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US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized
    #14090983 - 03/09/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized
March 9, 2011 - seattlepi.com

BOSTON -- The White House drug czar collapsed twice while visiting the state on Tuesday and was hospitalized.

Drug Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske fell ill and fainted Tuesday afternoon while speaking to law students at Harvard University, a spokesman for his office told The Boston Globe. Emergency workers treated Kerlikowske at the scene and took him to Massachusetts General Hospital, where he was evaluated and released.

Kerlikowske, 61, fainted again at Logan International Airport while on his way back to Washington, D.C., in the evening. He was taken back to the hospital for further evaluation.

Kerlikowske, President Barack Obama's chief adviser on drug issues, was alert and was speaking with doctors, drug office spokesman Rafael Lemaitre said.

Kerlikowske, a former Seattle police chief, has traveled recently to discuss prescription pill abuse, which he calls the country's fastest-growing substance abuse problem. He says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have classified prescription drug abuse as an epidemic.

Last month, Kerlikowske made a three-day visit to Kentucky, where he said he was impressed by the collaboration he saw between public and private sectors in combating the problem.

Last week, he visited Florida, where he said he was encouraged that the state may move forward with a planned database for tracking prescription drugs.

"I clearly believe (databases) are an effective tool in dealing with the prescription drug problem," Kerlikowske told an audience at Florida State University's law school.

That visit came a week after raids led by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration on South Florida pain clinics resulted in the arrests of 20 people. Painkillers, he said, are now second to marijuana in drug abuse among Floridians.

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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: veggie]
    #14091178 - 03/09/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Drug Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske fell ill and fainted Tuesday afternoon




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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14091220 - 03/09/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

maybe the pressure of fighting a losing war is finally taking its toll:shrug:


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14091226 - 03/09/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I worry though...we've had relative calm lately, if we get a new drug czar then who knows...
it could be back to everyone growing hydroponic tomatoes has their house torn apart...


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14091688 - 03/09/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Drug Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske fell ill and fainted Tuesday afternoon




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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: crokms]
    #14092496 - 03/09/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe the pressure of fighting a losing war is finally taking its toll:shrug:




...if only the point of the war was to "win"...


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Remix]
    #14092610 - 03/09/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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crokms said:
maybe the pressure of fighting a losing war is finally taking its toll:shrug:




...if only the point of the war was to "win"...



if you study sun tzu's art of war, there is clearly no way for the government to win the war, and "winning" for the other side would just be drug law reform and an end to the prejudice against unfamiliar versus familiar drugs as casey hardison puts it. but yeah when you have an opponent that can't be pinpointed like guerilla groups, that stay in the shadows, and when you have one that knows more about you than you do about them (dea and politicians are fairly out in the open, obviously drug users are not), among all sorts of all things like the fact that you could never hope to eradicate all the papaver somniferum, cannabis, mimosa hostilis, coca, etc etc etc or drug test everyone.

its just impossible for them to "win" so either it will continue to fluctuate, popular and accepted drugs and those considered taboo will continue to change, or eventually people will realize the truth about them and things will change
and then we would "win" imo


here's a good speech by casey hardison (from jail) about this whole thing


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14092640 - 03/09/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thing is, they're already "winning".

In fact they're bi-winning. Everything is going just how they like it, I suspect.


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Diacetylmentlegen]
    #14096244 - 03/10/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.

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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Magick]
    #14096601 - 03/10/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.



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Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.



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Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.




Yes, actually I think it is.

when you stand up and choose to oppress people from a position of power, to strip them of their basic rights and stand as the poster-boy for an organization that tears apart harmless families, takes twenty-something's futures away over a little weed, etc, you earn the hate.

He made is bed, he'll get to sleep in it. I hope he just croaks.

If this was the 1600's we'd have just hacked him off at the stem already.


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: blujay]
    #14096748 - 03/10/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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blujay said:
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Magick said:
Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.



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Magick said:
Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.



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Why are you all happy that he's sick?

Jesus, he's a lot better than a lot of other potential drug czars. Despite the fact that he is opposed to legalization/decriminalization, it is not right to wish harm on the man.




Yes, actually I think it is.

when you stand up and choose to oppress people from a position of power, to strip them of their basic rights and stand as the poster-boy for an organization that tears apart harmless families, takes twenty-something's futures away over a little weed, etc, you earn the hate.

He made is bed, he'll get to sleep in it. I hope he just croaks.

If this was the 1600's we'd have just hacked him off at the stem already.




QFT.
It doesn't matter that he is "just doing his job". So were the nazis.
That has always been everyones excuse.


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14096840 - 03/10/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

nah dude, look up earlier drug czars. There was a time when hydroponic stores databases were searched and anyone with even a smidgeon of suspicion had their house torn apart (as well as many, many other cases based on rumors and generally tyrannical and shoddy police work) where furniture would be destroyed, walls ripped into, etc and if you were innocent then good for you you don't go to jail but nobody reimburses you for the damages done.

Today most people do seem to understand that maybe drugs aren't such a huge fucking deal and there's more professionalism and understanding. Its not like he's a Nazi, its more like he's just one of the ignorant citizens under Nazi rule. I mean I doubt when you grew up you had the same opinion on drugs you do now, and if you did certainly you know well meaning people who simply misunderstand it.


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14096889 - 03/10/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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nah dude, look up earlier drug czars. There was a time when hydroponic stores databases were searched and anyone with even a smidgeon of suspicion had their house torn apart (as well as many, many other cases based on rumors and generally tyrannical and shoddy police work) where furniture would be destroyed, walls ripped into, etc and if you were innocent then good for you you don't go to jail but nobody reimburses you for the damages done.

Today most people do seem to understand that maybe drugs aren't such a huge fucking deal and there's more professionalism and understanding. Its not like he's a Nazi, its more like he's just one of the ignorant citizens under Nazi rule. I mean I doubt when you grew up you had the same opinion on drugs you do now, and if you did certainly you know well meaning people who simply misunderstand it.




It doesn't matter - even growing up I would never ruin someones life over it.
The fact that he is more than willing too whether he is ignorant or not, it rests on his head and he is personally responsible for it.
Another thing, he is the drug CZAR. It is his job to EDUCATE HIMSELF.
Ignorance is never a valid excuse. Just a cop out.

What your saying is the same as saying a doctor who does not educate himself with up to date practices and uses old techniques is not guilty for killing patients when they die due to his lack of education.



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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14096990 - 03/10/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no what I'm saying is that everyone is guilty of ignorance and ignorantly does "evil" things. They are still guilty of it, and it should be changed, but to rejoice when they are hurt is still wrong imo because a life is a life a human is a human and ignorance is no grounds for ill wishes, whereas wishes that he would do his job better and become more educated are imo good intentions for us and him.

I guess its just basically my thinking that there are no bad people, only people who do bad things, as buddha says life is dukkha, everything is change and anyone can change, there is no such thing as someone who is inherently evil


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14097044 - 03/10/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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no what I'm saying is that everyone is guilty of ignorance and ignorantly does "evil" things. They are still guilty of it, and it should be changed, but to rejoice when they are hurt is still wrong imo because a life is a life a human is a human and ignorance is no grounds for ill wishes, whereas wishes that he would do his job better and become more educated are imo good intentions for us and him.

I guess its just basically my thinking that there are no bad people, only people who do bad things, as buddha says life is dukkha, everything is change and anyone can change, there is no such thing as someone who is inherently evil



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no what I'm saying is that everyone is guilty of ignorance and ignorantly does "evil" things. They are still guilty of it, and it should be changed, but to rejoice when they are hurt is still wrong imo because a life is a life a human is a human and ignorance is no grounds for ill wishes, whereas wishes that he would do his job better and become more educated are imo good intentions for us and him.

I guess its just basically my thinking that there are no bad people, only people who do bad things, as buddha says life is dukkha, everything is change and anyone can change, there is no such thing as someone who is inherently evil




Are you seriously fucking sitting here saying the United States Drug Czar doesn't know what he's doing is fucked up and evil? You think he can't connect the dots and see that half the drugs we have scheduled are just there to keep filling privatized prisons?

Wicked people deserve to burn more than anything else, this whole "life is sacred" bullshit notion will not get us anywhere. What about all the life we (you) necessarily crushed in our path to exponential growth? The unwitting genetic modification of life we apply to feed you. You know what else? Prayers and deities serve as much justice as farts on the wind. People serve justice.

If nobody stands up to them, they will continue to turn a profit by generating human suffering. You think ending one life is bad? I wonder about all the people who get to live in a little grey box for the rest of theirs because of people like him. That's a much worse fate than death.


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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14097113 - 03/10/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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no what I'm saying is that everyone is guilty of ignorance and ignorantly does "evil" things. They are still guilty of it, and it should be changed, but to rejoice when they are hurt is still wrong imo because a life is a life a human is a human and ignorance is no grounds for ill wishes, whereas wishes that he would do his job better and become more educated are imo good intentions for us and him.

I guess its just basically my thinking that there are no bad people, only people who do bad things, as buddha says life is dukkha, everything is change and anyone can change, there is no such thing as someone who is inherently evil




No you are right. I thought you were saying he had no culpability but it was and is wrong to rejoice in his hurt. Sometimes emotions get the best of us and knowing the evil he causes made me see red for a little.
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    #14097279 - 03/10/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14100674 - 03/10/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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no what I'm saying is that everyone is guilty of ignorance and ignorantly does "evil" things. They are still guilty of it, and it should be changed, but to rejoice when they are hurt is still wrong imo because a life is a life a human is a human and ignorance is no grounds for ill wishes, whereas wishes that he would do his job better and become more educated are imo good intentions for us and him.

I guess its just basically my thinking that there are no bad people, only people who do bad things, as buddha says life is dukkha, everything is change and anyone can change, there is no such thing as someone who is inherently evil




Thank you. Actions in this life aside, I don't think it's cool to wish harm upon him or anybody else. You guys are fucked up for celebrating the fact that someone's sick in the hospital.

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Re: US drug czar faints twice in Massachusetts., hospitalized [Re: Magick]
    #14102807 - 03/11/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What the fuck makes human life so sacred? Our complete lack of ethics and morality or the fact that we destroy everything in our path to exponential growth?


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