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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: Patlal]
    #14087670 - 03/08/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

As soon as I finish my Postdoc.

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Re: The First Annual Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14087878 - 03/08/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14088619 - 03/08/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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As soon as I finish my Postdoc.





I didn't think you had a doctoral degree. :shrug:

I do know what the word "doctor" means of course.


So maybe you mean in a somewhat strictly literal sense that you've become a teacher yourself, and now you're doing research afterward?


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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: faceyneck]
    #14088718 - 03/08/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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As soon as I finish my Postdoc.





In a somewhat strictly literal sense, you've become a teacher yourself, and now you're doing research afterward?



I don't know bro, you tell me? Would you consider what we do research?

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14088767 - 03/08/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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As soon as I finish my Postdoc.





In a somewhat strictly literal sense, you've become a teacher yourself, and now you're doing research afterward?



I don't know bro, you tell me? Would you consider what we do research?




Yup. :awesomenod:

I'd do more if I could. Anything involving agar and a flowhood is probably research of some kind! :lol:


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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: faceyneck]
    #14088893 - 03/08/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't know bro, you tell me? Would you consider what we do research?




Yup. :awesomenod:

I'd do more if I could. Anything involving agar and a flowhood is probably research of some kind! :lol:





Do you experiment with your grows? Try to find something that works or works better and then possibly improve on it?

If you answer is YES. then...

Yes what you do is considered research.
(weather or not it is sanctioned is another answer.)

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: Stains Blue]
    #14090760 - 03/09/11 03:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well, that was a sarcastic question guys :shrug:but,...

I think we should start an Independent Research Foundation (IRP).

It would help support people like us who are not interested in surrendering to labs funded by pharmaceutical companies or corporate investors. Sadly that is the direction research has headed in the last 20 years,. :idea:

I actually work in a Physical Activity Behavior and Cognition lab and an Energy Metabolism lab in what little free time I get.

Working there for a year after graduation as a research assistant teaches you a thing or two about the shady doings of academia. :facepalm:


Its kind of why I started this thread. There are a lot of very bright people here who I feel deserve to be recognized for their efforts in mycology and their dedication to this forum......
Yet they are completely ignored and overlooked by people calling themselves scientist who play with flash drivers, computers, and stats all day.

In my world real scientist are bench scientists, not people with excellent computer skills who know how to process textbook knowledge. Processing a bunch of equations and learning something like the fungi life cycle are like night and day.   
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That is not to say don't learn math because if you don't your life on this planet will be a lot harder than it has to be or would be if you look the time and effort to do so.....


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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14090814 - 03/09/11 03:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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shady doings of academia




Elaborate. In what direction should i be thinking when reading this?


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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: virus1824]
    #14090851 - 03/09/11 04:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

too many too mention but special thanks to;

Hyphae - getiing me stoopid noob Q's and initial help
RR - font of knowledge
Ch Hell - super kindness
Ohmatic - great monotub info


and everyone else whos hit me up with kindness.

Badman,Hoodbran
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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: FractalXplora]
    #14091093 - 03/09/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is just one in a million cases that I am referencing,.


The Truth about Academia,

First the story of what pushed me over the edge.  I had been growing increasingly ambivalent about academia in general, and didn't really like the direction in which my thesis was moving.  Basically I wanted to throw in the towel but was afraid and didn't want to regret it later.  I needed a critical event that would help me decide once and for all.

In math, you're expected to study lecture notes, and then fill in all the details yourself, or ask for help if you get stuck.  But my advisor expected me to not need help, and got upset when I did need help (mind you this is help in proving theorems which run chapters long).  I had been carefully typing my own versions of the proofs, since some of the proofs in the notes were done sloppily.  My advisor agreed that my proofs could eventually be sent to the authors of these lecture notes (which were published in book form by the American Math Society).

The explosive event that forced me to make a decision was this: I wrote a critical review of the lecture notes book on Amazon.com.  The author contacted me shortly after asking me to clarify what I thought was incorrect about one of the proofs.  So I just emailed him my typed proofs.  Since I hadn't been getting the help I needed from my advisor, I figured this could open a line of communication to someone who would be able to help.  I did at least give credit to my advisor for some of the ideas, and CC'd the email to her as well.

This totally backfired.  The first reply I got was from my advisor, saying "... I couldn't believe my eyes when I realized what a foolish thing you had done...".  The reply from the authors was that the proofs were not incorrect, but that it was just a typo.  And all he had to say about my proof was that "you skipped the induction step", which everyone skips anyway.  His conclusion was that, although I am free to say what I want, my review was totally inappropriate and would not be tolerated in a more academic setting.

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Allow me to interpret what happened here because it will reveal the truth about why academia is NOT primarily in the business of discovery and of acquiring knowledge for the benefit of man, but operates more like a priestly sect which reserves knowledge among the most initiated, for the sole reason that knowledge equals power.

My advisor was so angry with me because she was only concerned with how it would affect her reputation.  Keep in mind that the authors of these lecture notes were the ones who introduced the germinal ideas which allowed all the underling professors to have something to do.  Was she worried she would be seen as a bad teacher if my proofs had any mistakes?  Or was it simply bad etiquette to go to the higher-ups without consulting first?  I strongly suspect the former and not the latter.

This shows clearly that the name of the game is reputation, reputation, reputation.  I was one of the hardest working students in our department, and was far more into going to conferences and reading journal articles than anyone else I knew.  The reason they came down so hard on me was because of this: people who think like me threaten them.  They don't want reviews on Amazon.com that say there might be mistakes in the proofs, because that damages reputation, and the general person cannot check for himself their correctness.

This shows they care more about their reputations than the soul of their ideas, for had the latter been exalted, they would know that without serious and dedicated graduate students, their work would eventually fall into the dark void of time.  Had education and not reputation been their primary goals, then they would have been more willing to help.  It doesn't matter if I like the ideas and think they're beautiful, it just matters that they continue to publish and get funding.

I hope this makes you grad students do some thinking.  As I am discovering, there are a growing number of ways for original thinkers to get their ideas out.  If you care about the soul of your ideas, don't go into academia.  But if all you care about is reputation, then you can take the academic route.  Just don't go around acting like you have a monopoly on truth, wisdom, or knowledge just because you've got a PhD and work as a professor.
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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14091917 - 03/09/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

sucks that i keep hearing that academia sucks dick :[


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    #14092061 - 03/09/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Its not that it sucks dick. Its just that it is real easy to get wrapped up in a bunch of bullshit and loose sight of your true goals in that type of setting.

ha! Its almost like being a rock star. There is so much demand and pressure.

Why do you think most really good bands only have a couple really talented albums. Then a bunch of shit once they are burnt out and practically being forced to produce.

I'm just saying that it is much more beneficial for the human soul to to be able to explore science for oneself without all the pressure and backstabbing bullshit.

I highly doubt if Darwin was in a setting like that that he would have seen nature and understood things for what they are.

I'm pretty sure it took some free spirited scientific exploration to pull that one off. ......

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14092079 - 03/09/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm just saying that it is much more beneficial for the human soul to to be able to explore science for oneself without all the pressure and backstabbing bullshit.




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    #14092152 - 03/09/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Me too, I finally won that argument though.

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14094193 - 03/09/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Correct me if I am wrong.

Knowledge + Reputation = Power + Money

College is more like a business.
They are ran like a business.
They recruit and "hire" (accept applicants) like business's hire employees, The most qualified.
They rely on a product in order to make $$$
(There product is knowledge and a good teaching staff with good reputations)

College now a days is about the all mighty dollar.

America went through a recession... College tuition still steadily climbed...
Student loans will tack on HUGE interests rates once you graduate...
(Because when you graduate is when the big job oppotyunities open up.
and the institution you got a loan through knows your worth more... so know they want more $$$)

College = Big Business.
Why do you think college football is so heavily supported in universities?

Auburn University - Alabama won the National Championship this year.
It cost Auburn $2,901,706 just to keep the team running for 9 day trip to the National Championship.
That includes the band, staff, team, coaches ect...

Auburn also spent $19,648 in entertainment, $50,335 in promotion, $31,014 for awards and $87,847 for equipment and supplies.

It takes money to make money. I want to know hoe much the University MADE by winning the national championship....



It is Big Business...

With out a good reputation you make less $$$


That is why they are probably so protective in protecting there knowledge.






Prof Pin. You would be a threat to there livelihood if you was to re write it and sell it as "truth"
and people would loose a lot of money.

But like I said in the beginning. Correct me if I am wrong... There is no $$$ to be made here.
I won't threaten, say your incorrect or tell you thats not accepted in shroomery academia

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: Stains Blue]
    #14094240 - 03/09/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

YOU NEED TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY!

And you need to be in the right place at the right time just like anything else but trust me when I say this bro. There is definitely both money to be made and money being made around here. Its just a matter of how much you really got to put in.

Venture capital helps.

Remember the old adage ... " college scholarship strain" ......  It is a pretty powerful statement.

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14094260 - 03/09/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

But you are right. I should not knock teachers on my own teaching award thread....

Too much weed today

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14094487 - 03/09/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

officially praising FaceyNeck. a lot of others have helped indirectly just by posting such great info and teks, but Facey has gone out of his way to give me some damn fine help via posts and pms.

:tongue2: thanks Facey! :sun:

and thx ProfP for making this thread :thumbup:

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: Primal Call]
    #14096381 - 03/10/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

An Anonymous member PM'd me this morning about the post I made up thread about academia.
They said that they were interested in pursuing a doctorate and that they were unaware of such things. Their desire in continuing their education couldn't be more appropriate for any other place than this thread. This is the most personal PM I have ever sent on this site and also one I would like to share with the ommunity as a whole.

The member will remain anonymous but they know who they are :smile:

This is the story of the origin of my user name, Professor Pinhead.

So here it is.

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I don't usual type so much in my responses to PM's, but you asked about school and in doing so hit an artery. To me getting an education is the most important thing a human being will ever do in their lives, aside from reproducing.

I would suggest going back for sure. It will completely/permanently change your life for the better. Especially if you chose a major like !@#$% <-[It was a science].

I don't have anything against academia per-say but I just wanted to point out that it isn't this ivory throned perfect life of honor that everyone who doesn't hold a PhD thinks it is.

It sounds fucked up to say but in academia many are just as cut throat as drug deals and business men. Many of the people in the top of academia have literally trampled over people and stolen ideas to get there. This is not a place I would be proud to be.

However, I should have mentioned something I didn't; that some of the most influential, caring, compassionate people I have met also reside in academia. Sometimes I come off much more negatively than I should. It is a big fault of mine that I need to work on.

I will eventually finish my doctorate but not for the reasons that they would have me do it for.

I am going to do it merely as a big fuck you to all of the assholes I have met in any school system that didn't believe in me or any other kid out there who they didn't believe in, who never made it to where I am intellectually. Shame on them for ruining lives because they don't know how to do their jobs properly.

Something I never mention on the forums is that I was an extremely poor student in high school; graduating almost last in my class by the skin of my teeth. They always told me I wasn't as smart as everyone else and I had "learning problems". They put me in a special education classroom when I was in 3rd grade and I always knew I was an outlier on the wrong side of the curve. In other works I did not belong in there. I felt 5000 times smarter than any of the other kids in those class rooms. Long story short I was tossed to the curb by the public school system.

To this day and for the rest of my life I will always know if the right teachers had been at that school I would be a medical doctor toady. When I finally did go back to school, which I always planned on doing, I graduated with a 3.4 from !@#$ having worked in 4 labs in the !@#$ department. This is a pre-med program, which let me add are not easy degrees to obtain. I had a 3.8 going into the fall semester of my senior year. That is when I really let go and decided mycology was for me. I sacrificed 4 points on that GPA, but left college a mycologist.If anyone on !@# !@#$%^&* has any questions about my skills/abilities to cultivate...., I paid off my !@,$%^ dollar college dept in $%^&* after I graduated! You do the math on that one.
 
The thing is people like you and me don't actually really need to go as far as a PhD with our education to become just as educated as someone with one. For someone in their #%'s to get a science degree it enables them to then if they so wish to follow through with their education on their own. We have something that the professors admire and love much more than the other undergrads who are very young and naive. We have this irreplaceable thing called life experience that sets us far apart from the rest.

I other words you will have to work hard but you will excel, trust me!

Here is a story to reinforce what I am saying....

A friend of mine who is a doctor and knows what I do and has seen it in person said this.

Keep in mind he has a PhD, he knows I am involved in the blue varieties but that my overall intent in studying fungi has a much deeper purpose than that ....

"holey shit bro this is real science here! I don't care what anyone says this is far beyond that of undergraduate studies. It appears to me you've been working on your masters... and beyond here in secret. You are crazy, man if doctor #$%@! could see this, Good work"

I told him about Paul Samets, RR, Mckenna, Professor Fanaticus, and my plans for independent research.

I told him I wanted to start an independent research foundation. 

He told me he thinks it is an entrepreneurial idea.

My point is this. Sky is the limit; a classical science training will dramatically increase to size of the horizon of that sky. Thus, leaving the limit boundless.

If you feel as though you want a doctorate fuck them, Go get it. But just keep in mind they play just as dirty in those class rooms as we did in the streets of the city I grew up in .... and let me tell ya that ain't no pretty place to play.

If you need any advice on any school related stuff please feel free to shoot me a PM anytime. I am very big on education. We are going to destroy this planet if more people don't join in adopting this attitude. It is the only chance we have to turn back the clock.

That is not some fluffy granola/hippi shit. It is a matter mathematical and scientific fact. We have done serious damage to our planet.

If we don't start changing our actions now we are going to wind up an extinct species. Not to mention the thousands of other species we are going to take with us when we go. :frown:

Maybe now you have a deeper understanding of the reasoning behind the the username Professor PinHead.



Yours Truly,

Prof_P.

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Re: The Offical Shroomery Distinguished Teaching Awards [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14096421 - 03/10/11 05:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This thread is becoming more and more interesting. I don't have much time so I'll be brief.  Personally I didn't learn anything from school (I have a master's degree) so when someone asks me how to get an education I say:"Go to a library and start reading, if you have guts". I am not the only one who thinks that school is at least useless (if not harmful).

Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.
Albert Einstein

I've never let my school interfere with my education.
Mark Twain

There is only one school of literature - that of talent.
Vladimir Nabokov

A child educated only at school is an uneducated child.
George Santayana

I never learned anything at all in school and didn't read a book for pleasure until I was 19 years old.
Stanley Kubrick

I was the kind of kid that had some talents or ability, but it never came out in school.
Francis Ford Coppola

If you want to learn more about the school system, I suggest to read Michel Foucault (Discipline and Punish) or Ivan Illich (Deschooling society).

Thanks Professor. Have a nice day :hatsoff:


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