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I need your help gentlemen... (pics)
    #14095102 - 03/09/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



My box is about 39L x 16.5W x 18H. I drew holes like in the PF-Tek DVD. I have about 3 inches of perlite in the bottom and about 2 of those inches are actual water (I poured in later). I read having water a certain amount below the top of the perlite was good in one tek, then i red having still water sitting in there isn't the best idea either, so I'm planning to redo the box here tonight or tomorrow. But I continue to air it out and mist water in there every so often, but my humidity (from what I can tell, unless the reader is off, which it is brand new) stays between 75% - 90%, which I feel/know it needs to be higher because none of the walls even show humidity, they are all dry other than water that gets on them from misting. Its been three days since I put them in the box, I soaked the 5 cakes in water for 24 hours, and only one of the cakes has two guys that are shooting for the stars. Which those two including some other small ones in the same exact area were pinning before I took the cakes out of the jars. Not one other cake or area on any cake has any sign of pins. My main guess is that the box is too big and leaking too much air from the holes. So, I guess I'm looking for opinions and have the main questions of, is it ok to have a box with no holes at all?


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14095112 - 03/09/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The cakes do look a dry.

Then again its only been three days, and I didn't know if I should wait 10 to see if anything changes.


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14095151 - 03/09/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you have water standing at the bottom of a SGFC the air can't get through the bottom holes and evaporate making humidity. FAE, light, and evaporation from the cakes are major pinning triggers. If you have bottom holes tear paper towels into strips, twist them into wicks and insert them into bottom holes to drain excess water. You will have to put something under it to catch water and it will take a few hours, but trust me it would be allot less messy and easier than scooping and re draining it. Plus you don't even have to take out the cakes.

Also if it is a sgfc you need to raise it off the table.


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14095162 - 03/09/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if you drill proper holes in sgfc..you can not pour water in later.fix your fc.give them 10-14 days


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14098236 - 03/10/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If you have water standing at the bottom of a SGFC the air can't get through the bottom holes and evaporate making humidity. FAE, light, and evaporation from the cakes are major pinning triggers. If you have bottom holes tear paper towels into strips, twist them into wicks and insert them into bottom holes to drain excess water. You will have to put something under it to catch water and it will take a few hours, but trust me it would be allot less messy and easier than scooping and re draining it. Plus you don't even have to take out the cakes.

Also if it is a sgfc you need to raise it off the table.




I didn't drill holes in the bottom because I originally thought that when I put wet perlite in there, it would drip out of the bottom. So there are no holes below/on the sides of the perlite layer. Does that make a huge difference?

What does SGFC and FAE stand for? I looked in the glossary, couldn't find those.


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14098268 - 03/10/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

SGFC - shotgun fruiting chamber

FAE- Fresh air exchange


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14098271 - 03/10/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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if you drill proper holes in sgfc..you can not pour water in later.fix your fc.give them 10-14 days



What???

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Raiin said:

I have about 3 inches of perlite in the bottom and about 2 of those inches are actual water (I poured in later). I read having water a certain amount below the top of the perlite was good in one tek, then i red having still water sitting in there isn't the best idea either, so I'm planning to redo the box here tonight or tomorrow.





Standing water in perlite is no good. Perlite needs to be drained well if you wick the water from the bottom holes it will be fine, if you don't have bottom holes you will have to remove everything and drill some for it to keep your humidity up. Just make sure you have holes drilled in the bottom, you get the standing water out, and you raise the SGFC up off of the table so that air can travel through the bottom holes and create humidity and FAE like it was designed to do. Your SGFC will work if you follow the tek to a T.

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I didn't drill holes in the bottom because I originally thought that when I put wet perlite in there, it would drip out of the bottom. So there are no holes below/on the sides of the perlite layer. Does that make a huge difference?

What does SGFC and FAE stand for? I looked in the glossary, couldn't find those.




Read this whole page and watch the video clip on it more than once.
SGFC= Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
FAE= Fresh air exchange
If your perlite is properly drained it wont drip and all of these things are very important. You will need to remove everything make a big mess and fix your FC if you want good results. SGFC works every time, watch the video till you know it by heart. Here is the link.

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: penhed]
    #14101702 - 03/10/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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penhed said:give them 10-14 days






Is it normal for pins that were formed in the jars to be growing this fast? I mean, I'm thinking I'm going to have to pick those two before the rest of the cakes pin (if they do). I made a new SGFC, following the tek as best as I could to the T. Used the correct sized drill bit, holes in the bottom, sides, top, etc. But my humidity still seems to be at like 80%? The reader doesn't show every number (1-100), so I'm guessing. If you do suggest I pick those two when they are ready, should I dunk after? You are suppose to dunk between picks (flushes) correct? And I should wait another 6-10 days before re-dunking if nothing pins correct?


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14105283 - 03/11/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Those look good.
It will be normal for some cakes to fruit before others.
Pick them when they are ready and go ahead with a dunk.

Did you rinse your perlite before putting it in there?
It may be a bit dry, hence the reason you have lower
humidity in there.


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: esquaredx]
    #14106884 - 03/12/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Those look good.
It will be normal for some cakes to fruit before others.
Pick them when they are ready and go ahead with a dunk.

Did you rinse your perlite before putting it in there?
It may be a bit dry, hence the reason you have lower
humidity in there.




The two mushrooms, that are pretty much ready to pick now, where already growing inside the jars before I birthed them. One of the reasons I think they are the only things growing from what I can tell. I rinsed the perlite VERY well, to the point it was still dripping out of my box when I moved it. But my humidity is still staying low / getting lower. When I got home tonight, the humidity looked to be around 65%-70%. My house humidity I know stays around optimum (30%) because we just had a brand new high end system installed. I dont know what to do to raise the humidity of the box.

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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Raiin]
    #14106920 - 03/12/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you have a huge tub man.... ass another couple inches of perlite and you should be better...


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14106942 - 03/12/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If the hygrometer is attached to the wall near the holes, it wont show you the correct humidity.
It will say something like 80% (because of the holes next to it) where there is 95% in the center of the chamber.
If you place it direct on the perlite it will always show you 100%.
Place the hygrometer on a sheet of tinfoil between your cakes, or on a fliped jar between the cakes.
Then you will get a better/more precise, measurement.


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Re: I need your help gentlemen... (pics) [Re: Luger0815]
    #14107808 - 03/12/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If there is water standing at the bottom of the tub no air will move through your bottom holes creating the humidity.


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