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Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights
    #14094355 - 03/09/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/wis-gop-strips-public-865928.html

They did it by removing the fiscal policies which made it so they didn't need the 14 Dems to vote on it.

What the fuck


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: learningtofly]
    #14094364 - 03/09/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

contract expired this month, I'd have one upped them if I were him and
refused to renew the contract, called in scabs to finish out the year
and told them all to fuck right the hell off, see how they like their
collective joblessness

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: learningtofly] * 2
    #14094366 - 03/09/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Man, that's fucked up.

I wonder how many Americans believe this is actually about the budget...:rolleyes:


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14094386 - 03/09/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
contract expired this month, I'd have one upped them if I were him and
refused to renew the contract, called in scabs to finish out the year
and told them all to fuck right the hell off, see how they like their
collective joblessness



That's a joke right?


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: learningtofly]
    #14094403 - 03/09/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:bubbles:


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14094405 - 03/09/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Classic Pris reply I see above . . . :rolleyes: go go fascism, kill that big boogeyman organized labor!

Meanwhile back on Earth . . . They agreed to the cuts as asked. The pension fund is over 99 percent solvent. Liar Gov Walker is only serving the Koch brothers. This is about busting unions, nothing more. Well, a little more - he also needs to make sure the Koch bros get a stab at Wisconsin utilities in a no-bid fashion, price to be set by the Gov.

Oh and hopefully they'll be able to steal the pension money. That is deferred salary the teachers EARNED under agreement. I am sure fascist nutjobs here and elsewhere think it is OK to steal that money from the teachers though right? Maybe they can just transfer it directly to the Koch brothers.

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14094422 - 03/09/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, let's cut the taxes on the rich, and use the teachers' money to pay for it.  Our kids don't really matter that much anyway.


On a similar note, you hear about the girl who was killed in Florida last week by her foster parents, and just a week later we're cutting 1800 DCF jobs here?

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: BothHands]
    #14094454 - 03/09/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

eh they are overpaid anyways


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: masterharf]
    #14094463 - 03/09/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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masterharf said:
eh they are overpaid anyways



really? how much less should they be paid? And why should corporations (who get paid a lot more, in case you didn't know that) get to pay less?


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: learningtofly] * 1
    #14094465 - 03/09/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
Quote:

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contract expired this month, I'd have one upped them if I were him and
refused to renew the contract, called in scabs to finish out the year
and told them all to fuck right the hell off, see how they like their
collective joblessness



That's a joke right?





absolutely not... I refuse to be held hostage, as a private company, I'd shut
the doors, rename and reopen with new employees, raises and shit should be
given on merit, shitty employees should not be allowed to hang around at my
expense which ultimately drives me out of business, in this instance
wisconsin has a $137mil deficit and I'm sure a lot of that is frivolous
spending but a chunk of that comes from the same problem that most schools
are suffering from, teachers that cant be kept around students but cant be fired

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: masterharf] * 2
    #14094477 - 03/09/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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masterharf said:
eh they are overpaid anyways




That is laughable.

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: masterharf] * 1
    #14094478 - 03/09/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

50,000 a year is overpaid?  Are you joking?  Teaching is an extraordinarily important job.

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: BothHands] * 2
    #14094493 - 03/09/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Let us not forget, Gov Walker punched a hole in the budget as soon as he took office with several hundred million in giveaways to corporate interest. This in a state where most corps pay ZERO tax, and the corporate tax climate is already pretty good.

By giving away more to big concerns, while squeezing the working man, Gov Walker is facilitating a direct transfer of wealth from working people to powerful interests and rich people. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. This is the essence of the agenda the nutjobs in congress are pushing too, why do you think keeping tax rates for the top tier was so important? You are an idiot if you think it was going to affect job creation, and also the republitard talking points about damage to small business on this issue are demonstrably false; in fact most are outright lies.

The media won't report any of this, because they are owned by the very interests destroying this country for a few more dollars. I am fucking sick of it.

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14094497 - 03/09/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

learningtofly said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
contract expired this month, I'd have one upped them if I were him and
refused to renew the contract, called in scabs to finish out the year
and told them all to fuck right the hell off, see how they like their
collective joblessness



That's a joke right?





absolutely not... I refuse to be held hostage, as a private company, I'd shut
the doors, rename and reopen with new employees, raises and shit should be
given on merit, shitty employees should not be allowed to hang around at my
expense which ultimately drives me out of business, in this instance
wisconsin has a $137mil deficit and I'm sure a lot of that is frivolous
spending but a chunk of that comes from the same problem that most schools
are suffering from, teachers that cant be kept around students but cant be fired



Please what a bunch of fucking Bullshit pris.
You aren't being "held hostage" by school teachers or unions. If it weren't for unions, workers wouldn't get paid shit. And I don't believe for a fucking second that you would give them a decent wage if you had the choice.

That 137mil def sure isn't being helped by giving corporations a free ride. How about taxing the people who actually have money instead of taxing people who don't have shit?

Walker is clearly in this to make money from the Kochs, how blind are you?


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: BothHands]
    #14094499 - 03/09/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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50,000 a year is overpaid?  Are you joking?  Teaching is an extraordinarily important job.




i just realized teachers are actually overpaid babysitters


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14094504 - 03/09/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What are you talking about?  Do you know what tenure is? 

"Tenure commonly refers to life tenure in a job and specifically to a senior academic's contractual right not to have his or her position terminated without just cause."

Being a shitty teacher would definitely be considered just cause.

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: masterharf]
    #14094509 - 03/09/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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masterharf said:
Quote:

BothHands said:
50,000 a year is overpaid?  Are you joking?  Teaching is an extraordinarily important job.




i just realized teachers are actually overpaid babysitters



Do you have any idea what it takes to be a teacher?


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: BothHands]
    #14094517 - 03/09/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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BothHands said:
Yeah, let's cut the taxes on the rich, and use the teachers' money to pay for it.  Our kids don't really matter that much anyway.




really? private school teachers make less and arent unionized yet the kids
get a better education, how will we explain that away, corporate greed?


Quote:

On a similar note, you hear about the girl who was killed in Florida last week by her foster parents, and just a week later we're cutting 1800 DCF jobs here?




how many times was DFCS out there checking on the kid, it's certainly not
the first time this has happened, I've seen how they operate and after
seeing it, DFCS needs to be abolished

one girl that lived next to my brother neglected and abused her kids, she
had 2 and was expecting a 3rd, all welfare kids, all her neighbors were
calling DFCS about it, they'd call and allow her to clean up her mess for
a few days prior to a visit, 3 times the cops were called to her place
because of her bipolar rages, all 3 times the cops called DFCS and the
kids were still never removed from the home... the system is fucked,
abolish it

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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: learningtofly]
    #14094529 - 03/09/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
Do you have any idea what it takes to be a teacher?




For anything less than a college professor, not much.

The unions are too strong to allow the massive education overhauls that we need.


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Re: Jesus fucking christ, Walker just stripped workers of their collective bargaining rights [Re: badchad]
    #14094535 - 03/09/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I fail to see how completely taking away their right to even be at the table is justified.

Even if your unfounded claim is correct, why is it necessary to completely strip them of the right to even bargain?


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