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Anyone experienced with fasting?
#14091363 - 03/09/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've heard great things about fasting, and am contemplating giving it a go. I'm going to do a lot of reading before starting (or not), but would like to hear some opinions from people who have gone through the experience.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: NIMH]
#14092365 - 03/09/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I did a 5-day water fast. It's an interesting experience that I would recommend trying once.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: NIMH]
#14092550 - 03/09/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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juice fasting is where it's at! fresh vegetable/herb and some fruit juices. i love juice fasting, it gives me the most energy, and the best feeling i can achieve naturally. water fasts suck in comparison. you can only go so long on them without getting worn out.
do you have a juicer? or are you willing to get a juicer? im willing to go into some more details for you, but i only stand by the juices. if they are not an option for you at this point, then i wont be able to help much.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: awakendone]
#14092838 - 03/09/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I do have a juicer. Its old, and I have to run the mulch through multiple times but it gets the job done. The machine leaves tons of little chunks, which I love, but will probably filter out with a cloth while fasting. (unless instructed otherwise)
I also have absolutely wretched chronic acid reflux that I take a daily pill for. I'm a little worried about it when fasting. I certainly won't be taking any medication, but it gets so bad at times I can't sleep. Do you think I will be able ingest baking soda/powder without it upsetting my stomach? That is to say if I even get any symptoms.
As of now I'm eating rice, beans, fruit and vegetables. I'm going to reduce my rice and bean intake over the next two days. Do a day or two of fruits and vegetables and then move to juice. I had planned to go to water after a day or two of juice, which I will still do as I haven't experienced it, but if I do feel as drained as I'm expecting I will probably soon be back on the juices.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: seylm]
#14092847 - 03/09/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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seylm said: I did a 5-day water fast. It's an interesting experience that I would recommend trying once.
Would you please explain what you mean by interesting? I would really love to read about your experience if your willing to share.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: NIMH]
#14092978 - 03/09/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mental clarity, there were less trivial thoughts going through my head. Made me more aware of how food affects the mind/body. The knowledge that I was living on water and my body's stored energy made me feel more human (in an animal way if that makes any sense). It was neat to see how my body gets along without food. Also I got jaundice on the fifth day which probably means I have Gilbert's syndrome (it went away once I started eating again).
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: seylm]
#14094883 - 03/09/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fasting for me was life-changing. The first few days were very uncomftorable but that's cause your body is ridding itself of toxins. Did about a 2 week juice fast(master cleanse).
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Shit thats awesome.. I plan on doing a fast very soon. I Think I'm going to start a 1-3 day fast after a mushroom trip in a few days. I'm pretty excited for it all
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14112370 - 03/13/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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good vibes
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: seylm]
#14118725 - 03/14/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Day one I ate two bananas. Day two I had a small glass of fruit only smoothie. Day three was only water, and today is day four. Its just awesome that my roommate suddenly decided to become a bread baking fanatic at the beginning of this. The smells are literally intoxicating.
The weather is crap and I injured my foot on a run a few days ago. So my days are extremely boring. I got excited when the sun went down last night so I could get on to the next day. My foot is feeling better now though. I was afraid I put a hairline fracture in it, but I've kept off it for four days and it feels okay when I put weight on it, so I might try a light jog today.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: NIMH]
#14159877 - 03/21/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So how did it go? Or is it still going?
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: NIMH]
#14163541 - 03/22/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I tried fasting once while taking Nexium for acid reflux did not go so well. If you wanna treat your acid reflux and fast, make a tea with marshmellow root (or instread use slippery elm bark), Licorace root, small amount of fennel seed, and a little chamomile. Its also a little trick i still use to this day. Havnt been on Nexium or any acid reflux medication for over a year
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: Almond Flour]
#14170298 - 03/23/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you go into super powered mode when you fast.
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Re: Anyone experienced with fasting? [Re: Hakim0777]
#14172111 - 03/23/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oooo...
I have fasted a few times, 14 days was my longest. I've done a huge amount of research for fasting, and there is so many contradictions between different medical views, that it can be more then confusing.
So most Apothecaric medicine will tell you that there isnt much benefit from Fasting. And typically it is rather unhealthy to do for extended periods.
Most alternative medicines will say there is benefits, and some will go on to say that fasting is paramount for a healthy system (especially in this day and age of food/toxicity)
So, i'll give you some "facts" as I understand them.
The body is a big Digester. It has various processes it goes through, with each organ having it's various purposes.
But to break it down we'll say it has - Absorption, and Evacuation. These two functions work simultaneously and harmoniously in a healthy clean body.
As the body adsorbs foods, it processes them, and distributes them throughout the body, where evacuation takes place, and unwanted bits are filtered, and processed out through our urine, poo, and sweat. (our guts and skin)
Though in our modern, fast food, processed lifestyles, many many more toxins are entering the body on a regular basis that the Evacuation cannot keep up. There are degrees of this, depending upon body type, metabolism, etc.
So, what happens to these toxins that the body cant keep up with? It stores them. In fat cells, and throughout organs in the body(from the liver of course, all the way and even to the brain)It stores them for a better time to be able to finish evacuating them.
After a body becomes toxified (more acidic compared to alkaline is one way to tell) the Evacuation process is now split up between evacuating stored toxins, and continuously evacuating new ones coming in. At this point even regular digestion(absorption) of healthy food takes away from the body's resources to process and evacuate in general.
It's a terrible cycle that just perpetuates itself..
Where-as Fasting can completely reboot this system.
When the body isnt using resources (of energy) to Absorb, it can now focus entirely upon Evacuation.
Amazingly enough, the body can actually go without food for a great deal of time. Up to 2 months for most regular people, and longer for those who practice. (apparently indefinitely for some? Breatharians, Yogis/mystics, etc)
A great book, if a little outdated is "The Master Cleanser" - Great Fast/Cleanse as well. I intend to do another one this summer, longer then 14 days, long as I can basically..
For the first 3 days, fasting typically sucks for most people. Cravings, hunger, nausea, fatigue, and some other symptoms are all common in this period.
After this the body shuts down it's digestive systems, and begins to heavy cleaning.
Now it starts with the common areas and moves on- the stomach, intestines, major cleansing organs(liver, kidneys, etc), alternate cleansing organs(lungs, heart, etc), the skin/muslces, the nervous system/bones, then onto the Brain. For whatever reason the brain is usually detoxed last..
To even get to the brain can take upto 30 days of fasting.
During the process of cleansing, there are detox symptoms. From toxic fecal matter being scraped from the intestinal walls (without proper flushing, absorption/reabsorption of these toxins can happen), to organ and fat cells cleansing etc- creating; fever-like symptoms, rashes, itches, headaches, foggy thinking, fatigue, Body Odor, tongue thrush (white coating on tongue), pit thrush (yeast like substance on pit hair/crotch hair), etc.. These are the toxins being expelled from their spots, and refiltering, and processing through Evacuation.
Typically Fatigue isnt much of an issue after days 3-5.. In fact renewed energy is normal between days 5-15..(when the deepest cleansing starts, and smyptoms re-appear)..
Well, this is the first time I've written about Fasting.. So bare with the Chaos.. I think that covers a good amount..
Ask anything else if you like.
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day three is the worse for sure. after that...calm.
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Quote:
FunkMasterShroom said: So, i'll give you some "facts" as I understand them.
The body is a big Digester. It has various processes it goes through, with each organ having it's various purposes.
But to break it down we'll say it has - Absorption, and Evacuation. These two functions work simultaneously and harmoniously in a healthy clean body.
As the body adsorbs foods, it processes them, and distributes them throughout the body, where evacuation takes place, and unwanted bits are filtered, and processed out through our urine, poo, and sweat. (our guts and skin)
Though in our modern, fast food, processed lifestyles, many many more toxins are entering the body on a regular basis that the Evacuation cannot keep up. There are degrees of this, depending upon body type, metabolism, etc.
So, what happens to these toxins that the body cant keep up with? It stores them. In fat cells, and throughout organs in the body(from the liver of course, all the way and even to the brain)It stores them for a better time to be able to finish evacuating them.
After a body becomes toxified (more acidic compared to alkaline is one way to tell) the Evacuation process is now split up between evacuating stored toxins, and continuously evacuating new ones coming in. At this point even regular digestion(absorption) of healthy food takes away from the body's resources to process and evacuate in general.
It's a terrible cycle that just perpetuates itself..
Where-as Fasting can completely reboot this system.
When the body isnt using resources (of energy) to Absorb, it can now focus entirely upon Evacuation.
Amazingly enough, the body can actually go without food for a great deal of time. Up to 2 months for most regular people, and longer for those who practice. (apparently indefinitely for some? Breatharians, Yogis/mystics, etc)
A great book, if a little outdated is "The Master Cleanser" - Great Fast/Cleanse as well. I intend to do another one this summer, longer then 14 days, long as I can basically..
For the first 3 days, fasting typically sucks for most people. Cravings, hunger, nausea, fatigue, and some other symptoms are all common in this period.
After this the body shuts down it's digestive systems, and begins to heavy cleaning.
Now it starts with the common areas and moves on- the stomach, intestines, major cleansing organs(liver, kidneys, etc), alternate cleansing organs(lungs, heart, etc), the skin/muslces, the nervous system/bones, then onto the Brain. For whatever reason the brain is usually detoxed last..
To even get to the brain can take upto 30 days of fasting.
During the process of cleansing, there are detox symptoms. From toxic fecal matter being scraped from the intestinal walls (without proper flushing, absorption/reabsorption of these toxins can happen), to organ and fat cells cleansing etc- creating; fever-like symptoms, rashes, itches, headaches, foggy thinking, fatigue, Body Odor, tongue thrush (white coating on tongue), pit thrush (yeast like substance on pit hair/crotch hair), etc.. These are the toxins being expelled from their spots, and refiltering, and processing through Evacuation.
Typically Fatigue isnt much of an issue after days 3-5.. In fact renewed energy is normal between days 5-15..(when the deepest cleansing starts, and smyptoms re-appear)..
I fully agree with this! This is exactly how I understand fasting, and why I do them. I am convinced that fasting is one of the best things you can do for your body. I've had some amazing experiences on them and the detoxification that is taking place becomes obvious! The energy saved from not having to digest solid foods every single day goes right to work cleaning house!
Heres a (semi-graphic) story that took place when I was on the 8th day of my first real juice fast: That particular night I slammed down one hell of a vegetable juice that had alot of beet root in it. About and hour or so later I took an 8g mushroom dose with some syrian rue. The combination of those four factors (fasting, vegetable juice, rue, and shrooms) resulted in without a doubt the most EPIC shit of my entire life. I spent most of the entire trip on the toilet. Every time I left the bathroom I went right back within a minute, so I decided I might as well just stay in there. I brought a gallon sized jug of water with me and started slamming it down along with a few shots of ACV. The more water I drank, the more of this sludge would expel from my bowels. I know how good it is to get waste out of the body, so I was loving truly this experience.
I was simply amazed by the amounts of waste the body holds, and this definitely wasnt stuff I had eaten anytime recently, because I was fasting. I know that the fast played a key role in this because I have done the 3 other factors many many times before and this never happened. Also I have had very similar experiences during fasts that I did in more recent months, but they were not nearly as extreme as that first one was.
I must say that after this garbage was out of my body I felt amazing! Like a million dollars! Like I was free of something that was holding me back. And by the very next day I noticed a drastic improvement in my complexion. I basically gave myself a colonic at home. Like I said I have done this a few other times more recently, but that first one was all kinds of epicness!
*There is definitely something up with the raw beet juice though. This stuff seems to run right through the body at an alarming rate, and it's my belief that it cleanses the body like no other vegetable I know of! I love it.
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