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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097515 - 03/10/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ps.. notice i didnt take the sunflower seeds out either? lol.. doesnt hurt anything..
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: LurkingWizards]
#14097528 - 03/10/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LurkingWizards said: I just soak the WBS in the hottest tap water that comes out the faucet... after about 4-6 hours I'll strain it and repeat the hot water soak once more for another 4+ hours...(repeat as many times as desired)
after the final soak, while straining(the now cold water), I wash the grain with hot water once more to help steam-dry the outside of grain for jar/bag prep. before the PC step. (this helps with the excess moisture some people encounter)
this is just how I do it, I'm not trying to convince anyone that this method is faster or better... it just fits my schedule better to maintain this process... and I like the results 
I agree that the longer the soak, the more burst grains you will encounter after PC'ing... But I have also not had any problems with colonizing burst grains either 
yeah.. and that is cool.. that is what works for YOU.. because, there are soooooooooo many different prep teks for all this shit, you just kinda gotta find that one that works for you.. i mean, thats just the name of the game..
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097539 - 03/10/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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When I prepare rye, I soak for 12 hours, boil for 10 minutes then drain for an hour.
so besides the soak, they will be inside the PC within 1 hour 30min if I'm moving slowly.
not to mention that I just pour it out into a colander and walk away to come back to perfect grains.
awful is not knowing how your grains will turnout, so you have to fuck with it until its good to go, and spending time fixing it. With enough tlc, I could make wholegrain brown rice a good spawn material.
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cyanara
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097543 - 03/10/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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what if you don't soak as long and load slightly wet.. won't it just go right back into the grain?
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dmonkey1
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: dmonkey1]
#14097563 - 03/10/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I never put water in my jars, only leads to mushy spawn after PC
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: cyanara]
#14097584 - 03/10/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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awful is not knowing how your grains will turnout, so you have to fuck with it until its good to go, and spending time fixing it. With enough tlc, I could make wholegrain brown rice a good spawn material.
hahahahaha.. whole brown rice will do nothing but stick together, and you wont be able to shake it loose..
i know exactly how my grains turn out.. simmering should really only be used when FRUITING off of it.. They do NOT need the moisture provided by simmering for use as spawn.. period.. as you can see, my jars will be done very soon, all from the grain prep without simmering.. and I know it comes out perfect everytime.. you are honestly making it out to be a lot harder than it seems.. especially if you are simmering moisture into grains that arent going to be used as a fruiting substrate..
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When I prepare rye, I soak for 12 hours, boil for 10 minutes then drain for an hour.
those jars you see in the pics only took about 6 hours, from start to PC, and came out absolutely great, and are colonizing fast.. half the time it took you to even just soak..
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what if you don't soak as long and load slightly wet.. won't it just go right back into the grain?
if you cut corners, you will run into problems.. try a couple of different teks, and see what works for you, but FooMans is my personal tek of choice, and hasnt failed me in a few years.. actually, has never failed me since i tried it..
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awful is not knowing how your grains will turnout, so you have to fuck with it until its good to go, and spending time fixing it.
^^^^ this right here is exactly what people run into when they start simmering, just for grain spawn.. they have to fuck with simmer times to make sure they have no burst grain..
no simmer, no burst grain.. your thoughts about having to fuck with something as dreadfully simple as foomans tek, is just, idunno, crazy.. haha.. few steps, fewer time consumed, easy grain spawn.. it really doesnt get too much easier than that..
Edited by DJYoshaBYD (03/10/11 12:34 PM)
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097594 - 03/10/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I never put water in my jars, only leads to mushy spawn after PC
that made no sense.. essentially, it looks like you are saying that if you DO put water in your jars, it will lead to mushroom spawn..
that is what you want, right? spawn?
and no.. never add water to the jars.. if you prepped the grain right, it will have the perfect moisture content
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: dmonkey1]
#14097624 - 03/10/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I put the (rye) grain in a big Pot fill it with water (2-3 inches more water than grain), add some cups of strong brewed coffee and a teaspoon of gypsum, bring it to boil and turn off the heat. I frequently check the grain if i can cut a kernel in half with my thumbnail between my thumb and the pointing finger. If i can easily cut it in half, it is at the right moisture. You will notice that there is still a little white kernel that is not soaked. Then i rinse it well, in a big colander, and let it dry until it is looking no more shiny. >PC for 90 minutes.
Sorry for my bad English. This fucking speech barrier is killing me.
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: Luger0815]
#14097639 - 03/10/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Luger0815 said: I put the (rye) grain in a big Pot fill it with water (2-3 inches more water than grain), add some cups of strong brewed coffee and a teaspoon of gypsum, bring it to boil and turn off the heat. I frequently check the grain if i can cut a kernel in half with my thumbnail between my thumb and the pointing finger. If i can easily cut it in half, it is at the right moisture. You will notice that there is still a little white kernel that is not soaked. Then i rinse it well, in a big colander, and let it dry until it is looking no more shiny. >PC for 90 minutes.
Sorry for my bad English. This fucking speech barrier is killing me.

giggity
and seriously, your english is not bad at all.. my cousin was born and raised in the states, and he is illiterate as fuck.. pretty much like 80% of texas.. hahaha
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Luger0815
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097655 - 03/10/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you...
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dmonkey1
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097662 - 03/10/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: dmonkey1]
#14097684 - 03/10/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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everyone.. yeah.. keep laughing it up.. 80% of americans are stupid as shit.. I hate to say that about my own country, but goddam..
this website is a good example of how fucking retarded our western culture can be.. its sad, because the people i hang around with are NOTHING like this.. we all read, we all learn, etc etc.. sigh.. no wonder the whole world hates us.. lol.. we look like fucking clowns.. hahaha.. well, not all of us.. but the general populous is dumb.. hands down..
http://www.hotghettomess.com/
edit: byt "this website", i meant ^^^^ that one.. NOT The Shroomery
Edited by DJYoshaBYD (03/10/11 12:48 PM)
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Luger0815
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097690 - 03/10/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I also look like a clown hehehe...
oups, sorry back to topic please...
Edited by Luger0815 (03/10/11 12:50 PM)
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: Luger0815]
#14097703 - 03/10/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahahaha
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cyanara
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097709 - 03/10/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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@Luger0815 isn't that RR's tek but reversed?
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Luger0815
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: cyanara]
#14097721 - 03/10/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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cyanara said: @Luger0815 isn't that RR's tek but reversed?
Maybe, i didnt invented it i just follow some tek i have read before. But why is it reversed?
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Luger0815
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: Luger0815]
#14097731 - 03/10/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If i do it like this the kernels dont burst. Thats why i like to do it this way.
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cyanara
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: Luger0815]
#14097751 - 03/10/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i was just saying thats how RR does it except hey boils after to steam off the excess.
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Luger0815
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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: cyanara]
#14097790 - 03/10/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh well, i just skipp that "steaming the excess" before boiling. I steam after boiling to get rid of the starch. I guess, i it is the tek RR explained before, somewhere. It is working rally great with rye.
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: The Official Grain Preferance, Preparation, and Discussion/Debate Thread, 2011, Shroomery Style. [Re: cyanara]
#14098333 - 03/10/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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cyanara said: i was just saying thats how RR does it except hey boils after to steam off the excess.
you can steam off the excess.. no prob.. the order i did it in before i learned foomans tek was to soak, rinse, simmer, strain, PC.. which was cool, because it helped straining, because of evaporation from the steam..
but, i stopped using that method, simply because i never fruit off of the WBS, and just use it for spawn..
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