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I just did a pill of X for the first time
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It's nice but overrated.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14100727 - 03/10/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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uhh
take 3 more
problem solved
but yeah the $/experience ratio isn't exactly up there.
xanax is way betterer
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams] 3
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congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc] 1
#14100736 - 03/10/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FeedingMyDreams said: It's nice but overrated.
You either didn't do enough, or you got something that wasn't MDA/MDMA
It's the fucking bees knees
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pfxtc said: uhh
take 3 more
problem solved
but yeah the $/experience ratio isn't exactly up there.
xanax is way betterer
Xanax does absolutely nothing for me recreationally... WTF? You are saying Xanax > MDMA? No way dude Ecstasy is the fucking shit
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100737 - 03/10/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You either didn't take enough, or there was no MDMA in your 'X' pill.
EDIT: Said EXACTLY the same thing as me 3 seconds earlier
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100741 - 03/10/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
Exactly what ellen said. Pure MDMA is basically pure euphoria. In fact there is NOTHING quite like it. Unfortunately ecstasy pills lots of times contain no MDMA at all, instead contain pipes, DXM, ketamine, etc. Even lots of times "mdma powder" is actually pipes. Trust me its one of those things you do not realize what its like till you experience and then you know ALL OF A SUDDEN this is what it is. Like a K Hole or Ego death.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100744 - 03/10/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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most rolls i did i had to take way more than 1 to really feel anythang.
sometimes u get lucky and get really good ones, but yeah most of the time they are garbage.
best to stick with molly if u wanna do them mdma thhangs
but mdma is definitely not overrated.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100748 - 03/10/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just took the second pill. We'll see how things go.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14100749 - 03/10/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've never tried PURE MDMA,
probably taken ~30 ecstasy pills though.
It never really did a whole lot, I mean sure you get all touchy feely and your eyes dance in the inside of your head, but it just seems like such a fake drug. Everyone loves each other, but when the drug wears off, it's just a bunch of depressed zombies.
Not my thing. Xanax kicks ass. Only done it once, but I loooooved it.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14100752 - 03/10/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes it really sux that something so pure, unifying, and beautiful had to fall into the hands of madd-chemist profiteers
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100756 - 03/10/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm feeling weird already.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14100760 - 03/10/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FeedingMyDreams said: I'm feeling weird already.
step 3 :
crush up 2 MORE pills
snort them
you'll be rubbing the carpet and drop kicking couches (yeah) in no time
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14100765 - 03/10/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, call me after you take some molly brother, then tell me what you think!!
Yeah, call me after you take some molly brother, then tell me what you think!!


PS: Also, the experience can be infinitely better if you do the pill with just a few (1 - 3) REALLY close friends or one amazing girl. Set and setting an' all that.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100770 - 03/10/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: I've never tried PURE MDMA,
probably taken ~30 ecstasy pills though.
It never really did a whole lot, I mean sure you get all touchy feely and your eyes dance in the inside of your head, but it just seems like such a fake drug. Everyone loves each other, but when the drug wears off, it's just a bunch of depressed zombies.
Not my thing. Xanax kicks ass. Only done it once, but I loooooved it.
Thats why you have weed / xanax / opiates afterwards
and I never feel bad unless I took too much or have been doing it too often. I always feel fucking fantastic if I take it like once every 3 months even after the roll is gone... its all about that serotonin and dopamine baby, we're just a whole buncha chemicals
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100772 - 03/10/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said:
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FeedingMyDreams said: I'm feeling weird already.
step 3 :
crush up 2 MORE pills
snort them
you'll be rubbing the carpet and drop kicking couches (yeah) in no time
I only got two pills.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100774 - 03/10/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it's almost chemically impossible to have an inadequate time on some legit ecstacy. If it's your first time, it should be one of the best times of your life; especially if good music and friends are involved.
And just because we're sharing... I just did an opana. ohhh ya.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100775 - 03/10/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
QFT. Quality MDMA is the tits
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Todcasil]
#14100776 - 03/10/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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But never with 2-3 girls who have boyfriends (that might not be there)
tension stirs!
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100778 - 03/10/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: yes it really sux that something so pure, unifying, and beautiful had to fall into the hands of madd-chemist profiteers 
Don't blame the chemists. Supply and demand. Without the chemists there wouldn't be any E at all. And IME it's not that expensive. The blame rests solely on the shoulders of our government.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Todcasil]
#14100784 - 03/10/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MDMA makes me want to kill myself.
i dont like to feel that happy then CRASH. fuuuck that shit. felt like i had no serotonin left at all... not a pleasant feeling. im done with stimulants. (adderall, MDMA, cocaine)
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100786 - 03/10/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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with pure or really good quality MDMA i normally dont get hangover or become a depressed zombie like with Tablets. usually im ecstatic for days talking about how profound of an experience it was. after having such a profound experience, even talking to the people i have shared it with to this day i still get butterflies and a slight placebo feeling LoL
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100788 - 03/10/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey, you're only allowed to do what you allow yourself to do!
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14100792 - 03/10/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What kind of pills are they?
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Todcasil]
#14100793 - 03/10/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what's fun is taking a ton of E on a friday night
then a ton of DXM or any other drug that acts on seratonin
the receptors will be so drained that the drug will just flood everything
it "fucks" you up.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: F0SS1L]
#14100800 - 03/10/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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F0SS1L said: Don't blame the chemists.
i said the "madd-chemist's" just to clarify
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100805 - 03/10/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: with pure or really good quality MDMA i normally dont get hangover or become a depressed zombie like with Tablets. usually im ecstatic for days talking about how profound of an experience it was. after having such a profound experience, even talking to the people i have shared it with to this day i still get butterflies and a slight placebo feeling LoL
Ellen I did not know you liked MDMA -- thats awesome 
And yeah with pure MDMA / good quality you don't get that crash.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100813 - 03/10/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm doing okay. I'm like a poor man's version of Charlie Sheen.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100815 - 03/10/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: but it just seems like such a fake drug..
yeah this is kinda why i don't really care for it.
The feeling is great, but the euphoria from DMT is infinitely better IMO, but that can be a hit or miss. a bad experience on DMT is really lol
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100822 - 03/10/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: with pure or really good quality MDMA i normally dont get hangover or become a depressed zombie like with Tablets. usually im ecstatic for days talking about how profound of an experience it was. after having such a profound experience, even talking to the people i have shared it with to this day i still get butterflies and a slight placebo feeling LoL
the time im referring to was from what i was told by friends who know the stuff, that it was some of the best theyve had.
took some, didnt kick in for hours. then smoked some bud and rolled my ass off for 2 hours and then passed out. but while i was rolling my emotions were so up and down and all around. it went from me wanting to fuck like crazy (and i was alone when it kicked in...) to me wanting to kill myself right there in that moment. it was insane. i felt amazing, but my mind was fucked. that shit made me feel EXTREMELY bipolar.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
#14100823 - 03/10/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said:
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F0SS1L said: Don't blame the chemists.
i said the "madd-chemist's" just to clarify 
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14100831 - 03/10/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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omg i used to rave & roll every to every other weekend for a good 2 and a half years, next to oxy/heroin, its my true love! but i got sick of being spiked with RC's and god knows what else. and all my trusted connects ended up in jail. so ellen no RoLL no more
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14100832 - 03/10/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I AM SWIM said:
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pfxtc said: but it just seems like such a fake drug..
yeah this is kinda why i don't really care for it.
The feeling is great, but the euphoria from DMT is infinitely better IMO, but that can be a hit or miss. a bad experience on DMT is really lol
DMT is like Universes above every other drug but maybe mushrooms.
I've yet to have a bad DMT experience, it just doesn't seem possible. Like I get terrified or whatever, but then I realize I'm so scared because my entire body is trembling in orgasmic revelation, and it's just so much.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14100840 - 03/10/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
Exactly what ellen said. Pure MDMA is basically pure euphoria. In fact there is NOTHING quite like it. Unfortunately ecstasy pills lots of times contain no MDMA at all, instead contain pipes, DXM, ketamine, etc. Even lots of times "mdma powder" is actually pipes. Trust me its one of those things you do not realize what its like till you experience and then you know ALL OF A SUDDEN this is what it is. Like a K Hole or Ego death.
You watch your mouth when you're talking about pure euphoria. I think opiates > MDMA in that category.
Opiates are however significantly more difficult to use responsibly.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Humility]
#14100846 - 03/10/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Never really done opiates cept painkillers like hydrocodone & percaset
didn't really impress me.
had a chance to do heroin but declined, looking back I probaby would have done it.
I'd like some pure opium though, that'd be cool.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100869 - 03/10/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: what's fun is taking a ton of E on a friday night
then a ton of DXM or any other drug that acts on seratonin
the receptors will be so drained that the drug will just flood everything
it "fucks" you up.
That doesn't sound right at all.
MDMA causes your neurons to release large amounts of serotonin into the synapses. This does two things - it drains your neurons of serotonin, and it also downregulates your serotonin receptors, making them less sensitive to the serotonin that is there.
Because of this, you should have a tolerance to all other serotonergic drugs, not a sensitivity. DXM releases some serotonin, but since your neurons are drained, there isn't too much to release. But that's its only real action on serotonin. DXM's main activity is on the glutamate receptors.
Now maybe what you say is true, but it's not for the reason you say it is. Your glutamate receptors and your serotonin receptors have very dependent activity, and they affect each other in a lot of ways that aren't very well understood. If DXM works better, it's because of some sort of complex interaction between the glutamate receptors and the serotonin receptors, not because the drug is "flooding everything"
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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No way guize. The euphoria with opiates, DMT or anything does not compare to some good MDMA. They don't call it ecstacy for nothin'.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14100896 - 03/10/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said:
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I AM SWIM said:
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pfxtc said: but it just seems like such a fake drug..
yeah this is kinda why i don't really care for it.
The feeling is great, but the euphoria from DMT is infinitely better IMO, but that can be a hit or miss. a bad experience on DMT is really lol
DMT is like Universes above every other drug but maybe mushrooms.
I've yet to have a bad DMT experience, it just doesn't seem possible. Like I get terrified or whatever, but then I realize I'm so scared because my entire body is trembling in orgasmic revelation, and it's just so much.
ive had some bad and not so good DMT experiences.
if i get a HUGE hit of DMT (breakthrough dose) i cant help but feel like im "holding on" and my grip is slowly loosening... (although i suppose thats kinda the fun part of DMT) then i realize how badly i feel like im going to throw up, while the most intense psychedelic shit is going on all around me, and i am EXTREMELY aware of everything. not fun to throw up or be on the verge of throwing up while peaking on DMT.
even after having as much experience with it as i do, ive had some extremely overwhelming and uncomfortable experiences that took quite a while to really come down from.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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FACT: Vaped DMT Euphoria > IV heroin+hydromorphone Euphoria
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
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ellenallien said: congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
Exactly what ellen said. Pure MDMA is basically pure euphoria. In fact there is NOTHING quite like it. Unfortunately ecstasy pills lots of times contain no MDMA at all, instead contain pipes, DXM, ketamine, etc. Even lots of times "mdma powder" is actually pipes. Trust me its one of those things you do not realize what its like till you experience and then you know ALL OF A SUDDEN this is what it is. Like a K Hole or Ego death.
You watch your mouth when you're talking about pure euphoria. I think opiates > MDMA in that category.
Opiates are however significantly more difficult to use responsibly.
Nope. Opiates have a different high. MDMA is very different, they are for different things. Opiates are pure euphoria. But you do not get the empathy you get from MDMA. Its a different feeling.
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Yeah getting pipes is fucking annoying. Ellen should try raving again. Gets some pure quality molly make sure it is you should be able to find at least a little in your area. And then do it again. Since you have been off for a while it will be amazing, almost like your first time  Edit: You should NOT buy X but instead molly powder. You won't get fucked over as much with shitty stuff.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
#14100906 - 03/10/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: what's fun is taking a ton of E on a friday night
then a ton of DXM or any other drug that acts on seratonin
the receptors will be so drained that the drug will just flood everything
it "fucks" you up.
That doesn't sound right at all.
MDMA causes your neurons to release large amounts of serotonin into the synapses. This does two things - it drains your neurons of serotonin, and it also downregulates your serotonin receptors, making them less sensitive to the serotonin that is there.
Because of this, you should have a tolerance to all other serotonergic drugs, not a sensitivity. DXM releases some serotonin, but since your neurons are drained, there isn't too much to release. But that's its only real action on serotonin. DXM's main activity is on the glutamate receptors.
Now maybe what you say is true, but it's not for the reason you say it is. Your glutamate receptors and your serotonin receptors have very dependent activity, and they affect each other in a lot of ways that aren't very well understood. If DXM works better, it's because of some sort of complex interaction between the glutamate receptors and the serotonin receptors, not because the drug is "flooding everything"
You're probably right, I don't know anything about drug intereactions, I was just saying what seemed to make sense. I know both drugs work on seratonin so I went from there.
All I know is that if I took 2 hits of E and 600mg of DXM the next day, the trip would last about 3-5 times longer, and be about 3 times more intense then if I took the DXM alone.
Thanks for setting me straight.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14100914 - 03/10/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I guess I'll just stick with 
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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definitely not overrated. its the shit
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: I AM SWIM]
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So I guess I'll just stick with 

I would.
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Just thinking of it is awesome
I remember my most intense trip
it was like, everything infront of me was white, if I didn't know any better I'd say I was on a spaceship or something.
My body was like screaming from feeling so amazing... I had to think myself out of it because it was just too much.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14101015 - 03/10/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I found your answer.
MDMA inhibits the CYP2D enzymes for up to a week after your dose. CYP2D6 is the primary enzyme responsible for breaking down DXM.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
#14101035 - 03/10/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BothHands said: I found your answer.
MDMA inhibits the CYP2D enzymes for up to a week after your dose. CYP2D6 is the primary enzyme responsible for breaking down DXM.
Well Miss Maam if you're keen on doing some more research, could you tell me if said reaction is harmful or toxic at all?
I honestly feel like those experiences fucked me up a little.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14101055 - 03/10/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ongratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
This and if you get bad pills or need to usually take more, you just in a bad region. Cali-az-vegas are the best places to get constant good shit.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: dshow]
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ongratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
This and if you get bad pills or need to usually take more, you just in a bad region. Cali-az-vegas are the best places to get constant good shit.
Toronto is kind of MDMA capital  If you know where to look. Pure pure pure. mmmm
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: dshow]
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X is DA BOMB. You have great shit and your world becomes WINNING!
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14101070 - 03/10/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, DXM is a much more potent SRI, while DXO (the byproduct of CYP2D6 metabolism) is much less active on serotonin, and much more active on the glutamate receptors.
My guess is that the much more potent serotonin activity of your DXM experience directly following a powerful serotonergic experience on MDMA would cause more downregulation of the serotonin receptors. This means your tolerance to your own serotonin is so high, that normal levels aren't good enough (and you're below normal levels). That's probably why you feel like shit. I think that if you did MDMA two days in a row, you'd have a similar experience.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc] 1
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xanax is way betterer
No. That statement is fucking ludicrous. Xanax is whack compared to MDMA.
Also, taknig a random pill of ecstasy is not a good way to judge how it feels to roll. The first time I rolled there's no fucking way in hell that you'd find me on the internet posting about. Find better X and go talk to your friends.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said: Well, DXM is a much more potent SRI, while DXO (the byproduct of CYP2D6 metabolism) is much less active on serotonin, and much more active on the glutamate receptors.
My guess is that the much more potent serotonin activity of your DXM experience directly following a powerful serotonergic experience on MDMA would cause more downregulation of the serotonin receptors. This means your tolerance to your own serotonin is so high, that normal levels aren't good enough (and you're below normal levels). That's probably why you feel like shit. I think that if you did MDMA two days in a row, you'd have a similar experience.
Well I don't know if feel like shit is the right way to phrase it, I havn't done said combo in about 2 years, but I still feel slightly retarded from it
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Frost]
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xanax is way betterer
No. That statement is fucking ludicrous. Xanax is whack compared to MDMA.
Also, taknig a random pill of ecstasy is not a good way to judge how it feels to roll. The first time I rolled there's no fucking way in hell that you'd find me on the internet posting about. Find better X and go talk to your friends.
Which part of I've done 30+ pills did you miss?
15 Ecstasy trips vs 1 Xanax trip, and I liked Xanax more.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
#14101092 - 03/10/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lesions? 
Joking.. 
I really don't know, to be honest. Maybe you just fried something.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
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I was always curious, thanks for looking it up for me 
But boy flying through space and opening doors to alternate dimensions that were more real then reality was worth it I think.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: dshow]
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it's a long story
i took E on the Xanax trip too
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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Just want to point out, in my experience at least no rolls I've ever taken will compare with a 1/4 gram of molly. I love xanax too, but everyone I know who has a script for it becomes a retarded zombie who can't remember how many pills he took. Then they take more, and an insane cycle of forgetting important shit happens.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: dshow]
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15 Ecstasy trips vs 1 Xanax trip, and I liked Xanax more.
You are one silly little creature.
Thank you. It's either he had shitty ecstasy every time, or his brain chemistry is different than everybody I've ever met.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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the time im referring to was from what i was told by friends who know the stuff, that it was some of the best theyve had.
took some, didnt kick in for hours. then smoked some bud and rolled my ass off for 2 hours and then passed out. but while i was rolling my emotions were so up and down and all around. it went from me wanting to fuck like crazy (and i was alone when it kicked in...) to me wanting to kill myself right there in that moment. it was insane. i felt amazing, but my mind was fucked. that shit made me feel EXTREMELY bipolar.
It does not sound like what you took was MDMA...
You should normally feel it within 30 minutes, fully kicking around 45 minutes to an hour. And the effects generally last 3-5 hours then you slowly start to float back down. You shouldn't be experiencing fluctuating emotions, but rather the epitome of being content and blissful even if you don't want to be haha. And most people don't get that horny from MDMA, alcohol tends to induce that more so than MDMA.
It honestly sounds like what you had was meth or some sort of amphetamine, or possibly a piperazine...But definitely was not MDMA by the way you described it....
I've never ever had a "Crash" from straight pure MDMA, I simply float back down to baseline. And like ellenallien described, I'm left with an afterglow and feeling amazing for days to weeks after the experience...
You will know when you have straight MDMA...It's 

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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might be methylone. the crash on that shit feels horrible.
also: pillreports.com
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Mello Kitty]
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I'd 100% agree. It just throws a switch you didn't know existed.
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I'm feeling really good.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: pfxtc]
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I AM SWIM said: FACT: Vaped DMT Euphoria > IV heroin+hydromorphone Euphoria
So I guess I'll just stick with 

DMT does impart a feeling that could be described as "euphoria". It isn't "euphoria" in the classic sense of "warm blankets" as is commonly described with opiates; though in part physical it isn't primarily physical.
It's just being so *perfectly* aligned, in every way. You are just *centered* and *comfortable* and...the best that can be described is that it's "real euphoria". You couldn't be "in bliss" as we think of it and still function. Not 24/7. Not to mention opiates have terrible side effects like nausea and constipation. DMT Euphoria is like tangible, actual, possible euphoria. "ego loss" would certainly be a phrase to describe it but the actual events lose significance when you try to attach words to them. "Complete" or "Whole" or "Fulfilled" would be good words to describe the after effects of a proper session.
And if we're talking about 10-15 minutes after the experience, during when this feeling is strongly present, you're still cogent enough to operate a motor vehicle. Try being in opiate "euphoria" and doing *anything* that pertains to sustaining the self here in this realm.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Humility]
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ellenallien said: with pure or really good quality MDMA i normally dont get hangover or become a depressed zombie like with Tablets. usually im ecstatic for days talking about how profound of an experience it was. after having such a profound experience, even talking to the people i have shared it with to this day i still get butterflies and a slight placebo feeling LoL
the time im referring to was from what i was told by friends who know the stuff, that it was some of the best theyve had.
took some, didnt kick in for hours. then smoked some bud and rolled my ass off for 2 hours and then passed out. but while i was rolling my emotions were so up and down and all around. it went from me wanting to fuck like crazy (and i was alone when it kicked in...) to me wanting to kill myself right there in that moment. it was insane. i felt amazing, but my mind was fucked. that shit made me feel EXTREMELY bipolar.
It does not sound like what you took was MDMA...
You should normally feel it within 30 minutes, fully kicking around 45 minutes to an hour. And the effects generally last 3-5 hours then you slowly start to float back down. You shouldn't be experiencing fluctuating emotions, but rather the epitome of being content and blissful even if you don't want to be haha. And most people don't get that horny from MDMA, alcohol tends to induce that more so than MDMA.
It honestly sounds like what you had was meth or some sort of amphetamine, or possibly a piperazine...But definitely was not MDMA by the way you described it....
I've never ever had a "Crash" from straight pure MDMA, I simply float back down to baseline. And like ellenallien described, I'm left with an afterglow and feeling amazing for days to weeks after the experience...
You will know when you have straight MDMA...It's 

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brown clear crystal. it kicked in quick for everyone else. im pretty sure it was MDMA. everyone else loved it and it kicked in instantly for them. i took mine at a club, went to the after party, then got home at 4 or 5 and smoked then it kicked in. i took it in its capsule, and i probably had a full stomach.
i shouldnt say there was a crash. i felt great the next day. the bad part was DURING the good part...
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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brown clear crystal. it kicked in quick for everyone else. im pretty sure it was MDMA. everyone else loved it and it kicked in instantly for them. i took mine at a club, went to the after party, then got home at 4 or 5 and smoked then it kicked in. i took it in its capsule, and i probably had a full stomach.
i shouldnt say there was a crash. i felt great the next day. the bad part was DURING the good part...
Still doesn't mean its MDMA. It could be pipes (most likely) or RCs.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
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Get good pills next time. Ecstasy is completely incredible and magical. My first time rolling I will remember for the rest of my life and it was one of my most memorable experiences.
Anybody comparing ecstasy to Xanax doesn't know JACK SHIT.
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Anybody comparing ecstasy to Xanax doesn't know JACK SHIT.
Yeah the first time is always so magical. I don't know why. Maybe because before it you didn't know anything could feel that good.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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brown clear crystal. it kicked in quick for everyone else. im pretty sure it was MDMA. everyone else loved it and it kicked in instantly for them. i took mine at a club, went to the after party, then got home at 4 or 5 and smoked then it kicked in. i took it in its capsule, and i probably had a full stomach.
i shouldnt say there was a crash. i felt great the next day. the bad part was DURING the good part...
Still doesn't mean its MDMA. It could be pipes (most likely) or RCs.
it was the same stuff ive always seen called "molly." i live in a college town, and believe me, molly is all over the place. looked and smelled the same too. most RCs dont come in big glass shards. not any that ive ever seen.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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brown clear crystal. it kicked in quick for everyone else. im pretty sure it was MDMA. everyone else loved it and it kicked in instantly for them. i took mine at a club, went to the after party, then got home at 4 or 5 and smoked then it kicked in. i took it in its capsule, and i probably had a full stomach.
i shouldnt say there was a crash. i felt great the next day. the bad part was DURING the good part...
Still doesn't mean its MDMA. It could be pipes (most likely) or RCs.
it was the same stuff ive always seen called "molly." i live in a college town, and believe me, molly is all over the place. looked and smelled the same too. most RCs dont come in big glass shards. not any that ive ever seen.
I bet it was pipes lol. Or amphetamines. I am not trying to be a dick. But I have been in the MDMA scene for a while and I can say with confidence most of the time you will be getting shitty pipes or amphs with maybe some MDMA in it. Pipes look EXACTLY like MDMA. So do some RCs. So do random amphetamines.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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Have you ever seen a pure drug before? A lot of them look/smell the same.
Molly, for me, is totally over at the 3.5hr mark. So I don't know what the hell you took, but it wasn't MDMA.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: learningtofly]
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i clicked that link. Tripped me the fuck out. are there more like it?
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: learningtofly]
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Have you ever seen a pure drug before? A lot of them look/smell the same.
Molly, for me, is totally over at the 3.5hr mark. So I don't know what the hell you took, but it wasn't MDMA.
Ive seen shit that smelled like molly but definitely not. The real and only true test is use a testing kit (or if you have tried pure before, know what it feels like, and don't mind eating unknown chemicals you can try it and see what the effects are).
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Have you ever seen a pure drug before? A lot of them look/smell the same.
Molly, for me, is totally over at the 3.5hr mark. So I don't know what the hell you took, but it wasn't MDMA.
Ive seen shit that smelled like molly but definitely not. The real and only true test is use a testing kit (or if you have tried pure before, know what it feels like, and don't mind eating unknown chemicals you can try it and see what the effects are).
i guess i cant say for sure what it was. but im still banking on it being mdma. took 5h ours to kick in, and that was once i smoked weed. it hit me really fuckin hard. i think i had a full stomach when i took it, and it was still in the pill. i should have just eaten the crystal. i rolled hard for 2 hours straight, passed out and woke up and felt awesome. that was the weird part. the next day was more enjoyable to me than the high itself. i think i just dont particularly like the MDMA high. it was too much of an emotional rollercoaster. dont get me wrong, that shit felt AMAZING, but my emotions were fuucked up. it felt like i could feel my brain damaging. nexy day was perfect though.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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Have you ever seen a pure drug before? A lot of them look/smell the same.
Molly, for me, is totally over at the 3.5hr mark. So I don't know what the hell you took, but it wasn't MDMA.
Ive seen shit that smelled like molly but definitely not. The real and only true test is use a testing kit (or if you have tried pure before, know what it feels like, and don't mind eating unknown chemicals you can try it and see what the effects are).
i guess i cant say for sure what it was. but im still banking on it being mdma. took 5h ours to kick in, and that was once i smoked weed. it hit me really fuckin hard. rolled hard for 2 hours straight, passed out and woke up and felt awesome. that was the weird part. the next day was more enjoyable than the high itself. i think i just dont particularly like the MDMA high. it was too much of an emotional rollercoaster.
That's not MDMA. It doesn't work like that. MDMA you will be HIGH as fuck within 60 minutes. It never takes any longer. You will be SOBER again in 3 to 4 hours. There is no emotional rollercoaster, you are euphoric. And it doesn't affect people differently. Even if you ate a full meal you just would not get as high, not have it kick it later. It is quickly processed by your body. It is a fast acting drug.
It really sounds to me like you took some sketchy RC man. Even pipes will kick in (only you always feel like you are just about to get high).
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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I bet it was PMA or a PMA analogue. PMA takes a long fucking time to hit and doesn't have the intense euphoria, instead a kind of up and down feeling.
I bet that is what it was. And if so, be careful. That shit can kill you if you take too much.
Edit: These are the effects of REAL mdma
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects.shtml
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Ajaxx]
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Have you ever seen a pure drug before? A lot of them look/smell the same.
Molly, for me, is totally over at the 3.5hr mark. So I don't know what the hell you took, but it wasn't MDMA.
Ive seen shit that smelled like molly but definitely not. The real and only true test is use a testing kit (or if you have tried pure before, know what it feels like, and don't mind eating unknown chemicals you can try it and see what the effects are).
i guess i cant say for sure what it was. but im still banking on it being mdma. took 5h ours to kick in, and that was once i smoked weed. it hit me really fuckin hard. i think i had a full stomach when i took it, and it was still in the pill. i should have just eaten the crystal. i rolled hard for 2 hours straight, passed out and woke up and felt awesome. that was the weird part. the next day was more enjoyable to me than the high itself. i think i just dont particularly like the MDMA high. it was too much of an emotional rollercoaster. dont get me wrong, that shit felt AMAZING, but my emotions were fuucked up. it felt like i could feel my brain damaging. nexy day was perfect though.
that is DEFINITELY not MDMA.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: learningtofly]
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I've never tried MDMA before, but I want to. I found somebody who said they could get me some molly. I don't know if it will actually happen, but I want to experience it.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: bryguy27007]
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bryguy27007 said: I've never tried MDMA before, but I want to. I found somebody who said they could get me some molly. I don't know if it will actually happen, but I want to experience it.
Invest in a test kit to make sure what your getting really is molly. You don't want to spoil your first time with bunk shit.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14105079 - 03/11/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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everyone else that took the same stuff said it was the best MDMA theyve ever had and they were rolling in a half hour.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Invest in a test kit to make sure what your getting really is molly. You don't want to spoil your first time with bunk shit.
That's a good idea actually.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: bryguy27007]
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my first time i took 2 bunk pills and snorted 1 then got ahold of 2 really great white crowns later on they all go for 10 bucks a pill round here so it was an expensive night imo haha but the first two i started to sweat a ton and me n my bro sat in the car withh the bass all the waay up n heat on aand i just didnt feel right so we went inside and sat in the dark with a sstrobe light on and it was pretty cool i was feeling it a little bit but some friends called and we drove to their house my brother was rolling balls super hard he took 4 at the beginning. at the party i bought two more an OMG within 15 mins i was on a completely new level WOW i never felt better in my life sooooo full of energy i felt like dancing constantly and i just couldnt stay still. this chick blew vaporub all into my eyes and it was the best thing ever haha i vaguely remember everything i think i actually blacked out bc people said i was totally making a fool of myself but i cant remember anything bad happening but i do remember not being able to talk bc i said shit WAY too fast so i just stayed quiet for a while after that HAHAHA.
Anyways it was pretty good i would love to try it with shrooms you should give it another shot before you give it up.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: lonestoner]
#14105516 - 03/11/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I took two pills and I thought it gave me a really nice good feeling buzz. But overall, it was a bit overrated.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: lonestoner]
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lonestoner said: my first time i took 2 bunk pills and snorted 1 then got ahold of 2 really great white crowns later on they all go for 10 bucks a pill round here so it was an expensive night imo haha but the first two i started to sweat a ton and me n my bro sat in the car withh the bass all the waay up n heat on aand i just didnt feel right so we went inside and sat in the dark with a sstrobe light on and it was pretty cool i was feeling it a little bit but some friends called and we drove to their house my brother was rolling balls super hard he took 4 at the beginning. at the party i bought two more an OMG within 15 mins i was on a completely new level WOW i never felt better in my life sooooo full of energy i felt like dancing constantly and i just couldnt stay still. this chick blew vaporub all into my eyes and it was the best thing ever haha i vaguely remember everything i think i actually blacked out bc people said i was totally making a fool of myself but i cant remember anything bad happening but i do remember not being able to talk bc i said shit WAY too fast so i just stayed quiet for a while after that HAHAHA.
Anyways it was pretty good i would love to try it with shrooms you should give it another shot before you give it up.
This doesn't sound like MDMA either....It could of had some MDMA and was cut with some sort of amp or other stimulant, or was simply a RC...Who knows 
Straight MDMA is actually very chill and downing, it's not speedy at all. MDMA turns me into a puddle, I just want to sit down, feel good, and talk with people...If I'm at a party or somewhere there is dancing I actually prefer a little bit of a stimulant because MDMA alone just makes me sit on my ass .

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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in the 15+ times I took ecstasy it always took about 2 hours to kick in.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
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FeedingMyDreams said: I took two pills and I thought it gave me a really nice good feeling buzz. But overall, it was a bit overrated.
Either you didn't take enough, or it wasn't MDMA....
I guarantee if you took 150mg to 200mg (A standard solid dose) of straight MDMA you would not say it's "overrated"

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That doesn't mean anything man. Maybe they have never had real pure molly.
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Yeah E is not MDMA, E half the time doesn't even include MDMA. E makes me feel weird. M makes me feel :
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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not mdma, also a stomach empties its contents in 20 mins.. so doesnt matter.
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Hold on here... So you just consume pills that you have no idea of what is in them? You dont ask other people if they tried it? or check it out? You would know before hand if you had 2 bunk pills and the 3rd. .. lol.. Id worry about taking this shit from a bad dealer who knows what your getting.
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Thats called OD. Otherwise not mdma. Ive taken an extreme amount at one time, i puked it out. If i went any further it would of been OD. either way, this is NOT MDMA.
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This is ridiculous. 2 hours? Guess what? the x your getting is something bad. Its not right. It does not take 2 hours to kick in. Those pills are messed up in some way. Dipped in something hell idk. But it doesnt sound right.
Like other people said... X (e) or ectasy. Are not pure. They are always mixed with something else. Thats what a roll is. Many times they are mixed with shit that you dont want. Thats why it is smart to look it up, or test it yourself.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: dshow]
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its a gamble man buying shit out the streets is never smart but who in the fuck actually knows someone who makes the stuff? the first 3 i took we got from my brothers best friend so i figured they would be straight. they are alll mixed with stimulants in dalllas in my experience which isnt much ive only rolled 3 times and they all had similar effects except that the first time was soooo fucking intense and omg it was sooo fun. people have told me that some people do cut their shit so much that its just meth so i havent been rolling lately bc too much of that even in moderation is bad imo.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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Either you didn't take enough, or it wasn't MDMA....
I guarantee if you took 150mg to 200mg (A standard solid dose) of straight MDMA you would not say it's "overrated"

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Uzziel]
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I know E isn't pure, stop repeating it.
I know when I got a good roll or a bad one, but either way it always took at least an hour and a half to kick in.
Like I've said though, I've never gotten "pure" MDMA. I'd like to try it sometime.
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FeedingMyDreams said: I took two pills and I thought it gave me a really nice good feeling buzz. But overall, it was a bit overrated.
Did you take them both at onces? Most pills aren't that good. Taking only 1 will just give a little roll and feel a little good but if you took 2 or 3 you would really roll and damn its so intense and euphoric.. <HUGE> difference between a low dose of MDMA and a medium-high dose.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Uzziel]
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Either you didn't take enough, or it wasn't MDMA....
I guarantee if you took 150mg to 200mg (A standard solid dose) of straight MDMA you would not say it's "overrated"

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150mg is my sweet spot. DEFINITELY not overrated... the euphoria is out of this world 

Same here...I would say 150mg is also my sweet spot.
100mg is nice, I definitely "roll" but I'm always left wanting more. 200mg has me completely floored, I enjoy it but it's rather intense. I find 150mg to be a nice dose, with perhaps a little bump of 20mg to 40mg a bit before the peak.
The most I've taken was around 225mg of pure uncut MDMA...That was very intense. I had nystagmus (eye wiggles) the entire time. All I could do was sit down and let the bliss roll over me...Good times, don't get me wrong, but I will probably never dose that high again.

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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The most I've taken was around 225mg of pure uncut MDMA...That was very intense. I had nystagmus (eye wiggles) the entire time. All I could do was sit down and let the bliss roll over me...Good times, don't get me wrong, but I will probably never dose that high again.
I've gotten the eye wiggles once from MDA when I took somewhere between 150-200mg, but I've never gotten it from MDMA. However, I've never taken that much MDMA before, normally for MDMA i will take 75-100mg and then another 75-100mg 2hrs later. To me that is the perfect amount.
What's funny though is that I've never taken MDMA pure, just in pills, but the pills have always been totally clean. And before anyone says it's probably not MDMA if it's in an E pill... the typical MDMA via pill experience for me is:
0:00 ingest 0:30-40min starts coming on 3:30min coming down/sober/sobering up
Essentially the entire experience lasting 3hrs45min maximum (meaning im completely sober at this point)
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
#14108264 - 03/12/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FeedingMyDreams said: It's nice but overrated.
must not have been a high dose of mdma. get yourself a gram of molly for 60.00 which is 5 REALLY STRONG DOSES. 12.00 for a magical night is well worth it. especially if you got some vagina around.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said: I've gotten the eye wiggles once from MDA when I took somewhere between 150-200mg, but I've never gotten it from MDMA. However, I've never taken that much MDMA before, normally for MDMA i will take 75-100mg and then another 75-100mg 2hrs later. To me that is the perfect amount.
What's funny though is that I've never taken MDMA pure, just in pills, but the pills have always been totally clean. And before anyone says it's probably not MDMA if it's in an E pill... the typical MDMA via pill experience for me is:
0:00 ingest 0:30-40min starts coming on 3:30min coming down/sober/sobering up
Essentially the entire experience lasting 3hrs45min maximum (meaning im completely sober at this point)
Yea MDA tends to hit much harder than MDMA per MG....I would say 100mg of MDA is equal to about 140mg of MDMA. I know they're two different drugs but generally speaking that's how I would compare them...
I find the physical side effects from MDA to be a bit more pronounced, eye wiggles being one of them. And I actually prefer MDA over MDMA 
There are most definitely still good clean pills out there. They're just far and few between these days....I've had two different pressed pills that I know had MDMA and were actually really clean feeling. The rest were either pipes or cut with nasty shit that left me feeling strung out the days after, that's why I no longer touch em', and only pure stuff. It's always hit and miss with pills unless you have a test kit or a reliable source...
...But now that pure MDMA and MDA is easy to find I don't even bother

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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so its mda that causes that? in high school when we got nothing but pressies i would randomly come across that shit. heh heh. kinda fun. i would get pressies that had crazy visuals too. like morphing and shit.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14110888 - 03/12/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellenallien said: congratz on the pipe, cus if it was real mdma, u would be stating otherwise
Exactly what ellen said. Pure MDMA is basically pure euphoria. In fact there is NOTHING quite like it. Unfortunately ecstasy pills lots of times contain no MDMA at all, instead contain pipes, DXM, ketamine, etc. Even lots of times "mdma powder" is actually pipes. Trust me its one of those things you do not realize what its like till you experience and then you know ALL OF A SUDDEN this is what it is. Like a K Hole or Ego death.
Pipes? Is that pcp?
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: Cakk]
#14111105 - 03/12/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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piperazine.
it's capsaicin based chemical that sorta.... mimics some effects of MDMA while making a bunch of side effects, and not being no where near as strong or healthy.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: akira_akuma]
#14111176 - 03/12/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dunno said: so its mda that causes that? in high school when we got nothing but pressies i would randomly come across that shit. heh heh. kinda fun. i would get pressies that had crazy visuals too. like morphing and shit.
MDA can induce it, as well as MDMA....So can a bunch of other stimulants.
MDA does tend to have a very visual aspect to it, but again, so can piperazines. And even heavy doses of MDMA can produce visuals so who knows what ya had .
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akira_akuma said: piperazine.
it's capsaicin based chemical that sorta.... mimics some effects of MDMA while making a bunch of side effects, and not being no where near as strong or healthy.
Interesting, I never knew that pipes were synthed from capsaicin.
Pipes are horrible. I've taken MCPP knowingly on 3 separate occasions. No where close to what real MDMA is like. There are a few brief waves of euphoria through out the experience, and weird mild visuals. Other than that I felt anxious and strung out most of the time, sleep was impossible, the days after I felt like shit...And had a head ache.
It's unfortunate that a lot of people take "E", get a piperazine, have a not so great time, and then that's the impression they get of what rolling is 

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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: piperazine.
it's capsaicin based chemical that sorta.... mimics some effects of MDMA while making a bunch of side effects, and not being no where near as strong or healthy.
Capsaicin, are you sure?
Capsaicin

Piperazine

BZP

I don't see a single similarity between capsaicin and piperazine. And the only similarity between capsaicin and BZP is the benzyl group.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: akira_akuma]
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Piperadine still has a nitrogen, and no double bonds. It's significantly different from capsaicin. Maybe you meant piperadine is derived from piperine (the spicy element) in pepper. And by pepper, I mean black pepper and family. Not the chili pepper family. I believe that's right, especially after reading the page you posted.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: BothHands]
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yeah...
i retain information... sorta well, but my desk... it gets a little messy sometiems.
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Re: I just did a pill of X for the first time [Re: openmind]
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learningtofly said: I've gotten the eye wiggles once from MDA when I took somewhere between 150-200mg, but I've never gotten it from MDMA. However, I've never taken that much MDMA before, normally for MDMA i will take 75-100mg and then another 75-100mg 2hrs later. To me that is the perfect amount.
What's funny though is that I've never taken MDMA pure, just in pills, but the pills have always been totally clean. And before anyone says it's probably not MDMA if it's in an E pill... the typical MDMA via pill experience for me is:
0:00 ingest 0:30-40min starts coming on 3:30min coming down/sober/sobering up
Essentially the entire experience lasting 3hrs45min maximum (meaning im completely sober at this point)
Yea MDA tends to hit much harder than MDMA per MG....I would say 100mg of MDA is equal to about 140mg of MDMA. I know they're two different drugs but generally speaking that's how I would compare them...
I find the physical side effects from MDA to be a bit more pronounced, eye wiggles being one of them. And I actually prefer MDA over MDMA 
There are most definitely still good clean pills out there. They're just far and few between these days....I've had two different pressed pills that I know had MDMA and were actually really clean feeling. The rest were either pipes or cut with nasty shit that left me feeling strung out the days after, that's why I no longer touch em', and only pure stuff. It's always hit and miss with pills unless you have a test kit or a reliable source...
...But now that pure MDMA and MDA is easy to find I don't even bother

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MDA is more "drug" like for me, way more in your face sensualness whereas MDMA is like walking on a cloud.
I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE MDMA just because it's so blissfully innocent and I just feel like a little kid again.
honestly if I had to choose a favorite drug experience, I would say ~100mg MDMA.
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