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NeoSporen
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Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation
#14090490 - 03/09/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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 I germinated some Chlorophyllum rhacodes spores onto PDA about two months ago. Things have gone well with transfers and now I have a few different cultures to work with. I'm just curious if anyone here has had any luck with this species?
Finally got some supplies today and figured I would give it a go. My plan is to inoculate some quart jars of WBS and rye, that way I can have another small experiment. Once that is 100% I'm thinking about spawning to a mixture of moss, straw and small woodchips ( the moss and wood is just a hunch, as it was what the parent mushroom grew in)
If things go well to this point, I'll try to fruit indoors. Not too sure about the temps, so I will need to read up a bit more (i'm guessing around 50°F-65°F) I'm really hoping this will work out well, but I try not to get my hopes up. Any help with substrates or fruiting temps would be awesome, and I will post any progress I make.
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
#14093592 - 03/09/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Off topic questions is the shaggy parasol mushroom genus chlorophylum or lepiota?
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: randy420rhoads]
#14093650 - 03/09/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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First it was Lepiota, then Macrolepiota, and now it's Chlorophyllum. Bfogg, sorry I can't help you with your question, but I kinda doubt that it'll grow well indoors. I think it probably needs a non sterile casing layer and would perform better outside. As far as substrate goes, I'd throw some rich compost in there as well, worm castings at least. Good luck!
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: Tangich]
#14096741 - 03/10/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm still trying to get my wild C. rhacodes spores to expand...taking time though. I found my mushroom during winter underneath an oak tree in a very cool, wet canyon poking through a (casing) layer of oak leaves. This might give you some heads up. Though, I'm sure each strain varies with environment.
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
#14096750 - 03/10/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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bfogg8706 said: Once that is 100% I'm thinking about spawning to a mixture of moss, straw and small woodchips ( the moss and wood is just a hunch, as it was what the parent mushroom grew in)
My guess is the mossy stuff is a casing layer for a batch of substrate living underneath in wood.
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: Doc_T]
#14096851 - 03/10/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not the same I know, but I have some Macrolepiota procera bags which I'm attempting to fruit at the moment. I used sterilised agaricus compost as substrate which it colonised fine. The mycelium appears quite thin through the substrate, not a solid white block like you get with many species. I've cased it with untreated garden soil. I don't hold out much hope, but who knows. I find M. rachodes growing mainly in pine needle compost, and they are known from compost enriched ground, or directly on compost heaps. You may struggle with just straw/wood chips (I could well be wrong), I think Tangich's suggestion of including some sort of compost would be a good idea.
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: lionsman]
#14097095 - 03/10/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sawdust with bran should work, though I would prefer composted material.
From the picture I would guess Chlorophyllum olivieri, but it's impossible to be sure without seeing the ring and the bulb at the bottom of the stem. See here: http://www.svims.ca/council/Chloro.htm
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NeoSporen
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: Doc_T]
#14098187 - 03/10/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I appreciate all the help. Quote:
Doc_T said:
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bfogg8706 said: Once that is 100% I'm thinking about spawning to a mixture of moss, straw and small woodchips ( the moss and wood is just a hunch, as it was what the parent mushroom grew in)
My guess is the mossy stuff is a casing layer for a batch of substrate living underneath in wood.
You're pretty close with what happened. Basically, I found a few growing from the base of a douglas fir. A days later, I thatched my yard and came up with a huge pile of moss. I just took two of the older mushrooms and burried them in the pile, just for kicks. The pile produced about 10-15 mushrooms withing the next four monts.
I do plan on adding some composted material, most likely as a casing layer. i'm just trying to decide on what to use, natural compost from a forest floor, or man made compost from food and lawn clippings. just adding grass clippings worked well to feed the moss pile. As for the ID on the mushrooms, I'm pretty confident. Numerous TI's and other users all came to the same conclusion (also, they were delicious mixed in with stir fry). I more or less just doing this to see if this species can be cultivated with minimal difficulty. Eventually, I would like to see them growing in many flowerbeds on my property. IMO, they look better than some flowers people plant.
Anyway, thanks again everyone for your input. I'll post some updates once things get moving along.
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Re: Help with Chlorophyllum rhacodes cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
#14101166 - 03/10/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That photo was one of the more beautiful and interesting that I've seen here. Thanks for sharing. I know nothing of wild mushrooms, but from the link Mycelio posted, I would have to agree with him on olivieri.
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