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mushrooms turning white on top *pics*
    #14092173 - 03/09/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

so i had what looked like was going to be a nice flush, then yesterday i went to fan and mist the tub and noticed some of my most promising fruits are turning white on top, like a mold or something and halting their growth. any ideas why this may be happening?




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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: passenger]
    #14092184 - 03/09/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Too much humidity/insufficient FAE.

Edited by Luger0815 (03/09/11 12:01 PM)

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14092237 - 03/09/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i did notice this happening after i put the tub in a closet from being out in the open in a room.

so should i hold back on the misting a bit and up the fae?

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: passenger]
    #14092269 - 03/09/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes it would help.
Pinheads turn dark if the humidity is too high.
At least they will abort if you cant manage them to get more dry.
It is a balancing act, every time until you get your Tub tuned well.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14092347 - 03/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes it would help.
Pinheads turn dark if the humidity is too high.
At least they will abort if you cant manage them to get more dry.
It is a balancing act, every time until you get your Tub tuned well.




The humidity can never be too high....Stale air is the problem or misting to the point where it takes forever to dry...More FAE is the answer...


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14092458 - 03/09/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Although i know very little, it looks good to me :smile: The white on the caps is just mycelium and its always been a good sign through my eyes. Typically lack of fae is shown with thin stems and small caps but it doesnt look like that at all in your tub.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: deadmandave]
    #14093331 - 03/09/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

those dont look too good to me. it looks like the start of a bacterial rot.  too much humidity and not enough fae like what was mentioned above.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
    #14093362 - 03/09/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't understand why people still come up with this "too much humidity" stuff :shrug:


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14093456 - 03/09/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Me either i GrOw StUFF. I'm not sure how there could be "too much humidity" as cubensis thrive in 100% humidity. Possibly what you're lacking is FAE.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7752769

This thread should back me up and will hopefully clear some of the confusion up.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14093641 - 03/09/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't understand why people still come up with this "too much humidity" stuff :shrug:





look up bacterial blotch.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
    #14093669 - 03/09/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i've had caps that look like that.  I'd give it some time to see if they clear up considering they are only on a few of them.


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
    #14095379 - 03/09/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i GrOw StUFF said:
I don't understand why people still come up with this "too much humidity" stuff :shrug:





look up bacterial blotch.




"Yellow to brown lesions form on mushrooms. Typically, spotting occurs at or near the edge of mushroom caps. Blotch occurs when mushrooms remain wet for a period of 4 to 6 hours or longer after water has been applied. The bacterium is spread in air-borne soil particles."

Also I've heard high temps can cause bacteria blotch.  Lowering the humidity is a "treatment" for blotch, NOT a cause.....


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14095726 - 03/09/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I dont see any bacterial infection here.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14095745 - 03/09/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In an sgfc you want to have 95% humidity all the time.
In a mono tub you want to have 95% RH until pinning and 80% RH in the growing period.
It is possible to have "too high RH" in a monotub.
I have to go to work but later i will search the tread.

Correct me if im wrong but this is what is in my mind.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14095802 - 03/09/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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In an sgfc you want to have 95% humidity all the time.
In a mono tub you want to have 95% RH until pinning and 80% RH in the growing period.
It is possible to have "too high RH" in a monotub.
I have to go to work but later i will search the tread.

Correct me if im wrong but this is what is in my mind.




I don't think so....Some people just stuff the holes with too much polyfil to the point where it lacks FAE.....Along with misting too much can also cause the rot with pins/mushrooms.....It's the good old balancing act...high humidity has nothing to do with CAUSING any problems.....


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14095822 - 03/09/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

and I'm not saying that there is blotch in this picture.....just replying to the "too much humidity" responses....


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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14096159 - 03/10/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

Luger0815 said:
Yes it would help.
Pinheads turn dark if the humidity is too high.
At least they will abort if you cant manage them to get more dry.
It is a balancing act, every time until you get your Tub tuned well.




The humidity can never be too high....Stale air is the problem or misting to the point where it takes forever to dry...More FAE is the answer...






Stage IV: Pinhead Development
After the pinheads have grown to pea size (3-5 mm.), their further development is primarily dependent on air temperature and relative humidity.
To insure that they mature into healthy mushrooms, the

1. Air temperature is held constant within the fruiting range.
2. Relative humidity is lowered to 85-92%.<
3. A constant fresh air supply with CO2 below 2000 ppm
4. A 12 hour on/off light cycle

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14096767 - 03/10/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

so what's the general consensus here?  should i not mist anymore and just fan 3-5 times per day?  i dont have a hygrometer, wish i did.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: passenger]
    #14096785 - 03/10/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just fan some more.

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Re: mushrooms turning white on top *pics* [Re: Luger0815]
    #14096803 - 03/10/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mist a little less than u were n fan 2x as much...

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