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Probation drug testing?
    #14091404 - 03/09/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Okay I'm on parole for a non-drug related offence. It is surpervised. I was already tested once and failed for weed, but it was the first visit so no prison. My question is, do they only test you when you go to your appointments with them? My next appointment with the probation officer is next month. I can smoke and it will be out of my system. Or do they come to your house and test you there, or take you somewhere to be tested?


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14091411 - 03/09/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How long's your probation? Why don't you just embrace the bottle for a while and not worry about it?

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: koraks]
    #14091424 - 03/09/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck that poison.

It's 1 year.

It's not only for my benefit, people should know the conditions of the system. Do drug tests only happen during scheduled visits? Surely someone has experience with this


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14091430 - 03/09/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I'm sure many people here have experience with that. I'm not in the US though, so I wouldn't know.

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: koraks]
    #14091440 - 03/09/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

They can and Will give you un-announced, randomized drug tests, especially since you failed your first one for marijuana.

You're better off stocking up on some K2 and JWH if you enjoy the cannabis high.

It's not worth the risk of going to jail, IMO.  A Year goes by pretty quickly.

EDIT:  Also, they CAN and WILL show up to test you at your house

Edited by Dave Bowman (03/09/11 09:15 AM)

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14091463 - 03/09/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Damn, really? That is insane. Have you had experience with this?


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14091480 - 03/09/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Damn, really? That is insane. Have you had experience with this?




Long Story, Short.  Yes.  And Yes, it is REALLY fucking insane.

They still CAN test you unannounced even if you didn't fail that first test, but since it's now officially in their system that you are a drug user, you won't get past their scrutiny. 

You're Parole Officer can pop in anytime he wants and get you to piss in front of him, now for the next year.  You're better off going with alternatives than risking going to jail. 

Trust me, I smoke all day, daily, and it was no easy task.  But anything is easier done NOT in a fucking jail cell.

IMO.

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14091483 - 03/09/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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mikeisapro said:
Damn, really? That is insane. Have you had experience with this?




Long Story, Short.  Yes.  And Yes, it is REALLY fucking insane.

They still CAN test you unannounced even if you didn't fail that first test, but since it's now officially in their system that you are a drug user, you won't get past their scrutiny. 

You're Parole Officer can pop in anytime he wants and get you to piss in front of him, now for the next year.  You're better off going with alternatives than risking going to jail. 

Trust me, I smoke all day, daily, and it was no easy task.  But anything is easier done NOT in a fucking jail cell.

IMO.




I think your advice is great.

But what if you're conveniently not home all the time?


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14091495 - 03/09/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I think your advice is great.

But what if you're conveniently not home all the time?




Then they force-schedule an appointment for that very same day later on, or the very next, to be drug tested. 

You play by THEIR RULES when on Parole, Unfortunately.  Or at least I certainly did, fuck jail time.

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14091496 - 03/09/11 09:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah...

I don't mind jail really, in fact I'd rather do my 60 days and be "free" than pay all this money and go through this probation bullshit for a year. But I think if you go to prison you'll have a prison record, that's the thing keeping me in fear. Also I might have to go on parole AGAIN after serving the time, so it would be a waste.

Well fuck... thanks for the info :sad:


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14091519 - 03/09/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

PO's own your ass...I had to deal with em for over 4 years, luckily I was a productive white boy who did what I needed to do...
They will certainly pop in on you, at their leisure...Its their job, and Im sure they love to do it...

IF/When they come knocking say you just got done taking a dump/piss or whatever and try to buy some time, bout the best you can do...hopefully they'll go away and you'll live to smoke another day...

Keep fake piss in your bathroom maybe?

Or, sadly, stop smoking for 1 year

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: shLong]
    #14091531 - 03/09/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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PO's own your ass...I had to deal with em for over 4 years, luckily I was a productive white boy who did what I needed to do...
They will certainly pop in on you, at their leisure...Its their job, and Im sure they love to do it...

IF/When they come knocking say you just got done taking a dump/piss or whatever and try to buy some time, bout the best you can do...hopefully they'll go away and you'll live to smoke another day...

Keep fake piss in your bathroom maybe?

Or, sadly, stop smoking for 1 year



I always smoked during probation and just told them I couldn't piss when they would randomly ask me to (never got forewarning) - then I'd drink like 3 gallons and catch the mid stream of my piss - never failed one :shrug:

But that's stupid and I 'should' have gone to jail :lol:


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14091533 - 03/09/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Yeah...

I don't mind jail really, in fact I'd rather do my 60 days and be "free" than pay all this money and go through this probation bullshit for a year. But I think if you go to prison you'll have a prison record, that's the thing keeping me in fear. Also I might have to go on parole AGAIN after serving the time, so it would be a waste.

Well fuck... thanks for the info :sad:





I mean no matter how you dissect the situation, the whole thing blows man.  No joke.  Its just about doing the BS they want you to do for a year or so and then you truely ARE free.

And you guessed correct, even IF you went to jail you'll still probably have to do Parole all over again when you get out.

It sucks, but your best bet is to play by their rules.  You are also correct that you do NOT want a prison record tied in with your name.

Seriously though, I'd stock up on some JWH and K2... the high isn't that bad and still easy to order online or even find in head shops, no drug test for it either.

Trust me, a Year will go by faster than you think if you keep busy, take up some hobbies, etc.  It WILL be worth it once you finished all the bullshit and can blaze a legit true blunt of some Kush and KNOW you don't even have the slightest possibility of being tested.

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14091735 - 03/09/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:

I think your advice is great.

But what if you're conveniently not home all the time?




Then they force-schedule an appointment for that very same day later on, or the very next, to be drug tested. 

You play by THEIR RULES when on Parole, Unfortunately.  Or at least I certainly did, fuck jail time.




What if my cell phone conveniently runs out of batteries?

At least it buys you a couple days to dilute. :smile:

I just don't see how they can control where I am if I don't give them that piece of info. :evil:


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14091978 - 03/09/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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mikeisapro said:
Yeah...

I don't mind jail really, in fact I'd rather do my 60 days and be "free" than pay all this money and go through this probation bullshit for a year. But I think if you go to prison you'll have a prison record, that's the thing keeping me in fear. Also I might have to go on parole AGAIN after serving the time, so it would be a waste.

Well fuck... thanks for the info :sad:





I mean no matter how you dissect the situation, the whole thing blows man.  No joke.  Its just about doing the BS they want you to do for a year or so and then you truely ARE free.

And you guessed correct, even IF you went to jail you'll still probably have to do Parole all over again when you get out.

It sucks, but your best bet is to play by their rules.  You are also correct that you do NOT want a prison record tied in with your name.

Seriously though, I'd stock up on some JWH and K2... the high isn't that bad and still easy to order online or even find in head shops, no drug test for it either.

Trust me, a Year will go by faster than you think if you keep busy, take up some hobbies, etc.  It WILL be worth it once you finished all the bullshit and can blaze a legit true blunt of some Kush and KNOW you don't even have the slightest possibility of being tested.



Yeah I do like the high of jwh, it's not as good as the real stuff, feels incomplete to me, like it's one aspect of the high, magnified, instead of a blend of feelings. It's super clean feeling too. I used to buy blends at a tobacco shop around here but now they don't sell any of them (not even the shitty ones that I doubt even had jwh) so the only way I guess would be to order online, but Idk how to go about getting legit, pure jwh online. I will order other shit like HBWR seeds but I don't trust getting jwh online. I'll just wait it out, maybe do some hard drugs (leave your system in 1-3 days).

It's so fucked up that the most common, and most benign illegal drug it the only one that stays in your system so long. What a scam. It only encourages people to use harder drugs like alcohol, nicotine, heroin, crack, etc. because of how quickly they leave the body. :mad2:


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14092021 - 03/09/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I just don't see how they can control where I am if I don't give them that piece of info. :evil:




Then you've obviously never been in that situation. 
It goes a little something like this:
"Comply with the Rules or go to Prison"

EDIT: Changed to Prison, thanks

Edited by Dave Bowman (03/09/11 12:15 PM)

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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14092032 - 03/09/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Synthettek said:
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ifoundwaldo said:

I just don't see how they can control where I am if I don't give them that piece of info. :evil:




Then you've obviously never been in that situation. 
It goes a little something like this:
"Comply with the Rules or go to Jail"




But seriously... no one can expect you to be on call 24/7. That's my only point.


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14092034 - 03/09/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It's so fucked up that the most common, and most benign illegal drug it the only one that stays in your system so long. What a scam. It only encourages people to use harder drugs like alcohol, nicotine, heroin, crack, etc. because of how quickly they leave the body. :mad2:




I agree, completely unfortunate that this beautiful plant is even illegal in the first place.  A fucking joke.
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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14092035 - 03/09/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

They send you to prison, actually. Jail is nothing


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Re: Probation drug testing? [Re: mikeisapro]
    #14092239 - 03/09/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Okay I'm on parole for a non-drug related offence. It is surpervised. I was already tested once and failed for weed, but it was the first visit so no prison. My question is, do they only test you when you go to your appointments with them? My next appointment with the probation officer is next month. I can smoke and it will be out of my system. Or do they come to your house and test you there, or take you somewhere to be tested?




How much time did you do in prison?
How much longer are you on parole?
Why do you have a probation officer?
I'd do the sixty days in jail if probationary noncompliance meant prison.


I don't think you really understand the conditions of your probation.
You should ask your PO, or you could read your sentencing papers.

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