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want to hit dmt
    #14095104 - 03/09/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I loaded a 55 mg dose of DMT 2 days ago with the intention of hitting it, and keep putting it off.

I have yet to have anything other than an amazing experience with it so far, but just the thought of hitting it makes my heart pound. I've only "broken through" twice, and I'm not even sure if they were full breakthroughs - I saw entities and was in hyperspace, but I was still aware of my body to some degree, and heard sounds from my surroundings. Both times it was unexpected though - the first time just because I didn't know what to expect from a real dose, and the second time because I was hitting the remnants of a dose that a friend of mine had failed to hit properly. I thought there was a low dose left, maybe 30 mg (50 or 60 loaded originally in a meth pipe), but 2 hits in I realized I couldn't continue hitting it, and closed my eyes and found myself in hyperspace.


I still feel an immense curiousity about hyperspace, and I know it has more to show me, but the entry barrier, small as it is - just 3 hits from a bubbler - is really preventing me from exploring it more.

From what I've read, you never really get over the pre-trip anxiety with DMT, but how do you guys get yourselves to actually hit the bowl?

The ridiculous part of this fear is that there seems to really not be anything to be afraid of, it seems to just be purely amazing.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14095201 - 03/09/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if you feel like you should hit it hit it, if you feel like you shouldn't hit it then wait until you feel like you should:hug: follow your intuition and you won't go wrong


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid] * 1
    #14095212 - 03/09/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A few beers help, but honestly an almost beligerant sense of confidance is all you need. I can never 'get ready' to do it, it always just happens when I'm in the midst of something else, see the pipe, and grab it and hit it before I have time to think of it.

Waiting for the right time makes you miss the right moment you're already in


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095479 - 03/09/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man I'm never ready for DMT. It scares me to this day; even that plasticy smell makes me nervous. I don't know how some people can smoke it in a casual manner. Takes me weeks to build up the courage. But it's always worth it..


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14095494 - 03/09/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

haha I feel the same way but I dont let myself have that time and I just jump in. The plasic smell does frighten me. I just got my Machine all ready to be RIPPED in a few hours when I'm peaking on the mushrooms :datass:


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095496 - 03/09/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think part of my fear is purely just of the unknown also. I feel like I've seen just enough of hyperspace to know that I have seen very little at all, and it seems like a DMT trip can be almost anything, including hellish experiences (although it's been all positive so far for me)


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid] * 1
    #14095501 - 03/09/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah it's also the 'grace period' you usually get. when you eat mushrooms, you have like 45 minutes to be like "Ok, I just ate mushrooms... Ok, this could get weird, but it's gonna be good. Alright mushrooms, yeah!"

with DMT it's like "do you hit it like thi----FLRGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"*HYPERSPACE*


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14095517 - 03/09/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it seems like it's pretty impossible to be afraid during the actual experience, more during the period of hitting it up to getting blasted off. do you find that to be true?


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095525 - 03/09/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Azure Essence said:
Yeah it's also the 'grace period' you usually get. when you eat mushrooms, you have like 45 minutes to be like "Ok, I just ate mushrooms... Ok, this could get weird, but it's gonna be good. Alright mushrooms, yeah!"

with DMT it's like "do you hit it like thi----FLRGRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"*HYPERSPACE*




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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14095531 - 03/09/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah thats exactly true, but I feel that with every trip. I'll be scared before hand but once I'm there, there's no point.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14095533 - 03/09/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Notid said:
it seems like it's pretty impossible to be afraid during the actual experience, more during the period of hitting it up to getting blasted off. do you find that to be true?




It's like your mind has a death grip on the reigns. "ARGGG don't do it, don't do it!" But once you're in hyperspace and DMT has the reigns, it's not as threatening. For me at least.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14095621 - 03/09/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I loaded a 55 mg dose of DMT 2 days ago with the intention of hitting it, and keep putting it off.

I have yet to have anything other than an amazing experience with it so far, but just the thought of hitting it makes my heart pound. I've only "broken through" twice, and I'm not even sure if they were full breakthroughs - I saw entities and was in hyperspace, but I was still aware of my body to some degree, and heard sounds from my surroundings. Both times it was unexpected though - the first time just because I didn't know what to expect from a real dose, and the second time because I was hitting the remnants of a dose that a friend of mine had failed to hit properly. I thought there was a low dose left, maybe 30 mg (50 or 60 loaded originally in a meth pipe), but 2 hits in I realized I couldn't continue hitting it, and closed my eyes and found myself in hyperspace.


I still feel an immense curiousity about hyperspace, and I know it has more to show me, but the entry barrier, small as it is - just 3 hits from a bubbler - is really preventing me from exploring it more.

From what I've read, you never really get over the pre-trip anxiety with DMT, but how do you guys get yourselves to actually hit the bowl?

The ridiculous part of this fear is that there seems to really not be anything to be afraid of, it seems to just be purely amazing.




I'm in the same boat man, I've had this bowl packed for over a week now that I just can't get myself to hit. I know that the trip is great and the only thing that bugs me is coming up, peaking is amazing. But man, I just can't get myself to do it.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: learningtofly]
    #14095640 - 03/09/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's not even the come up because that's too fast and disjointed to be aware of, it's just the pretrip anxiety. It's like sky diver's jumping out of a plane. It's always scary, then you wonder what the point of being scared even was.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14095641 - 03/09/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Notid said:
it seems like it's pretty impossible to be afraid during the actual experience, more during the period of hitting it up to getting blasted off. do you find that to be true?




I was just recently scared to bits man. I was full on freaking out. I wrote up a trip report. I have smoked dmt countless times, this was my first sketch moment/s.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14086108

I believe to point it to my mental state at the time. It's now break time.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095659 - 03/09/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It's not even the come up because that's too fast and disjointed to be aware of, it's just the pretrip anxiety. It's like sky diver's jumping out of a plane. It's always scary, then you wonder what the point of being scared even was.




LOL I think sky divers have a good reason to be scared.  :grin:


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14095672 - 03/09/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha well so do we to some extent. It's the unknown, not that the shute wont open. What happens if your shute doesnt open? OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT Oh I just cut it open, teehee.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095909 - 03/10/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:awehigh:


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14095923 - 03/10/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Azure Essence said:
A few beers help, but honestly an almost beligerant sense of confidance is all you need. I can never 'get ready' to do it, it always just happens when I'm in the midst of something else, see the pipe, and grab it and hit it before I have time to think of it.

Waiting for the right time makes you miss the right moment you're already in




I would be careful with this some combinations can be deadly such as MDMA and alcohol


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Cakk]
    #14095936 - 03/10/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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A few beers help, but honestly an almost beligerant sense of confidance is all you need. I can never 'get ready' to do it, it always just happens when I'm in the midst of something else, see the pipe, and grab it and hit it before I have time to think of it.

Waiting for the right time makes you miss the right moment you're already in




I would be careful with this some combinations can be deadly such as MDMA and alcohol




MDMA and alcohol is one of my favorites. :shrug: You just need to be aware of common medical considerations (i.e. hydration).


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14096218 - 03/10/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just do it, man. All you have to do is take the hit, the rest happens on its own. It'll be over in 10 minutes and yeah the trip will make it seem like its much longer, but that's not the state of mind you're in before you take the hit haha. You have the stuff, you can either turn it into cash by selling it to someone else or have an experience that might or might not make a big difference in your life. As far as health risks go, from a normal DMT dose they're small, so I'd say go for it, but its really your choice. Just listen to your intuition, that inner voice that knows even though it doesnt know how it knows, and you'll be fine.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: ThePhilosophizer]
    #14096426 - 03/10/11 05:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All I can say after breaking through for the first time is..... wow. It was so utterly unreal. There is nothing within the laws of anything possibly known or comphrehendable that can even begin to describe it....


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14096795 - 03/10/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I loaded a 55 mg dose of DMT 2 days ago with the intention of hitting it, and keep putting it off.

I have yet to have anything other than an amazing experience with it so far, but just the thought of hitting it makes my heart pound. I've only "broken through" twice, and I'm not even sure if they were full breakthroughs - I saw entities and was in hyperspace, but I was still aware of my body to some degree, and heard sounds from my surroundings. Both times it was unexpected though - the first time just because I didn't know what to expect from a real dose, and the second time because I was hitting the remnants of a dose that a friend of mine had failed to hit properly. I thought there was a low dose left, maybe 30 mg (50 or 60 loaded originally in a meth pipe), but 2 hits in I realized I couldn't continue hitting it, and closed my eyes and found myself in hyperspace.


I still feel an immense curiousity about hyperspace, and I know it has more to show me, but the entry barrier, small as it is - just 3 hits from a bubbler - is really preventing me from exploring it more.

From what I've read, you never really get over the pre-trip anxiety with DMT, but how do you guys get yourselves to actually hit the bowl?

The ridiculous part of this fear is that there seems to really not be anything to be afraid of, it seems to just be purely amazing.




Listen, first off I always hit 25 mgs and i gives me a full blown level 5 trip beyond anything else I can trip. Make sure to at least make a pvc "machine" to hit it out of.

Also if you want to hit like 5 mgs out of a non "machine" then it will give you mild hallucinations that are like full blown vivid dreams.  It'll give you a feel. But don't be scared unless you have some strong baggage, because beyond the fear of being dead the trip is euphoric.

DMT is great, make sure to not overthink things but mentally prepare yourself as well to be in a good state of mind.

And if it makes you feel any better you can always turn a DMT trip off by turning the lights on and interacting.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Seanfu]
    #14097488 - 03/10/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

swim has been smoking dmt everyday for about 3 weeks now and he still gets the same feeling everytime. the rewarding feeling just overpowers that anxious feeling and makes the experience worthwhile.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: lumadaylight9]
    #14097943 - 03/10/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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swim has been smoking dmt everyday for about 3 weeks now and he still gets the same feeling everytime. the rewarding feeling just overpowers that anxious feeling and makes the experience worthwhile.




Things must be getting weird.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: muistrue]
    #14098776 - 03/10/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im doing DMT at burning man this summer but reading all this already gives me goosebumps.

cant wait


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Magicmario]
    #14099425 - 03/10/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You people with your packed bowls of DMT better smoke it this fucking instant. I'm so ready to get down on some DMT. Been looking so hard to no avail.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14099498 - 03/10/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Notid said:
I loaded a 55 mg dose of DMT 2 days ago with the intention of hitting it, and keep putting it off.

I have yet to have anything other than an amazing experience with it so far, but just the thought of hitting it makes my heart pound. I've only "broken through" twice, and I'm not even sure if they were full breakthroughs - I saw entities and was in hyperspace, but I was still aware of my body to some degree, and heard sounds from my surroundings. Both times it was unexpected though - the first time just because I didn't know what to expect from a real dose, and the second time because I was hitting the remnants of a dose that a friend of mine had failed to hit properly. I thought there was a low dose left, maybe 30 mg (50 or 60 loaded originally in a meth pipe), but 2 hits in I realized I couldn't continue hitting it, and closed my eyes and found myself in hyperspace.


I still feel an immense curiousity about hyperspace, and I know it has more to show me, but the entry barrier, small as it is - just 3 hits from a bubbler - is really preventing me from exploring it more.

From what I've read, you never really get over the pre-trip anxiety with DMT, but how do you guys get yourselves to actually hit the bowl?

The ridiculous part of this fear is that there seems to really not be anything to be afraid of, it seems to just be purely amazing.




Ive tripped off DMT more times then i could count and I am often very nervous before tripping.  If you have a lot to spare then I have a suggestion that works for me.  Load a small dose early in the day and hit it.  You will realize that the experience is nothing to be frightened of, then load a breakthrough dose sometime later during the day and you will be much less nervous. 

And with the two hits and you realized you couldn't hit the bowl anymore thing, you have to keep hitting it to really leave this world.  Have a friend hold the flame for you and motivate you to keep hitting it.  The hit that you didn't think you could take is the most crucial hit to a DMT trip, trust me.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14099635 - 03/10/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Man I'm never ready for DMT. It scares me to this day; even that plasticy smell makes me nervous. I don't know how some people can smoke it in a casual manner. Takes me weeks to build up the courage. But it's always worth it..




I'm still getting over my last experience, man...it was back in November! Still haven't built up the courage to approach the freebase again.

I just need to make some changa it seems :shrug:


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: catalyst]
    #14099713 - 03/10/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Finally got around to hitting the bowl, but I didn't get "there". My initial fear took over when I started hitting it, so I ended up taking 5 or 6 smaller hits (as opposed to taking as big of rips as possible). I only ended up seeing the veil.

The weird thing this time was that up until the point when I stopped hitting it and closed my eyes, there were almost no OEVs, but then the veil itself was incredibly colorful.

Definitely going for a breakthrough later tonight. This attempt definitely reminded me that there's nothing to be afraid of, so when I hit it later I'm going no holds barred with the hits.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Notid]
    #14099785 - 03/10/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Definitely going for a breakthrough later tonight. This attempt definitely reminded me that there's nothing to be afraid of, so when I hit it later I'm going no holds barred with the hits.




Told you that would work lol


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Joolz]
    #14099979 - 03/10/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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You people with your packed bowls of DMT better smoke it this fucking instant. I'm so ready to get down on some DMT. Been looking so hard to no avail.



Dude, you dont find DMT, you make it, lol. Its as easy as baking cookies.

EDIT: make/extract, whatever....


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: shLong]
    #14100191 - 03/10/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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shLong said:
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Joolz said:
You people with your packed bowls of DMT better smoke it this fucking instant. I'm so ready to get down on some DMT. Been looking so hard to no avail.



Dude, you dont find DMT, you make it, lol. Its as easy as baking cookies.

EDIT: make/extract, whatever....




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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Seanfu]
    #14100595 - 03/10/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You know there is a way safer way of extracting DMT than using lye and naphtha...

I was thinking of this way to mix bark with pickling lime just like the q21q21 tek at the nexus but instead of using d-limo or naphtha as the solvent i was thinking of using vegetable oil to dissolve the dmt from the lime/mimosa and to salt out dmt acetate from the oil by adding vinegar to the oil and seperating.

The q21q21 tek says to evap the vinegar down to dmt acetate then heat it in a spoon to convert to freebase...but i was thinking that wouldn't work too good and i was thinking of adding baking soda saturated water to the vinegar to crash out dmt freebase since freebase is insoluble water/vinegar

Would that work?


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14100879 - 03/10/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

STB is safe as long as you follow instructions. If youve never done it, follow a tek to the T! After you've done some work, then feel free to experiment...and  report back to the community.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: shLong]
    #14100992 - 03/10/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh ive done it...ive done STB several times and been to hyperspace and back :super:

Im at the point where ive tried several different teks and im ready to start experimenting with food safe ways. I just need to order some MHRB


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14102654 - 03/11/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh ive done it...ive done STB several times and been to hyperspace and back :super:

Im at the point where ive tried several different teks and im ready to start experimenting with food safe ways. I just need to order some MHRB



Well, get on it, fool!:lolsy:


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: shLong]
    #14102787 - 03/11/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The only way I know/heard of making DMT uses lye, and around here getting lye means putting all of your information on a piece of paper unless you have hook ups. I don't have the hook ups.

Please, if you have other ways, simpler ways, for your average Joe who just wants to see outer space, please, enlighten me.

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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Joolz]
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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: Joolz]
    #14103735 - 03/11/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There are other ways of extracting DMT than using lye and naphtha. The q21q21 tek at the nexus uses pickling lime, d-limonene, and vinegar.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14105353 - 03/11/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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but instead of using d-limo or naphtha as the solvent i was thinking of using vegetable oil to dissolve the dmt from the lime/mimosa and to salt out dmt acetate from the oil by adding vinegar to the oil and seperating.

i was also thinking of adding baking soda saturated water to the vinegar to crash out dmt freebase since freebase is insoluble water/vinegar

Would that work?



I just mixed some oil and vinegar and shook it up and let seperate over the time of a few hours,...and it seems the oil is too thick to seperate from the vinegar. Tiny pockets of oil stay in the vinegar when a seperation is attempted.

Dont try vegetable oil as i was trying to think it would work but it seperates like shit. I guess d-limo or naphtha would be the only ways to go.


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Re: want to hit dmt [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14105994 - 03/11/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd get onto the nexus and get help from the experts with a problem like that. Alot of the people here besides a few are not really qualified or experienced enough to give proper advice in regards to extractions. The folks over at the nexus are very knowledgeable.

I think it safe to say any problem or bump along the way you've ran into has happened atleast 5-10 times over there already, so i'd be suprised if they didn't have a solution or atleast some advice for you and how to proceed.


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