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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TimmiT]
    #14080056 - 03/07/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Seems so. :shrug:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14081509 - 03/07/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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bye  :hi:

Good luck finding your perfect world. :lol:





Perfect world? All I expected was an even playing field. If I have to enter into a drama event every time on a thread then none of you are worth my time.



Even playing field?  Typical liberal expecting an equality of result when all he is due is an equality of opportunity.  There is no even playing field for you if I'm anywhere near it.  Troll.  And a whiny troll at that.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TimmiT]
    #14081526 - 03/07/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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> He hates Arabs an Muslims because most oppose Zionism and are aware of and reveal/oppose Zionist forces behind western foreign policy. 

I hate to speak for Zappa, but based upon his posts, your claims are incorrect.  He does not hate arabs and muslims.



He may not have directly stated that he hates muslims, but it seems a reasonable inference based on statements like these:

"In the rest of the great wide world there are just as many Muzzies and a lot, hundreds of millions want to put you to the sword.  Good thing they are the most inept jackasses you could ask for in an adversary."

"No, they fucking don't and I'm an atheist.  The only ones who want to chop  my head of for that are Muzzies."

"They spend all their money on destruction, not construction"



Just which of those statements do you find factually incorrect?  You know what else is a factually correct statement?  Gefilte fish tastes like ass.  Does that mean I'm prejudiced against gefilte fish or ass?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14083623 - 03/07/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

None of those statements are factual, and if you want to present them as such please provide evidence. I don't care if you want to express bigoted views but don't parade your prejudices as facts, and if you want to use them in a debate then back them up.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TimmiT]
    #14091115 - 03/09/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There has never been homosexual reeducation camp in muslim societies as far as i know.

The real problem is taht we lose our religion and muslims keep it. The muslims are pretty much atheist in their own countries due to centuries of oppressino, they are not able to follow their laws very well due to the systematic oppression in which they live in.

Lybia is bullshit by the way, that 6 million country should be ruled by muslims, never by any westerners, it has all the rich oil reserve and it is EXACTLY divided for that reason , to make it weak to invasions. palestine was invaded for religious purpose and lybia will be invaded for oil. a clear proof of why they cut up the middle east in parts.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14091341 - 03/09/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

> There has never been homosexual reeducation camp in muslim societies as far as i know.

When the punishment for homosexual relations is death, why would they bother with "reeducation"?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Seuss]
    #14091622 - 03/09/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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> There has never been homosexual reeducation camp in muslim societies as far as i know.

When the punishment for homosexual relations is death, why would they bother with "reeducation"?



Or a camp?  Besides, don't you know there are no homos in Iran


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14091807 - 03/09/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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When the punishment for homosexual relations is death, why would they bother with "reeducation"?




do you know how many time i took a leak on the side of the road even if i am supposed to get a 200$ fine? it's about time you racists realize what racism was about, figuring out the real subtle details of race and nations. A good example is when we talked about black people being stopped for routine traffic check, some people pointed out taht black people may tend to have more tattoos and the like or to listen to loud music. Liberals wouldn't accept this, it's oppression or details they don't see.

there are too many homosexuals in iran to kill them all. the few that are caught are sadly dealt an exemplary punishment. if anything those laws prevent stuff like gay pride from existing in iran since the moral police is rarely truly enforced for woman.

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Or a camp?  Besides, don't you know there are no homos in Iran



See this is another racist attack against an iranian man , by misusing his words or those of his translator you are merely poking or teasing this person, and by being unwilling to listen to so many leftist who told you what exactly ahmadinejad and the Iranian government meant you are merely acting like an intolerant atheist prick.

You are the first one to be homophobic, the first one to criticize gay rights or gay marriage but because of war and fear mongering people like bill oreilly and you are missing out on a very good argument: If homosexuality is legalized in iran there will be no gay marriage and there will be good HIV control like in somalia for example. they will not be decadent like the worst gay pride representative you can picture. Or at least, the worst gay pride i am talking will not be the representative of the gay iranian community unlike in our western society where "fofolle" is a common cliche.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14091972 - 03/09/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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When the punishment for homosexual relations is death, why would they bother with "reeducation"?




do you know how many time i took a leak on the side of the road even if i am supposed to get a 200$ fine? it's about time you racists realize what racism was about, figuring out the real subtle details of race and nations. A good example is when we talked about black people being stopped for routine traffic check, some people pointed out taht black people may tend to have more tattoos and the like or to listen to loud music. Liberals wouldn't accept this, it's oppression or details they don't see.




There's a Muslim race?  I did not know that.
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there are too many homosexuals in iran to kill them all. the few that are caught are sadly dealt an exemplary punishment. if anything those laws prevent stuff like gay pride from existing in iran since the moral police is rarely truly enforced for woman.



What's wrong with gay pride?  Other than that they bore the living shit out of me who gives a fuck?  Muzzies, that's who.
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Or a camp?  Besides, don't you know there are no homos in Iran



See this is another racist attack against an iranian man , by misusing his words or those of his translator you are merely poking or teasing this person, and by being unwilling to listen to so many leftist who told you what exactly ahmadinejad and the Iranian government meant you are merely acting like an intolerant atheist prick.




Right they spun it later.  He still said it.
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You are the first one to be homophobic, the first one to criticize gay rights or gay marriage but because of war and fear mongering people like bill oreilly and you are missing out on a very good argument: If homosexuality is legalized in iran there will be no gay marriage and there will be good HIV control like in somalia for example. they will not be decadent like the worst gay pride representative you can picture. Or at least, the worst gay pride i am talking will not be the representative of the gay iranian community unlike in our western society where "fofolle" is a common cliche.




Right.  Suppressing homosexuals is the Muslim expression of kind caring concern lest the homos debase themselves by riding in a parade in drag.

I never heard of "fofolle".  I have no idea what you are babbling about.  I looked it up and it seems to mean crazy girl.  At any rate there is nothing common about it.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14092113 - 03/09/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Gee what a coinkeydink that two religions from the middle east hate fags.  :whoa: And those two religions hate each other.:whoa: Wow another coinkeydink. :whoa: This is getting spooky.:satansmoking:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14092166 - 03/09/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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There's a Muslim race?  I did not know that.



there's a jewish one t00! oh wait, weren't you suppose to talk about my arguments? does that prove you have no arguments yourself? don't you suck at debating politics?

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What's wrong with gay pride?  Other than that they bore the living shit out of me who gives a fuck?  Muzzies, that's who.



Nothing really bad, but you who believe so strongly in individuality you can understand that muslims would rather have a sexually sober homosexual community as opposed to one that is associated with aids,anal rape,poppers and the color pink. at least at first, then we can send the army to drop loads of dildo off the air just to make sure they stay decadent.
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Right they spun it later.  He still said it.



like i said, it was intolerant bullshit by college kids,at worst it was funny but it is clearly spinned out to be propaganda. it could even be interpreted as racist since it sounds like there is no homosexuals in iran because i killed them all, which is an exageration of the persecution of homosexuals.  no different than making fun of a stranger because he does not master your language or there is a communication problem. of course, ahmadinejad is not laughing his ass off at the way fat american pigs laugh because of cultural imperialism, it's the other way.

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Right.  Suppressing homosexuals is the Muslim expression of kind caring concern lest the homos debase themselves by riding in a parade in drag.

I never heard of "fofolle".  I have no idea what you are babbling about.  I looked it up and it seems to mean crazy girl.  At any rate there is nothing common about it.



They repress homosexuals for their own sake, you seem to forgot homosexuality is not the same kind of sexuality as heterosexuality, societal expectations and many other details are very different. they even repress adultery it is very different than here.

how many homosexuals have had fines,lashes or so in the last year? there are death sentence handed out for this but since 20% of all american inmates are raped in prison iran should be executing homosexuals all the time.

if handing out a death sentence for homosexual rape deter jail rape then i'm all for it and anyone with common sense would as well. Only an hypocrit would be against such a law claiming that it discriminates.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14092291 - 03/09/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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There's a Muslim race?  I did not know that.



there's a jewish one t00! oh wait, weren't you suppose to talk about my arguments? does that prove you have no arguments yourself? don't you suck at debating politics?




In order for there to be racism there must be a racial distinction.  I believe you said this, "it's about time you racists realize what racism was about,".  Since there is, in fact, no racial component how could we be racist?:flowstone:
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What's wrong with gay pride?  Other than that they bore the living shit out of me who gives a fuck?  Muzzies, that's who.



Nothing really bad, but you who believe so strongly in individuality you can understand that muslims would rather have a sexually sober homosexual community as opposed to one that is associated with aids,anal rape,poppers and the color pink. at least at first, then we can send the army to drop loads of dildo off the air just to make sure they stay decadent.




"A sexually sober community?"  How unspeakably vile.  And to achieve that homogeneous state they must persecute and deny "the other" in their midst?  Your idea of "individuality" is a violently enforced homogeneous Kollektif?  Good zappa you are quite the pretzel.
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Right they spun it later.  He still said it.



like i said, it was intolerant bullshit by college kids,at worst it was funny but it is clearly spinned out to be propaganda. it could even be interpreted as racist since it sounds like there is no homosexuals in iran because i killed them all, which is an exageration of the persecution of homosexuals.  no different than making fun of a stranger because he does not master your language or there is a communication problem. of course, ahmadinejad is not laughing his ass off at the way fat american pigs laugh because of cultural imperialism, it's the other way.




They were his words, not the college kids.  I not only didn't misquote him but I provided the video of him saying it.  YOU can read any implications you want into it.  As to fat Americans and all that well too bad.  If they want to be fat they can be fat.  I'm not.  Finally "cultural imperialism"?  Really?  What the fuck is that supposed top mean?  Are you distressed that American culture has spread all over the world because people like it?  You would, of course, impose the proper culture, wouldn't you?  More vileness.
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Right.  Suppressing homosexuals is the Muslim expression of kind caring concern lest the homos debase themselves by riding in a parade in drag.

I never heard of "fofolle".  I have no idea what you are babbling about.  I looked it up and it seems to mean crazy girl.  At any rate there is nothing common about it.



They repress homosexuals for their own sake, you seem to forgot homosexuality is not the same kind of sexuality as heterosexuality, societal expectations and many other details are very different. they even repress adultery it is very different than here.




Perhaps I should follow you around and decide what you should be doing.  When you step out of line I get to whack you over the head with a truncheon.  WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TELLING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE?
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how many homosexuals have had fines,lashes or so in the last year? there are death sentence handed out for this but since 20% of all american inmates are raped in prison iran should be executing homosexuals all the time.



That makes absolutely no sense.  How does prison rape equate to Iranian execution of homosexuals?  You know how they treat women who get raped in Muslim countries?  They get the lash for being "provocative".  Classy friends you got there Hamid.
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if handing out a death sentence for homosexual rape deter jail rape then i'm all for it and anyone with common sense would as well. Only an hypocrit would be against such a law claiming that it discriminates.




It isn't rape the Muzzies cut heads off for, they have no problem with rape.  It's for consensual sex.  Vile.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14092484 - 03/09/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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In order for there to be racism there must be a racial distinction.  I believe you said this, "it's about time you racists realize what racism was about,".  Since there is, in fact, no racial component how could we be racist?




do you even know the definition of race and ethnic groups? you are just as childish as the people who said calling french-canadian frogs was not racist because they are of the same race, while in fact they are of different ethnic group, they should have been banned but they are dumbass lefties, anything goes with anti-american white nations.

You know what you are, a goddamn anti-semites. because you hate a semitic people called the palestinians.
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"A sexually sober community?"  How unspeakably vile.  And to achieve that homogeneous state they must persecute and deny "the other" in their midst?  Your idea of "individuality" is a violently enforced homogeneous Kollektif?  Good zappa you are quite the pretzel.



unspeakably vile? you have black people in america fucking without condoms and you have somalia, if anything i should be racist against you look at how black people act like, rap like when they sit next to you at school. what i actually meant is , a more sexually sober community than ours, for the simple reason that their sexuality carries more risk, no matter how small they may be. this also includes homophobia which is inevitable, people like zappa talk all day long about how homophobia suck and how homosexuals should kiss in public but at the end of the day they get their ass kicked by your own intolerant anglo-saxon younger self who didn't learn tolerance yet cause he's a mad kid, just like all kids believe and do stupid things maybe we should prevent kids from doing stupid things for once. How will you destroy irremediably homophobic people? before homosexuality was legal it's very easy to picture that it was old people who remained homophobic and attached to a vision of the church when it comes to morality and the youth was tolerant of difference.

What homogenous state are you talking about zappa? the people there are simply not voting in favor of legalisation and one of the reason for that is gay pride uclture being perceived as western. the only way they will swallow tolerance of homosexuality if they do is to have it as a different model than you.

what is your idea of individuality? i find individuality to be rather cowardly and a rather childish,retarded ideology. there are homosexuals,woman and ethnic minorities in all society, there always was and there always will be. but what about iranians? what about americans? in 500 years any empire could collapse and yet all i see are homosexuals,woman and ethnic minorities acting as if their culture will be exterminated next morning. You seem to forget that the individuality you talk about is destructive to civilisation and what not. the only reason you live nowdays with all the wealth and technology we have is because christians started controlling their dicks and other such painful collectivist mindset. only in nowdays society could it ever be possible to have strictly individualistic person who contribute to society more than they take. and even then.

The real problem is that such an individualistic mindset, truly turns into actions around the world and one such action is monsanto's unethical actions which all of humanity pays.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14093030 - 03/09/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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In order for there to be racism there must be a racial distinction.  I believe you said this, "it's about time you racists realize what racism was about,".  Since there is, in fact, no racial component how could we be racist?




do you even know the definition of race and ethnic groups? you are just as childish as the people who said calling french-canadian frogs was not racist because they are of the same race, while in fact they are of different ethnic group, they should have been banned but they are dumbass lefties, anything goes with anti-american white nations.

You know what you are, a goddamn anti-semites. because you hate a semitic people called the palestinians.
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"A sexually sober community?"  How unspeakably vile.  And to achieve that homogeneous state they must persecute and deny "the other" in their midst?  Your idea of "individuality" is a violently enforced homogeneous Kollektif?  Good zappa you are quite the pretzel.



unspeakably vile? you have black people in america fucking without condoms and you have somalia, if anything i should be racist against you look at how black people act like, rap like when they sit next to you at school. what i actually meant is , a more sexually sober community than ours, for the simple reason that their sexuality carries more risk, no matter how small they may be. this also includes homophobia which is inevitable, people like zappa talk all day long about how homophobia suck and how homosexuals should kiss in public but at the end of the day they get their ass kicked by your own intolerant anglo-saxon younger self who didn't learn tolerance yet cause he's a mad kid, just like all kids believe and do stupid things maybe we should prevent kids from doing stupid things for once. How will you destroy irremediably homophobic people? before homosexuality was legal it's very easy to picture that it was old people who remained homophobic and attached to a vision of the church when it comes to morality and the youth was tolerant of difference.

What homogenous state are you talking about zappa? the people there are simply not voting in favor of legalisation and one of the reason for that is gay pride uclture being perceived as western. the only way they will swallow tolerance of homosexuality if they do is to have it as a different model than you.

what is your idea of individuality? i find individuality to be rather cowardly and a rather childish,retarded ideology. there are homosexuals,woman and ethnic minorities in all society, there always was and there always will be. but what about iranians? what about americans? in 500 years any empire could collapse and yet all i see are homosexuals,woman and ethnic minorities acting as if their culture will be exterminated next morning. You seem to forget that the individuality you talk about is destructive to civilisation and what not. the only reason you live nowdays with all the wealth and technology we have is because christians started controlling their dicks and other such painful collectivist mindset. only in nowdays society could it ever be possible to have strictly individualistic person who contribute to society more than they take. and even then.

The real problem is that such an individualistic mindset, truly turns into actions around the world and one such action is monsanto's unethical actions which all of humanity pays.




This guy is a gift that just keeps on giving.  You spout this intolerant drivel on a drug website?  Why do you fear the cock so much?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14093294 - 03/09/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

specify what is intolerant in everything that i said, you and i have a very different viewpoint of the drug culture right here. your viewpoint of it is some redneck backwater idea of a drug culture while mine is religious and goes through 5000 years of history . that is why i criticize modern gay culture for being a freakish modern bullshit invention just like give aids culture.

I think it all comes down to the type of harm reduction, your idea of harm reduction is an egoist one based on self-interest while mine had ideas of tradition,taboos,rule behind it. we could say the same for both gay and drug culture.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14093365 - 03/09/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Shouldn't you be out hunting homos in Montreal.  To save your country from their insidious infiltration.  Or do you care more about Iran than Canada?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14093616 - 03/09/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

homos are not ennemies, they must comply to national culture like jews. See a nationalist can understand different relationships than just hate or ally which is just a form of ganging up on someone. Ideologues like you are revealed for how hateful they are when they can't understand that my criticism of certain sociocultural values put forward by gay culture that are negative, just like i would say so of those vehiculated by rap. this is far from hate, but rather asking people to comply to national culture, just i am expected to national culture in order to get my national goal across : whooping asses.

Shit i'm not even asking anything from homosexuals than to question themselves about what role has naked capitalism for them and if this hedonist culture is really what they want as representative of themselves. they don't have to rebel and be decadent idiot and what i am refering to is the main ideology. It could be a better culture.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14093625 - 03/09/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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homos are not ennemies, they must comply to national culture like jews. See a nationalist can understand different relationships than just hate or ally which is just a form of ganging up on someone. Ideologues like you are revealed for how hateful they are when they can't understand that my criticism of certain sociocultural values put forward by gay culture are negative, just like i would say so of those vehiculated by rap. is far from hate, but rather asking people to comply to national culture, just i am complying to national culture.

Shit i'm not even asking anything from homosexuals than to question themselves about naked capitalism and if this hedonist culture is really what they want as representative of themselves. they don't have to rebel and be decadent idiot and what i am refering to is the main ideology. It could be a better culture.



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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14093649 - 03/09/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do so, you tolerate homosexuality as long as it doesn't infringe your right or any kind of craplike that. Homosexuals will only truly be part of your nation the day they make sacrifice for the nation.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: communeart]
    #14093671 - 03/09/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

They already serve but then again, that is a moronic assertion.  Most people do not serve in the military.  As far as I know that is true of all nations except Switzerland and, wait for it, Israel. 

Since a very tiny percentage of the female population serves in the military do you consider them second class citizens, too?


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