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Drug company offers $1M for Florida tracking system
    #14098959 - 03/10/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Drug company offers $1M for Florida tracking system
March 9, 2011 - naplesnews.com

TALLAHASSEE — The company that makes the widely abused painkiller Oxycontin on Wednesday contributed $1 million to help launch a prescription-drug tracking system in Florida designed to crack down on the illicit sale of medications to drug dealers and addicts.

The donation from Purdue Pharma LP comes amid calls from Gov. Rick Scott and Florida House Speaker Dean Cannon to repeal the state law that would create a database aimed at closing down so-called "pill mills." The program is on hold due to a contract dispute.

Senate President Mike Haridopolos, though, supports the monitoring system and says he doesn't expect his chamber to pass the repeal. The Merritt Island Republican welcomed the Purdue donation.

"The prescription drug data base is a key component in helping Attorney General Pam Bondi and Florida's law enforcement community stamp out the proliferation of illegal selling of prescription drugs," Haridopolos said in a statement. "People are dying and families are destroyed by this abuse."

The Legislature passed a 2009 law setting up the monitoring system but provided no money. Instead, the law requires the cash-strapped state to seek private contributions.

Scott said at a news conference that he plans to work with lawmakers "to find the right approach" to the pill mill problem, and he was not receptive to the Purdue donation.

"I don't want to be participating in things that only get funded for a very short period of time and then the expectation is the state is going to pick up the funding," Scott said at a news conference.

Connecticut-based Purdue also announced it is donating another $1 million to the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy to support a program that helps various state-monitoring programs detect "doctor shopping" across state lines.

"We understand that the governor of Florida is facing difficult choices and financial constraints," Purdue president and CEO John Stewart said in a statement. But he added that company officials "believe that a prescription drug monitoring program in Florida can help curb prescription drug abuse in that state and in other states as well."

More than 30 states have prescription-tracking systems, and law enforcement officials say Florida's lack of such a program has made it the nation's epicenter for the illegal sales of prescription drugs.

Officials from other states have urged Scott to change his mind but so far to no avail.

The new Republican governor has questioned the effectiveness of such systems and contends they violate patient privacy.

Speaker Cannon, R-Winter Park, is pushing a repeal bill through the House along with legislation that would ban doctors from selling drugs, which he says is a better way to attack the problem.

Purdue plans to provide $500,000 a year for two years to a nonprofit foundation that the state has established to raise funds. Prior to the announcement, the foundation had pledges for more than $1.3 million in federal and private grants. Getting the system launched is expected to cost $1.2 million the first year and $500,000 annually to keep it going.

The Purdue donation came on the heels of an administrative law judge's decision Tuesday that rejected a challenge to the database contract that was awarded.

The database program, though, will remain on hold at least until April 7 because parties have 10 days to file exceptions to the judge's order and then the state has 30 days to issue a final decision, said Health Department spokeswoman Michelle Dahnke.

The department awarded the contract to Health Information Designs of Auburn, Ala. Another bidder, Ohio-based Optimum Technology, appealed.


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Re: Drug company offers $1M for Florida tracking system [Re: veggie]
    #14099577 - 03/10/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well we've had prescription tracking in Ohio for years and opiate abuse does nothing but rise.


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    #14103621 - 03/11/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Drug company offers $1M for Florida tracking system [Re: amilibertine]
    #14103928 - 03/11/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Let's just blame it on someone or something and either throw a lot of money at it, or ban it, it's the american way.:rolleyes:

as amilibertine pointed out, it's not a solution.

The solution is to make people not want it. The problem is that people want it.
IF people want it, people will get it.
If people don't want it, people won't get it.

If you have a cup and there is a hole in the bottom and your trying to keep it filled with water, your fighting a battle that can't be won by putting in more water and even if you put enough water in at a constant rate to keep it full, it is still leaking. The solution to the cup problem is to patch the hole.

The solution to making people not want to take these pills, is to be HONEST and tell REAL FACTS and share personal experiences and let people know WHY taking these pills is a bad thing and WHY they should want to avoid taking them. If people say "you may die" well people will say "yeah and by driving a car I may die" so you can't be stupid about it. If it doesn't cause any REAL problems, and people like it, than why wouldn't they use it?

You know how they approach it? They say "People are dying and families are destroyed by this abuse."
Thats garbage. HOW are people dying? HOW are families destroyed? HOW is this abused? HOW many people die, HOW many families get destroyed. You can't just throw out empty propaganda and expect people to say "oh, they said people die and destroys families, well i won't do that". If I told you eating pizza caused people to die and families to be destroyed, but you see your friends eating pizza and enjoying life, suddenly, you have doubts about that claim, but if you have REAL concrete evidence and explanations for REAL situations, then people can actually make EDUCATED decisions.

Are people dying from overdose because they don't know what a safe maximum dosage is? if so, make that information public! Whats the lowest dose someone has died from? what is the most common dose people have died from? and you say it "destroys families" how? Are families destroyed because family members are being arrested by cops or family members are even as cruel to report them to the cops and have them arrested? If so, is it the drug that causes that, or is it the law that causes that? If its the law, than it is not a valid argument as to why you shouldn't use it, because that means if you don't get caught, then that doesn't effect you at all. What if it breaks up families because it has a high percentage chance to create problems, such as violence or theft? What causes the violence and theft? is it the substance that causes hormone changes or is it the fact that it is illegal that causes stress that leads to violence? is it a high price that leads to theft?

I don't know much about this stuff, I've never had any of it, I don't know the risks and what it may cause and so on. I am not claiming that this stuff causes what I mentioned, I am just making a general argument that can be related to whatever it really does cause.

Propaganda makes problems WORSE. Finding out WHY the problem is occurring, rather than HOW, is the only way to work on solving the problem.

If people don't care and will do it regardless of what they know, than no matter what you do, you can't stop them. If people have to set up labs and make their own to sell, they will.


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Re: Drug company offers $1M for Florida tracking system [Re: guest1]
    #14104468 - 03/11/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guest1 said:
Let's just blame it on someone or something and either throw a lot of money at it, or ban it, it's the american way.:rolleyes:

as amilibertine pointed out, it's not a solution.

The solution is to make people not want it. The problem is that people want it.
IF people want it, people will get it.
If people don't want it, people won't get it.

If you have a cup and there is a hole in the bottom and your trying to keep it filled with water, your fighting a battle that can't be won by putting in more water and even if you put enough water in at a constant rate to keep it full, it is still leaking. The solution to the cup problem is to patch the hole.

The solution to making people not want to take these pills, is to be HONEST and tell REAL FACTS and share personal experiences and let people know WHY taking these pills is a bad thing and WHY they should want to avoid taking them. If people say "you may die" well people will say "yeah and by driving a car I may die" so you can't be stupid about it. If it doesn't cause any REAL problems, and people like it, than why wouldn't they use it?

You know how they approach it? They say "People are dying and families are destroyed by this abuse."
Thats garbage. HOW are people dying? HOW are families destroyed? HOW is this abused? HOW many people die, HOW many families get destroyed. You can't just throw out empty propaganda and expect people to say "oh, they said people die and destroys families, well i won't do that". If I told you eating pizza caused people to die and families to be destroyed, but you see your friends eating pizza and enjoying life, suddenly, you have doubts about that claim, but if you have REAL concrete evidence and explanations for REAL situations, then people can actually make EDUCATED decisions.

Are people dying from overdose because they don't know what a safe maximum dosage is? if so, make that information public! Whats the lowest dose someone has died from? what is the most common dose people have died from? and you say it "destroys families" how? Are families destroyed because family members are being arrested by cops or family members are even as cruel to report them to the cops and have them arrested? If so, is it the drug that causes that, or is it the law that causes that? If its the law, than it is not a valid argument as to why you shouldn't use it, because that means if you don't get caught, then that doesn't effect you at all. What if it breaks up families because it has a high percentage chance to create problems, such as violence or theft? What causes the violence and theft? is it the substance that causes hormone changes or is it the fact that it is illegal that causes stress that leads to violence? is it a high price that leads to theft?

I don't know much about this stuff, I've never had any of it, I don't know the risks and what it may cause and so on. I am not claiming that this stuff causes what I mentioned, I am just making a general argument that can be related to whatever it really does cause.

Propaganda makes problems WORSE. Finding out WHY the problem is occurring, rather than HOW, is the only way to work on solving the problem.

If people don't care and will do it regardless of what they know, than no matter what you do, you can't stop them. If people have to set up labs and make their own to sell, they will.




Speaking as someone who has struggled with opiates I can say that your assessment is spot on.  The law destroys more families than the drug.  Real information is not given, instead they just use scare tactics. 

My thing is, they have to know that when they try to scare people with this empty bullshit people laugh and ignore it.  Just like we all laugh at the silly anti-drug commercials.

Harm reduction is the only way to combat the problem.  There is no way to stop drug abuse, the only thing you can do is treat it as a public health problem instead of a criminal one for users and small time dealers (who in the case of opiates are almost always users themselves).

Nice post and insight :thumbup:


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