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Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster......
    #14094913 - 03/09/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck you. You are nothing more than glorified scalpers.  How can you sleep at night?


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14094924 - 03/09/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Easy.. this giant pile of money makes a great bed.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: n.dangerously]
    #14094943 - 03/09/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

haha yeah they suck mad ass
I wish bands and venues would get together and boycott them
I don't see how they aren't being prosecuted under antitrust laws


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #14094978 - 03/09/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't understand it either.  A show I really wanted to see sold out in about 10 minutes this morning.  I then find hundreds of these tickets on these sites for about 5-6x face value.
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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14095026 - 03/09/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I heard that ticketmaster funnels a certain number of tickets from each show to a subsidiary company that they own and jack up the price.

and even if your lucky enough to get the ticket before its "sold out" then you get to pay their "convenience" fee and a shipping fee and probably some other fee that I can't remember.

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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin] * 1
    #14095038 - 03/09/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ran into that the other day, it was cheaper to get tickets at the venue than it was to get discounted pre-sale tix+service fee. That's not how it is supposed to be.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #14095044 - 03/09/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my friend bought tickets on stubhub that where bunk.  I miss the days that a dude I knew used to make tickets himself. He used to draw them by hand.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14095073 - 03/09/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Stubhub is the devil. My parents and aunt and uncle wanted to go see a concert a few months ago and tasked me to getting the tickets. Well I accidentally reset the waiting line page and got fucked.

Instead of $50 tickets I had to go through stubhub at $150 a piece, and much worse seats.

I hated it so much. It wasn't my money and I wasn't even going to the show, but they had already booked a hotel and planned out a few winery tours before the show.

Fucking legal ticket scalpers. Bullshit, complete bullshit!


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14095089 - 03/09/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ya, fuck ticketmaster.

I wanted to see Bassnectar in Boston, shit sold out so fast and if I wanta ticket, it's $100.00. I can go see his Maine show for $25.00

fuck that


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14095091 - 03/09/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just really don't see how it's still legal.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14096796 - 03/10/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I just really don't see how it's still legal.




It's fuckin legal scalping. Fortunately most of the shows i've seen were relatively low key, so no need for paying overblown prices.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14097404 - 03/10/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck all of those ticket websites. I've had good luck going to shows and just seeing what happens lately though. It's shitty if you want to see a big name but I figure it just makes me go to more local shows so it's not too bad, I like local shows. I went to see Rush in Allentown, PA and got a ticket for about half price though a few months back :awesome:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14097413 - 03/10/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I never pay more than face, and I rarely even pay that.
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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14097438 - 03/10/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My major gripe with TicketMaster is that I can't pick which fucking seat I want to sit in.

At least with LiveNation or StubHub, I can see exactly where I'm going to be sitting-- on a map-- before I say, "OK, I want to pay an exorbitant amount for these seats here."

With TicketMaster, you have to let it choose the cheapest or the best or whatever.
It's like, "I'll fucking decide which seats are the best here..."


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14097441 - 03/10/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All they would need to do to eliminate scalpers is require ID and your name on the ticket, or you otherwise could opt for Will Call if you don't know right away who you are bringing.  I too am royally pissed at ticket scalping sites.  I wish they would implement a measure like this.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: the spiral]
    #14097452 - 03/10/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Seriously I dont see why people buy tickets on-line. It's not like you cant wander around the parking lot looking for people who have extras they want to get rid of (and NOT scalpers) Im talking about people whose friends legitimately didnt make it that will let them go for half price.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14097470 - 03/10/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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All they would need to do to eliminate scalpers is require ID and your name on the ticket, or you otherwise could opt for Will Call if you don't know right away who you are bringing.  I too am royally pissed at ticket scalping sites.  I wish they would implement a measure like this.




That's what they do at most raves/ shows I go to.:shrug:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14097487 - 03/10/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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All they would need to do to eliminate scalpers is require ID and your name on the ticket, or you otherwise could opt for Will Call if you don't know right away who you are bringing.  I too am royally pissed at ticket scalping sites.  I wish they would implement a measure like this.




That's what they do at most raves/ shows I go to.:shrug:




perhaps there is hope after all :smile:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: gzuf]
    #14098372 - 03/10/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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gzuf said:
Fuck all of those ticket websites. I've had good luck going to shows and just seeing what happens lately though. It's shitty if you want to see a big name but I figure it just makes me go to more local shows so it's not too bad, I like local shows. I went to see Rush in Allentown, PA and got a ticket for about half price though a few months back :awesome:




I go to a ton of local shows, I live in the self-proclaimed music capital of the world.  But we have a lot of big names that roll through town that I hate to miss out on.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14098398 - 03/10/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Seriously I dont see why people buy tickets on-line. It's not like you cant wander around the parking lot looking for people who have extras they want to get rid of (and NOT scalpers) Im talking about people whose friends legitimately didnt make it that will let them go for half price.




Seriously, why use a broker?

I grew up getting tickets from scalpers with my dad and we never paid face, much less above for anything.

I go to a ton of Chicago Cubs games, which are perpetually sold out, and I've never paid face for anything.

If you're even remotely intelligent it should be possible to get into any venue for less than the listed amount.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14098416 - 03/10/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I'm not going to drive three hours away to a show not even having tickets. What scalper would sell tickets less than what he bought them for?:facepalm:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14098437 - 03/10/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, I'm not going to drive three hours away to a show not even having tickets. What scalper would sell tickets less than what he bought them for?:facepalm:




One who's desperate to just get inside to the show...

I mean, a regular guy drives to the show late. Gets there while the opening act is probably coming on. Rushes inside to see if the opening act is any good, get a beer, get food, smoke a bowl, etc.

I wouldn't drive 3 hours away without tickets either though. :thumbup:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14098479 - 03/10/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, I'm not going to drive three hours away to a show not even having tickets. What scalper would sell tickets less than what he bought them for?:facepalm:




Any scalper that doesn't want to lose all of his money?

Seriously, do you not understand that?

A scalper buys tickets hoping to sell them.

The show/game/event is about to start.

He hasn't sold them.

Do you think he's going to keep them?

:rofl:


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14098519 - 03/10/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, but that's just counterproductive selling tickets less than what you bought them for. It cuts into any profit you made off the tickets you did sell.

I would much rather buy my tickets online and pay a $7 service charge. Besides, every event I've been to in the past two or three years require an ID and the credit card you bought the tickets with. It's impossible to just buy the tickets from scalpers at the events I attend.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14098734 - 03/10/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Besides, every event I've been to in the past two or three years require an ID and the credit card you bought the tickets with. It's impossible to just buy the tickets from scalpers at the events I attend.




:thumbup::thumbup:

When will ticketmaster and artists and venues all catch on? It makes me wonder whether they are the same people running the scalping sites. If you are selling out shows, raise the ticket price! That money should go to the artists not to ticket scalpers


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14098804 - 03/10/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I go to a ton of local shows, I live in the self-proclaimed music capital of the world.  But we have a lot of big names that roll through town that I hate to miss out on.




Yeah that's always a problem.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14099338 - 03/10/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol, maybe you have no problem getting Chicago Cubs tickets from your friendly neighborhood scalper at less than face value, but try that when a medium to large-following band rolls through town and plays a medium sized or smaller venue.  These fuckers are organized, work fast, have supervisors with clipboards and shit and are all black, for whatever that's worth.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Viveka]
    #14099378 - 03/10/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Lol, maybe you have no problem getting Chicago Cubs tickets from your friendly neighborhood scalper at less than face value, but try that when a medium to large-following band rolls through town and plays a medium sized or smaller venue.  These fuckers are organized, work fast, have supervisors with clipboards and shit and are all black, for whatever that's worth.




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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Viveka]
    #14099544 - 03/10/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Lol, maybe you have no problem getting Chicago Cubs tickets from your friendly neighborhood scalper at less than face value, but try that when a medium to large-following band rolls through town and plays a medium sized or smaller venue.  These fuckers are organized, work fast, have supervisors with clipboards and shit and are all black, for whatever that's worth.




Hmm, I'm pretty sure the secondary market for Cubs tickets is greater than that of Phish, or whatever shitty band you are following around.

They are probably the most in-demand ticket in sports, in one of the biggest markets in the world, and one of the smallest stadiums.

All of the tickets for the entire season commonly sell out within minutes of going on sale.

I just don't think people know how to handle scalpers correctly.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14099604 - 03/10/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Hmm, I'm pretty sure the secondary market for Cubs tickets is greater than that of Phish, or whatever shitty band you are following around.




Oh bullshit.  How many seats are there in a typical sports stadium?  Wrigley field has over 40,000.  And how often do you think pedestrian middle America goes "Oh, we have to take little Johnny to his skin flute recital, guess we'll have to miss the Cubs game tonight, oh well, we can go next week. 

Compare that to when A Perfect Circle comes to town once in ten years and plays a medium-small venue.  Why don't you share how you would go about "handling scalpers correctly" to obtain less than face value tickets?  Let me guess, you'd wait until the show started then get your ticket at 50% discount from Blacky McScalpsalot?  Not gonna happen dude.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Viveka]
    #14099615 - 03/10/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Hmm, I'm pretty sure the secondary market for Cubs tickets is greater than that of Phish, or whatever shitty band you are following around.




Oh bullshit.  How many seats are there in a typical sports stadium?  Wrigley field has over 40,000.  And how often do you think pedestrian middle America goes "Oh, we have to take little Johnny to his skin flute recital, guess we'll have to miss the Cubs game tonight, oh well, we can go next week. 

Compare that to when A Perfect Circle comes to town once in ten years and plays a medium-small venue.  Why don't you share how you would go about "handling scalpers correctly" to obtain less than face value tickets?  Let me guess, you'd wait until the show started then get your ticket at 50% discount from Blacky McScalpsalot?  Not gonna happen dude.




Compare the number of A Perfect Circle fans to the number of Cubs fans.

I mean, seriously.

Do you think more people like that crap band than the freaking Cubs?

Really?

I would expect that there are exponentially more people wanting to see said Cubs game than the concert, leading to exponentially higher demand for tickets.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #14099724 - 03/10/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If the number of Cubs fans vs the number of A Perfect Circle fans was the only factor you might have a case.

How many Cubs games happen every single year, year after year?  50?  100?  And what, half of those or more are all in Chicago? I don't know because baseball is fucking stupid.  And what's the capacity of Wrigley field?  I know that - over 40,000.

Now let's consider the Tool show I wanted to see a few years back when they rolled through town for one night for the first time in years and played a venue that seats about 2,000 people.  What do you think was more in demand, that Tool show or some fucking Cubs game.  Gee.


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Re: Dear StubHub, FrontGate Tickets, TicketMaster...... [Re: Viveka]
    #14099914 - 03/10/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

FYI a baseball season consists of 162 games....fuck scalpers and fuck the shit outta ticketmaster, livenation, etc. I'm legally being robbed!


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