doesn't help.  I've tried it in several ways, and every time performance was less than without.

Pinning has nothing at all to do with running out of 'nutes'.

Mushrooms derive energy from light, and yes, they also do most of their growth during the dark cycle.  Those are two facts.  Why it is, can only be speculated at this stage.  Plants do the same thing, so perhaps there's an as yet unknown common denominator.
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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14089488 - 03/08/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What is your deal? Why can't you follow a tek?


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14091548 - 03/09/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am following a tek, just built my mono, made some lids with a GE hole and self healing port, and got some rye and gypsum soaking for tomorrow, I was just wondering if anyone had tried beer and I got my answer. The only reason I was wondering is because I have seen somone add brewers yeast and malt before. I will definitely be following this tek to a T though.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14091573 - 03/09/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The only reason I was wondering is because I have seen somone add brewers yeast and malt before. I will definitely be following this tek to a T though.




Don't confuse agar with substrates.  You don't add malt or yeast to grains or bulk substrates.
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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14091600 - 03/09/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am going with damion's 50/50 for bulk sub and I am using your rye berry tek, except I added a self healing inoc hole with the red high temp RTV.

I decided not to case after your good advice, now that I know cubes don't need casing. I will also be following your squeezing method to test my bulk sub for field capacity.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14091620 - 03/09/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was planning on putting the mono into a big black garbage bag, but I think keeping it in my dark closet will keep it from getting too much FAE. Should I use a bag for the first 10 days of colonization or is it not really necessary as long as it is in a closet with no moving air?


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14091651 - 03/09/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

placing your mono inside a bag is old outdated info

just tape up your holes, the lid doesn't fit on tight so it allows good GE

also they dont need to be stored in darkness.

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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: biologys]
    #14091671 - 03/09/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was just going to store them in the dark closet to keep them from getting any FAE from the heater, people walking by, when my gf turns on the ceiling fan etc. My closet has a stale air smell to it so would it be better to leave the door open or is it just important to let out the Co2 and not important to have non moving fresh air to exchange it with?


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14091686 - 03/09/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

im not going to speak on that, cause of the great debate between allowing some fae for faster colonization..

i'm testing the method right now for myself to see which works faster/better for me.

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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: biologys]
    #14091721 - 03/09/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with Bio...

Tape the holes up and ditch the trash bag... Its unnecessary and light is proven to be beneficial...

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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: shroomtastic89]
    #14101327 - 03/10/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to not use a trash bag, just tape the outside with duct tape to the top of the sub and then stand the trayless bulk onto one side with light on both top and bottom from the sides of the tub. Suspend it at an angle from corner to corner with a strip of tyvek with stretched with some tightness towards the middle of the tub suspending it from both of the bottom strips with the strings tied at the corner on the opposite side where the top one is tied. Glue something that perlite would stick to and then put a layer of that in between the perlite and the 100% colonized bulk fruiting conditions on both sides.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14101363 - 03/10/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what in the world..you're making it way harder then it should be.

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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: biologys]
    #14101403 - 03/10/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, I admire your enthusiasm but sometimes I honestly think you're :trolldance: because you can't just do a simple grow. You say you're following the tek to a T, but then you want to do.... whatever the fuck you just said. You've barely had a successful PF grow, and now you want to add yeast, seaweed, and suspend your bulk from a sex swing! Just mix your spawn and coir when its ready, sit it in the tub till its colonized. Expose to light and FAE. K.I.S.S. for fucks sake!:awesurprise:


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: biologys]
    #14101437 - 03/10/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

make sure you don't forget the tub ingnitor switch cord plug tape from top lid angle for the mix...


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #14101521 - 03/10/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Dude, I admire your enthusiasm but sometimes I honestly think you're :trolldance: because you can't just do a simple grow. You say you're following the tek to a T, but then you want to do.... whatever the fuck you just said. You've barely had a successful PF grow, and now you want to add yeast, seaweed, and suspend your bulk from a sex swing! Just mix your spawn and coir when its ready, sit it in the tub till its colonized. Expose to light and FAE. K.I.S.S. for fucks sake!:awesurprise:




I would have to show you a picture, my drawing/dringking skills are not too good right now, my drinking skills are fine...don't worry. it would work, put a wet glob of verm and some perlite between the piece of tyvek and the tray, tie a string to the strip of tyvek and suspend it from the top of the FC from all four corners by criss crossing the top places where it was duct taped. Then it would fruit from all sides. Might have to be done in greenhouse or have a humidifier since it would have airflow on both top and bottom. It would be better if you used an aluminum tray size then you could do two in one SGFC. :rofl:


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14101541 - 03/10/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:laugh2: Dude just reread this thread when your sober... Trust us, whatever you're planning most likely will fail and is honestly not worth the effort. Refer to my earlier post about what you should do.


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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: biologys]
    #14101694 - 03/10/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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biologys said:
what in the world..you're making it way harder then it should be.




I agree.  Enigma has been a cool contributor, but when I saw the post,
without seeing who it was, I thought that it was your basic troll.
(a combination of outdated teks combined)

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Re: Yeasty beer added to sub and let the alcohol evaporate? [Re: Javadog]
    #14101830 - 03/11/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have seen one done standing on its side and it fruited both top and bottom at same time


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