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Toe_Jam
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: floatingwater]
#14096613 - 03/10/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd say mushrooms for sure. Much less body load in my opinion, acid usually gives me cramping and gas later in the trip. Visuals come more easily on mushrooms and seem more... natural. Less ... plastic. This is all just my opinion of course.
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Toe_Jam
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14096623 - 03/10/11 07:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Plus I mean, if you locate your own mushrooms in nature, after some hard work and have a nice woodland trip... Nothing is more awe inspiring.
And they're free
-------------------- God lay his finger at the Mouth of the Serpent March 1984   A pleasing land of drowsy head it was, Of dreams that wave before the half-shut eye, And of gay castles in the clouds that pass, For ever flushing round a summer sky. -Castle of Indolence
Edited by Toe_Jam (03/10/11 07:53 AM)
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14096636 - 03/10/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I vote acid
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Ferdinando]
#14097092 - 03/10/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The first time I ever tripped was on shrooms. But the funny thing was my buddies and I, on that morning, took 2 hits of cid each. After 2 hours of waiting and not feeling a damn thing we bought some shrooms and tripped on those instead. We all had an amazing time tripping in my apartment and it was a great first time entering that other world. So I'd like to think that the shrooms wanted me to try them first.
Since then I've tripped acid around 4 times and shrooms a bit more. I'd say I enjoy Acid just a tad more, likely because of the rarity and the massive amount of fun and energy. If I have any sort of problem that I need answering, LSD lets me easily figure it out.. it's pure magic.
So I'd say acid if you can find it and it's not bunk. Good vibes brother
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Ferdinando


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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: TagoMago]
#14097141 - 03/10/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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acid is a very pure catalyst for extending mind signals the basis for intelligence (one definition of intelligence is the ability to perceive connections) is extended an extended thought will lead the way to an increase in the number of direct associations the duration of these associations' appearance in the mind is equally extended and so on until the acid starts wearing off
shroom does the same thing and part of it's effect is a different flavor
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Ferdinando]
#14098098 - 03/10/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man it's a tough one but like what most have said shrooms are a bit more of the sure fire bet. You know what your getting into a little better and what your taking. Like said acid is very unpredictable some can be fire other can be dry. Id say do a good dose of mushies lie 2-3 grams. Ally D can be a real bitch sometimes in all honesty and can get exhausting. I've had trips were It wasn't bad I just had enough and wanted to sleep lol. Also I think time gets so distorted on acid compared to shrooms even in low doses. If you go with the acid as a first try try and make sure your getting some decent shit like ask if you have friends who have had it get there opinions. I would take 2-3 hits to trust me I've had plenty o acid that I took a hit or two and just got mindfucked to the max for 10 hours and didn't get strong visuals.
Have a sitter who you trust. Good set and setting. And enjoy it to the fullest. You gotta be able to let go of everything to don't fight it ride it. Goodluck man have fun
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ifoundwaldo


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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: delvecc2066]
#14098160 - 03/10/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Acid has more potential for recreational use. A low dose would be good your first time; I'd say 2 hits.
However, acid is a little more taxing on your body (tensing muscles and such). And it lasts about twice as long.
Just go into the trip with plenty of energy (e.g. early afternoon or so).
Happy trails.
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: floatingwater]
#14098400 - 03/10/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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floatingwater said: computers (mac/apple specifcally) -> steve jobs has been upfront about his LSD usage. structure of DNA -> watson and crick (I think it was crick that had some glimpses of what the DNA structure should look like on a low dose acid trip). He was all ready playing around with several structural ideas at the time.
Steve Jobs didn't invent the computer. Rosalind Franklin's photograph of a DNA molecule was shown to Watson and Crick without her knowledge or consent, and W&C later took credit for its discovery.
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ifoundwaldo


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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: abltsandwich]
#14098425 - 03/10/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said:
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floatingwater said: computers (mac/apple specifcally) -> steve jobs has been upfront about his LSD usage. structure of DNA -> watson and crick (I think it was crick that had some glimpses of what the DNA structure should look like on a low dose acid trip). He was all ready playing around with several structural ideas at the time.
Steve Jobs didn't invent the computer. Rosalind Franklin's photograph of a DNA molecule was shown to Watson and Crick without her knowledge or consent, and W&C later took credit for its discovery.
But would we have Cherry Garcia ice cream without LSD? I don't think so.
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Toe_Jam
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14102615 - 03/11/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said: Acid has more potential for recreational use.
Not following you here.... Is this your opinion, or do you have some reference?
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ifoundwaldo


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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14103137 - 03/11/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said:
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ifoundwaldo said: Acid has more potential for recreational use.
Not following you here.... Is this your opinion, or do you have some reference?
Yes, it's my opinion but also the opinion of others.
Acid trips are a lot easier to control, especially at high doses. The whole trip can be as serious or as playful as you want it...IMHO.
Whereas a shroom trip can really grab you by the balls, and take you places you don't want to go. Not necessarily bad, but it could be a little unnerving your first time.
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14103874 - 03/11/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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basically, it doesn't really matter which you try first. Each one is different, and has it's pros and cons. But at the end of the day, each will make you trip.
What do you have available to you? That's the question. LSD can be a little hard to find for some people (good LSD anyways). Whereas shrooms can be found growing in your area, and there is likely somebody who is cultivating them in your town.
I would recommend you find some indoor cultivated shrooms, or grow your own. That way you know exactly what you're getting. Picking outdoor shrooms can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, and sometimes what is sold as LSD is really some research chemical like DOI or DOB, etc.
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Re: hmmm...Shrroms first or Acid first...I need some help here [Re: Love2trip]
#14105163 - 03/11/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Love2trip said: trust me I've had plenty o acid that I took a hit or two and just got mindfucked to the max for 10 hours and didn't get strong visuals.
That has nothing to do with the acid though. It seems some acid can have headier or more visual tendencies but that doesn't mean it's lower or higher quality necessarily. It really depends a lot on your mindset at the beginning of the come-up, I had this stuff that absolutely would not give me visuals...every trip the only visuals I'd get would be writing on the walls for a few minutes on the come-up which would then go away, same on 1 hit or 6. Then on the 6-hitter while everything looked really fluid and brightly colored and was sort of morphing, nothing was really warping like it should've been, that's for sure. And I didn't mind, I enjoy the trip just as much either way really, but I just sort of thought it was weird to be tripping absolute face and having no visuals.
Then I sort of reached the "holy grail" of my headfuck and actually managed to grab that point you're always reaching out for, for once...and then my entire universe basically dissolved in front of my eyes and I completely forgot who/where/what I was in a matter of seconds. I was on the phone and the person said they just heard my voice trail off from being completely coherent to absolute gibberish and then nothing.
Anyway, a week or two later I dropped a two hitter from the same batch, had basically no mindfuck, and had visuals intense enough that I was having extreme difficulty texting because the numbers/letters were melting off my phone.
Sorry for the lengthy post, just wanted to point out that the whole heady vs visual acid seems to be quite a bit in people's heads.
Edited by tokinman21 (03/11/11 06:10 PM)
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