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Are aliens on the moon?
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Honestly with all the evidence there is, i wouldn't doubt that there is life as close as just the moon.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Legend] 3
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There's no way species from two different planets wouldn't have openly communicated by now. And if they existed but we haven't communicated openly, then that can only mean one thing: Aliens are in on our gov't conspiracy and can't be trusted more than our own president. I choose to believe that life exists out there, but in this solar system we are the most advanced and conscious. Why? Because not one single shred of evidence proves it otherwise. EVIDENCE, not speculation.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Newbie]
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Newbie said: There's no way species from two different planets wouldn't have openly communicated by now. And if they existed but we haven't communicated openly, then that can only mean one thing: Aliens are in on our gov't conspiracy and can't be trusted more than our own president. I choose to believe that life exists out there, but in this solar system we are the most advanced and conscious. Why? Because not one single shred of evidence proves it otherwise. EVIDENCE, not speculation.
Evidence is out there. I have heard/seen interviews with apollo project astronauts who admitted seeing ufo/aliens during their missions. But what do I know, it could all be bullshit...i just dont think so. Now pass the tin foil.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: phxBoomer]
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No but the Nazis are, on the dark side that is.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Devlish2]
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its the greys and reptilians for sure.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Legend]
#14093562 - 03/09/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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After some dreams I had I've been interested in this too. Someone recently gave me Icke's new book Human Race Get Off Your Knees which talks about this in detail. I plan on starting the book soon.
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His most staggering revelation is that the Earth and the collective human mind is manipulated from the Moon, which, he says, is not a ‘heavenly body’, but an artificial construct – a gigantic ‘spacecraft’ (probably a hollowed-out 'planetoid') – which is home to the extraterrestrial group that has been manipulating humanity for aeons.
He describes what he calls the ‘Moon Matrix’, a fake reality broadcast from the Moon which is decoded by the human body/mind in much the same way as portrayed in the Matrix movie trilogy. The Moon Matrix has ‘hacked’ into the human ‘body-computer’ system, he says, and it is feeding us a manipulated sense of self and the world 24/7.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: muistrue]
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Hitler is still alive supposedly somewhere.
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ITs weird how everybody feels like if there were life this close we would have communicated with them already.
What if they arent that super advance spaceship aliens everyone thinks they are.
What if they are like we were at the time of the pyramids.
Barely any technology, no means to communicate further than how loud you can scream.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Patlal]
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smoke signals duhhhhhhhh
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: hidenseek]
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Well you know we can see and study the moon pretty clearly from Earth right? Even amateurs can do this quite well. What exactly are aliens eating, drinking, breathing, and using for shelter? Unless we're talking about life on the microscopic level I think it's pretty obvious there's no aliens on the moon.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: F0SS1L]
#14093690 - 03/09/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: F0SS1L]
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microscopic aliens that are smarter then us?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: hidenseek] 1
#14093754 - 03/09/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anyone who claims to know is a moron
how many of us has been there? eh???
how many of u guys have been to tha moon
every single vote from this board should be for stall/not sure
that's the only answer to that fucking question!!!
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Envix]
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i go to dennys, the waitress gives me moons over my hammy
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Envix] 2
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I say we launch our entire stock of thermonuclear cruise missles at the moon and end the reptilian holographic matrix pact
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Envix]
#14093806 - 03/09/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I astroprojected once but i got dust in my eye and then snapped out of it, however for one eyeblink before the dust hit, i briefly recall looking down and seeing someone wrote GTFO on the ground
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: hidenseek] 1
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There have been multiple astronauts to come forward and talk about what they have seen including Buzz Aldrin. That is pretty convincing evidence in my view, unless all these astronauts are lying.
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#14093821 - 03/09/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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there are probably alienz doin' thangs in ur cereal bowl
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Envix]
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Legend]
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Let's look at a few facts here.
1) The moon has ZERO atmosphere. 2) The moon has virtually no water (save for some rather sparse frozen crystals that reside in the dust on the surface). 3) Humans have physically been to the moon. 4) You can clearly see the entire bright side of the moon with even a low powered telescope. 5) The far side of the moon was fully imaged way back in the 1960s, and was seen by the astronauts on the Apollo 8 mission. 6) The moon is probably the MOST observed object in space due to its close proximity to Earth. 7) The presence of organic material on the moon does not equate life on the moon. Especially when the current theory of moon origin is that the moon is a chunk of the Earth that was blown away in our distant past. 8) And finally, I asked our reptilian overlords and they told me with certainty that there are no aliens on the moon. 
I become more and more disappointed by the critical thinking skills of the human race every day.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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who is to say aliens need water or an atmosphere?
edit: and what about the balls of light astronauts have claimed to seen, and have been captured on NASA video?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Rebirtha]
#14093920 - 03/09/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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And since when are balls of light considered to be "life"?
Nice ninja edit there, pal. I saw you say that there are balls of light living on the moon.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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I didn't edit after you posted, i put it back up.. And what about the astronauts that have come forward . But to answer your question, a ball of light moving at high speeds changing directions would indicate a sense of consciousness.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Rebirtha]
#14093953 - 03/09/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rebirtha said: I didn't edit after you posted. And what about the astronauts that have come forward . But ball of light moving at high speeds changing directions would indicate a sense of consciousness.
Sounds like he just watched a Kubrick movie and got confused. In that clip, Buzz Aldrin was talking about how there is a "monolith" on a moon of Mars? He hasn't even been to Mars. He's only been to the earth moon.
I think Buzz Aldrin may be getting a little senile, personally.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Patlal]
#14093967 - 03/09/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said: ITs weird how everybody feels like if there were life this close we would have communicated with them already.
What if they arent that super advance spaceship aliens everyone thinks they are.
What if they are like we were at the time of the pyramids.
Barely any technology, no means to communicate further than how loud you can scream.
Get me?
WE are the super advanced space ship aliens. WE have traveled to the moon and back. WE have powerful telescopes (and small ones too) that can clearly see everything going on on the surface of the moon. What, do you think the moon is hollow or something?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
#14093969 - 03/09/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I completely understand the desire to believe in life out there. I believe that there is life out there in the universe somewhere myself. But on our moon? Let's be realistic, shall we?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
#14093990 - 03/09/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Word. The moon is far too inhospitable for any current definition of life to exist.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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I love the description of one of these youtube videos someone posted:
"we always hear the UFO debunkers/naysayers whining and saying there's no proof of the Alien reality....well I say to them where's YOUR proof that Aliens do NOT exist? - show us your proof all you debunkers!"
That's not how science works, people. You don't have to prove that something DOESN'T exist, you have to prove that it DOES.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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Yes you are correct that is just what Alrdin believes is on Mars's moon, we don't know his reasoning. That video isn't the one where is talking about what he saw on the moon mission, this is the video:
And really that is one astronaut, there are many who have come forward.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Rebirtha]
#14094084 - 03/09/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A light moving Could have been many things - I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: muistrue]
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FractalDust said: After some dreams I had I've been interested in this too. Someone recently gave me Icke's new book Human Race Get Off Your Knees which talks about this in detail. I plan on starting the book soon.
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His most staggering revelation is that the Earth and the collective human mind is manipulated from the Moon, which, he says, is not a ‘heavenly body’, but an artificial construct – a gigantic ‘spacecraft’ (probably a hollowed-out 'planetoid') – which is home to the extraterrestrial group that has been manipulating humanity for aeons.
He describes what he calls the ‘Moon Matrix’, a fake reality broadcast from the Moon which is decoded by the human body/mind in much the same way as portrayed in the Matrix movie trilogy. The Moon Matrix has ‘hacked’ into the human ‘body-computer’ system, he says, and it is feeding us a manipulated sense of self and the world 24/7.
Well of course the son of god himself isnt crazy and wouldnt lie to us!
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Only on the shroomery could anybody get into a real argument over weather or not theres aliens on the moon
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: hidenseek]
#14094227 - 03/09/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hidenseek said: i go to dennys, the waitress gives me moons over my hammy
When she puts your order up, she'll tell the cook "moon me!" if she's cool.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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The ETs are not ON the moon, but they may be IN the moon. I'm sure some of you have heard of the fact that the moon is hollow? When NASA crashed a probe into it a while back they recorded a long and pronounced vibration like when you hit a bell or a gong. Also, the shapes of the craters on the moon suggest that there is a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon. That is because many of the craters are very wide but not very deep. They have also recorded clouds of mist hovering over the surface of the moon.
Also, whoever asserted that the moon is an old chunk of earth, then why have they found moon rocks that are a billion years older than any rocks on earth?
I believe it may be possible that the moon is an artificial satellite sent here by an alien race to facilite the evolution of life on earth for a reason unknown to us.
Check out the books, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson and Who Built the Moon? by Christopher Knight.
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I don't think its a fact the moon is hollow. But it makes sense that what is below the surface would be harder/more dense due to gravity.
It is plausible that rocks on the moon would be older than those found on earth since earth has a much more active geological cycle which recycles all of its material in some form or another every billion years or so
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hello_im_alex said: The ETs are not ON the moon, but they may be IN the moon. I'm sure some of you have heard of the fact that the moon is hollow? When NASA crashed a probe into it a while back they recorded a long and pronounced vibration like when you hit a bell or a gong. Also, the shapes of the craters on the moon suggest that there is a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon. That is because many of the craters are very wide but not very deep. They have also recorded clouds of mist hovering over the surface of the moon.
Also, whoever asserted that the moon is an old chunk of earth, then why have they found moon rocks that are a billion years older than any rocks on earth?
I believe it may be possible that the moon is an artificial satellite sent here by an alien race to facilite the evolution of life on earth for a reason unknown to us.
Check out the books, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson and Who Built the Moon? by Christopher Knight.
BAHAHAHAHA this is why I generally hate people on the whole because of 'facts' like the moon being hollow......
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: twighead]
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ok not a fact but legitimate speculation!
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: F0SS1L]
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F0SS1L said: Well you know we can see and study the moon pretty clearly from Earth right? Even amateurs can do this quite well. What exactly are aliens eating, drinking, breathing, and using for shelter? Unless we're talking about life on the microscopic level I think it's pretty obvious there's no aliens on the moon.
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hello_im_alex said: ok not a fact but legitimate speculation!
How is that legitimate in the least? wtf is the point of creating deathstar type moon ship to watch a bunch of stupid apes? Next your gonna be saying our sun is a intergalatic stargate.
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hello_im_alex said: The ETs are not ON the moon, but they may be IN the moon. I'm sure some of you have heard of the fact that the moon is hollow? When NASA crashed a probe into it a while back they recorded a long and pronounced vibration like when you hit a bell or a gong. Also, the shapes of the craters on the moon suggest that there is a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon. That is because many of the craters are very wide but not very deep. They have also recorded clouds of mist hovering over the surface of the moon.
Also, whoever asserted that the moon is an old chunk of earth, then why have they found moon rocks that are a billion years older than any rocks on earth?
I believe it may be possible that the moon is an artificial satellite sent here by an alien race to facilite the evolution of life on earth for a reason unknown to us.
Check out the books, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson and Who Built the Moon? by Christopher Knight.
BAHAHAHAHA this is why I generally hate people on the whole because of 'facts' like the moon being hollow......
hey man i didn't make this shit up! admittedly i was basically asking to be flamed with my post but the fact remains that all the info comes from books which reference all sorts of scientist and other credible people. read the material before you judge.
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I know you didnt make that up, some fuckin bozo made it up before you were even born.
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Pffff, I ate it up? I am the one exploring the alternative theories here. Of course none of this is certain. But that doesn't mean that bashing people for offering a creative perspective is gonna accomplish anything. As crazy as it sounds, there are academic type people who explore these ideas. But don't take my word for it! Actually check up the books I mentioned and get back to me!
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They would be the luaghing stock of acadamia if they actually studied this shit and sent there theories out for peer review. No im not gonna run down to the library take out the books you mentioned and spend a couple days reading through them, present some evidence yourself.
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It doesnt mean shit if someone from acedemia said it. You know when a rap album goes platnum? Yeah, that doesnt mean he makes good music, it means a million people are fucking stupid.
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Not only that, saying outlandish things like that is just too silly at this point. We havent even explored the simpler possibilities. That's like if I said gravity wasnt real, and it's actually invisible cats with wings that make things float back towards the earth. It's just outlandish bullshit that is TOO outlandish to be natural or probable in any way.
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It's not our moon that's hollow, it's Phobos.
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hello_im_alex said: The ETs are not ON the moon, but they may be IN the moon. I'm sure some of you have heard of the fact that the moon is hollow? When NASA crashed a probe into it a while back they recorded a long and pronounced vibration like when you hit a bell or a gong. Also, the shapes of the craters on the moon suggest that there is a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon. That is because many of the craters are very wide but not very deep. They have also recorded clouds of mist hovering over the surface of the moon.
Also, whoever asserted that the moon is an old chunk of earth, then why have they found moon rocks that are a billion years older than any rocks on earth?
I believe it may be possible that the moon is an artificial satellite sent here by an alien race to facilite the evolution of life on earth for a reason unknown to us.
Check out the books, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon by Don Wilson and Who Built the Moon? by Christopher Knight.
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How is it outlandish to assume that if the moon rings like a bell when you strike it, and craters on the surface are so shallow (in relation to their width) that there might be some kind of hard shell just below the surface, than it's POSSIBLE that it may be hollow? If that is unreasonable that I suppose I am crazy.
My idea that ETs lived inside the hollow moon was an exaggerated speculation in the spirit of contributing to the thread.
And is it not peculiar that the size of our moon is perfectly proportionate to cover the sun during an eclipse? Or that life could not has been produced without the breathing of the tides thanks to the moon? Or, as I said before, that there are rocks on the moon that are a billion years older than any of those found on earth? And if the moon originates elsewhere, then why is it's orbit a nice round circle around the earth? If the earth's gravitational field "caught" the moon then wouldn't the orbit be elliptical?
There are many mysteries about the moon and I believe your attitude (Azure and Bodhi) is counter productive to uncovering them. I don't necessarily believe any of the theories I mention but I don't disregard them either just because that's what the status quo would do. A quick analysis of history would prove that to be very unwise!
No offence though! I enjoy this type of debate as long as is doesn't degenerate into pointless name-calling..
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So tell me, when did you go and strike the moon like a church bell?
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Oh I'm all for mysteries. It's when thos mysteries turn into silly theories that I ignore them.
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Btw, when I first heard of these ideas I also thought they were crazy. But then a certain string of synchronicities led me to give them a bit more consideration. It's not a topic I would bring up anywhere but I would hope my fellow shroomerites would be a bit more receptive!
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Yeah, apparently if you use drugs, it's easy to ignore logic.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: adrug]
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1) The moon has ZERO atmosphere. 2) The moon has virtually no water (save for some rather sparse frozen crystals that reside in the dust on the surface). 3) Humans have physically been to the moon. 4) You can clearly see the entire bright side of the moon with even a low powered telescope. 5) The far side of the moon was fully imaged way back in the 1960s, and was seen by the astronauts on the Apollo 8 mission. 6) The moon is probably the MOST observed object in space due to its close proximity to Earth. 7) The presence of organic material on the moon does not equate life on the moon. Especially when the current theory of moon origin is that the moon is a chunk of the Earth that was blown away in our distant past. 8) And finally, I asked our reptilian overlords and they told me with certainty that there are no aliens on the moon. 
I become more and more disappointed by the critical thinking skills of the human race every day.
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Here's the thing: Life is so damn mysterious and strange as it, absent any speculative theories about a hollow moon or greys flying around in our atmosphere.
If anything, such theories are just a reflection of the self-importance of the theorist. "Oh yes, humanity, particularly my generation, and specifically me for being aware of this, are just so damn special that intergalactic investigators are just buzzing around us all the time, darting back and forth in their craft to observer us/help us/plan our demise because we are just so damn unique and special."
The mysteries are much bigger and far stranger than "UFO's" or the light Buzz Aldrin saw reflecting off one of the lunar module panels.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: F0SS1L]
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so the "dark side of the moon" is never viable?
(this wasnt an opening for a bunch of lame pink floyd jokes.)
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But then a certain string of synchronicities led me to give them a bit more consideration.
You mean your perception became shaped in such a way that you began to take particular notice of information that was similar to other pieces of data you had already collected. This is nothing but a phenomenon of your own habits of mind. It's no indicator of any subjective truth whatsoever. You place too much faith in your own perception.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Dunno]
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(this wasnt an opening for a bunch of lame pink floyd jokes.)
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Viveka]
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But then a certain string of synchronicities led me to give them a bit more consideration.
You mean your perception became shaped in such a way that you began to take particular notice of information that was similar to other pieces of data you had already collected. This is nothing but a phenomenon of your own habits of mind. It's no indicator of any subjective truth whatsoever. You place too much faith in your own perception.
and what might i have faith in besides my own perception?
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But then a certain string of synchronicities led me to give them a bit more consideration.
You mean your perception became shaped in such a way that you began to take particular notice of information that was similar to other pieces of data you had already collected. This is nothing but a phenomenon of your own habits of mind. It's no indicator of any subjective truth whatsoever. You place too much faith in your own perception.
and what might i have faith in besides my own perception?
The infallible collective perception of the shroomery
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: twighead]
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i think thats the first time ive seen that buzz lightyear video, and i must say his description sounds vary vary similar to what i seen during one of those solar flare's that lite the sky green, everyone was stairing at the solar flare, meanwhile i was looking at the stars that were moving in patterns
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But then a certain string of synchronicities led me to give them a bit more consideration.
You mean your perception became shaped in such a way that you began to take particular notice of information that was similar to other pieces of data you had already collected. This is nothing but a phenomenon of your own habits of mind. It's no indicator of any subjective truth whatsoever. You place too much faith in your own perception.
and what might i have faith in besides my own perception?
Just have a healthy awareness of it's limitations. It's a common mistake, people often think eye-witness accounts are a great source of evidence, but it's one of the worst sources because what we perceive is so unreliable and because so much can be lost or misinterpreted in the communication of those perceptions.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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well it looks like i am pretty much on my own here. too bad instead of actual arguments all i am seeing is a bunch of facepalms, etc. anyways i am off to have some drinks and see some local bands. goodnight people!
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none of you have been to the moon so you can't say if there are aliens or not..
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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i saw that kid walking around my apartments when i first moved in.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
I don't have to go to the Moon to believe there are no Aliens. You can't say "Well, you've never been there, how do you know?". Well, have you ever been to Canada? I have. Let me tell you something - run by polar bears. It's true. Have you been there? No? Well then how do you know that Canada is not run by polar bears?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: Dunno]
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i saw that kid walking around my apartments when i first moved in.
Lol he lives across the street from me too.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: gzuf]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
I don't have to go to the Moon to believe there are no Aliens. You can't say "Well, you've never been there, how do you know?". Well, have you ever been to Canada? I have. Let me tell you something - run by polar bears. It's true. Have you been there? No? Well then how do you know that Canada is not run by polar bears?
This man is a rockstar 
This is what I was trying to get at but... Weed does some funny things to the brain.
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hello_im_alex said: well it looks like i am pretty much on my own here. too bad instead of actual arguments all i am seeing is a bunch of facepalms, etc. anyways i am off to have some drinks and see some local bands. goodnight people!
Ok, I'll address your points from earlier:
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The ETs are not ON the moon, but they may be IN the moon. I'm sure some of you have heard of the fact that the moon is hollow?
You mean the speculation that the moon is hollow?
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When NASA crashed a probe into it a while back they recorded a long and pronounced vibration like when you hit a bell or a gong.
How about a little more on this? Did you look into this concept yourself?
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Also, the shapes of the craters on the moon suggest that there is a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon. That is because many of the craters are very wide but not very deep.
Why does a wide but "not very deep"(compared to what?) crater suggest a very hard surface under the initial surface of the moon? Here's a suggestion: the lesser gravity of the moon causes impacts more shallow than what might be found on Earth. Total layman's speculation, I admit.
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They have also recorded clouds of mist hovering over the surface of the moon.
Who is they? How were these clouds of mist measured? How do these supposed clouds of mist support a hollow Moon theory
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Also, whoever asserted that the moon is an old chunk of earth, then why have they found moon rocks that are a billion years older than any rocks on earth?
Assuming your claim is true, there are competing theories on how the moon was formed. Some involve matter from elsewhere coming into contact with a proto-Earth or mass that became the Earth/Moon. We don't actually know how the Earth or Moon were formed though, do we? We have theories.
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I believe it may be possible that the moon is an artificial satellite sent here by an alien race to facilite the evolution of life on earth for a reason unknown to us.
It may be possible, although at an extremely low probability. Ans if it's not actually true, are you not concerned that your perspective on things is pretty severely flawed?
Or to put it another way, isn't nature wonderful and mysterious enough for you? The fact the the Earth even exists at all in a state that allows you to flourish? People take all this for granted and therefore have to dream up fantasies to inject their lives with wonder. The end result is that they end up with a ridiculous world view that includes a hollow moon with an alien crew inside to watch over us.
How is this any less silly than ancient stories about the world balanced on the back of a great turtle or an omnipotent deity creating the world in 6 days?
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: gzuf]
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gzuf said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
I don't have to go to the Moon to believe there are no Aliens. You can't say "Well, you've never been there, how do you know?". Well, have you ever been to Canada? I have. Let me tell you something - run by polar bears. It's true. Have you been there? No? Well then how do you know that Canada is not run by polar bears?
Its true polar bears are our main mode of transportation, we would be lost without them.
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Yeah I was gonna say thats a bad example because polar bears are so abundant in canada it's rediculous. I took a cab in Victoria a few weekends ago, and that goddamn polar bear cabbie shorted me on the change. Fuckin dick.
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and here i thought all u Canadians strapped penguins to your feet
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said: I astroprojected once but i got dust in my eye and then snapped out of it, however for one eyeblink before the dust hit, i briefly recall looking down and seeing someone wrote GTFO on the ground
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT! 
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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wake wow just wow your slippin man
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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I like to believe aliens created us by mixing their DNA with apes, using our moon as a base.... Sounds like something humans would try if we had the chance. Seems like the best way to acclimate to a new environment, use something that was already there.
for me, its easier to believe/more probable than some ultimate entity that created the entire universe.
When it comes to all this funky stuff I really like entertaining the ideas because thats what they are...entertainment.
In the end, I like to believe anything is possible in an infinate universe. Just imagine how crazy it sounded if you told someone 400 years ago that we could walk on the moon...probably just as crazy as I sound now when I say I think there are aliens on the moon.
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Re: Are aliens on the moon? [Re: phxBoomer]
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phxBoomer said: I like to believe aliens created us by mixing their DNA with apes, using our moon as a base.... Sounds like something humans would try if we had the chance. Seems like the best way to acclimate to a new environment, use something that was already there.
Haha I agree it's smart, but it's far from what humans would do. We'd put a fucking walmart and mcdonalds there, then end up abandoning it because the water tastes too 'moony'
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