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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406602 - 03/24/03 04:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It is quite a leap to go from searching to attacking. If a gang of armed FBI agents came to your house for whatever purpose would you go out to meet them like a man and keep any danger from your family for as long as you possibly could, or would you hide behind your wife and kids like a coward?


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1406709 - 03/24/03 05:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Kind of odd you mention the FBI coming around, they have, and it was on a terrorism lead. It was a week after the 9-11 attacks, I think I posted about it then too. I've got a Lebanese friend that runs his own advertising company. One of his clients had him put together a trade show booth for the water works. He took some photographs of the water works to a printer to have them enlarged poster size on a special kind of white foamish cardboardy stuff, the bill was over a thousand dollars and he paid in cash with hundread dollar bills. The men at the print shop thought it was suspicious for a middle eastern man with a heavy accent to be geting pictures of the water works blown up and paying the thousand dollar bill in cash with large bills and called up the FBI men telling them there was a terrorist getting some pics to show to his terrorist cell. They stalled him on his order and two FBI men came to his house and he explained the truth to him and they pretty much interogated him about his political and religious beliefs for a couple hours and made him give the names of a few friends they could talk to, one of whom was me. They came and saw me, I almost shit myself. I had a hundred things going through my mind they might be investigating me for, I told them they couldn't come and they were snotty about it, but I talked to them on the porch for a few minutes. I told them "if he's a terrorist than I'm a terrorist." Then I got mad and told them to leave, and they did. Haven't seen them since. I hope they never come back, I hate those cock suckers.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406733 - 03/24/03 05:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Right of wrong that would have seemed suspicious to me too.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1406778 - 03/24/03 06:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Right of wrong that would have seemed suspicious to me too. "

I don't think that the terrorists would be making posters of their targets.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Phluck]
    #1406784 - 03/24/03 06:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Why not? If a group of 10 in a sleeper cell were making plans they would need visuals to help lay out those plans. I don't think they would make plans without some large scale pictures.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1406896 - 03/24/03 07:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

They could all use an "etch a sketch" to be less suspect. :grin:


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Skikid16]
    #1407018 - 03/24/03 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Alba, you are the bottle cap"
"shalib, you are this pebble"
"the cigarette pack is the water works"


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: silversoul7]
    #1407156 - 03/24/03 10:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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insert witty insult here



Learn to read ***edited by Rono***
I never said protesters support Saddam.
:laugh:


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1407202 - 03/24/03 11:35 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I never said protesters support Saddam.



Maybe not directly, but you've certainly implied it in many cases.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: silversoul7]
    #1407352 - 03/25/03 02:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Show me where.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: silversoul7]
    #1407407 - 03/25/03 02:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say that many protesters support saddam just as there are some on this site. Not all but many.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1407469 - 03/25/03 03:40 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

There does seem to be quite a few. :confused: 


I don't support the war as it is being waged, but come on, Why would anyone support a dictator who has commited such atrocities. And for an American to say that they would like to see our troops fail, WOW, that just seems wrong to me.
I don't support Bush at all and I think he has ulterior motives, but that has nothing to do with my feelings about the soldiers. I don't support them in the war effort but I would like to see them come home safely. Even if that means winning for Bush. 


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: sirreal]
    #1407482 - 03/25/03 03:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't support the war as it is being waged, but come on, Why would anyone support a dictator who has commited such atrocities.



ask rhizo..

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And for an American to say that they would like to see our troops fail, WOW, that just seems wrong to me.




ask rhizo and alex

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I don't support Bush at all and I think he has ulterior motives



speculation...but that's your right.

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I don't support them in the war effort but I would like to see them come home safely.




you don't support their efforts but you support them? Sounds more like a CYA statement that is all too common.



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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1407498 - 03/25/03 04:03 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with what rail gun said on this. How can you be against the war and support the soldiers whole heartedly who are fighting in it. Illogical.

But do I want them to fail? Absolutely not!

It is a bit of a delima for me, I admit.

And I never said that I supported the soldiers. I said I would like to see them safe.


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Edited by sirreal (03/25/03 04:05 AM)


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1407533 - 03/25/03 04:22 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I DON'T support the war...no big surprise there.
I DON'T support the troops...either side...they are both just puppets for their respective masters.
I DO hope that this is resolved quickly with minimal loss of life to both sides.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Rono]
    #1407537 - 03/25/03 04:25 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

At least your honest i suppose.....


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1407578 - 03/25/03 04:44 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Show me where.



I would, but the search function isn't working.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: silversoul7]
    #1408837 - 03/25/03 12:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

To those of you who don't support the troops:
Do any of you have loved ones in this war? If not, good for you. I wish I was in your shoes right now.
These people give up their lives for our country whether the war is just, or unjust. I believe they should be supported either way. There is a difference in supporting the war and supporting the troops. I don't support the war, I think that Bush is all wrong in his decisions thus far- but I do wish my father to come home safe, as well as any of the other soldiers out there. My heart goes out to their friends and families.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: shroomer girlie]
    #1408919 - 03/25/03 01:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Princess, I've got a good friend in the marine corps. I know he's been deployed to the kuwaiti border and his unit is in combat. That's all I know about his whereabouts right now. War is hell and somtimes it's necessary but this time I think it's a crock. I'm against the war in Iraq and I can't support those doing actions which I think are dastardly. My friend is in a combat zone, maybe he's with your dad, I have no way of knowing. But I don't support what he's doing and I can't support them for doing it.

Soldiers put their lives on the line. Our boys over seas are in combat now. Lots of them won't come home, or if they do come home they'll be missing arms and legs or maybe be blind. It's hell. And it's all in vain to kill other men to seize their oil. There's no way I can put my support behind that.

Like I said in my first post, I don't see how someone can be against the war and for the combatants. It seems like a paradox to me, like being against rape, but for the rapists, or against burglary, but for the burglars. Maybe the fact that so many people can think these contradictory things at the same time is a mass exercise in doublethink. It doesn't seem the least bit logical to me.

Do you understand what I'm thinking? I trust this is sufficiently clear.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1409448 - 03/25/03 05:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thought criminal!


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