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Javadog
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089469 - 03/08/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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qYp said: Not really trying to hide it I just want a fuck ton of mushrooms. It doesnt make sense to me to grow them inside when spring is coming up.
Search this forum for "outdoor beds".
You will still want to grow spawn, so Pf Tek cakes are still an option.
They work.
You can try grains if you have a PC, but your approach sounds a bit loose for that route.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Hitsuzen]
#14089628 - 03/08/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok heres my revised approach to this outdoor shroom bed. I already ordered the bag and syringe so that may change another time but not now. When I feel like my bag is looking ready Ill take 50/50 dried manure and straw with a little bit of gypsum and fill ovenbags with it and put them into the oven at 170 for a little over an hour. Once cooled Ill mix the pasteurized shit and straw with my colonized bag and spread it in this shallow bed I made for them in the woods. I will probably cover the final substrate with a little more manure and straw for good measure and not use a casing. Ill water it a bit then let it be. Does that sound good?
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089702 - 03/08/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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also the bag i ordered was stupid expensive and has some compost already in it. I'm thinking this is unnecessary. Cant I just use a sterilized bag of rye grain to start from syringe. This is probably the biggest question I have?
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089749 - 03/08/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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> Cant I just use a sterilized bag of rye grain to start from syringe. This is probably the biggest question I have?
Yes, that's exactly what I've done.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Joeker]
#14089785 - 03/08/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sick... what are you using for substrate?
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089852 - 03/08/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wanted to use High Mountain Compost (a sponsor here), but I think I'll end up trying Damion5050's Coir Tek to cut down costs this time around .
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Joeker]
#14089860 - 03/08/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damion5050's tek is what I'm going with. Cheap, easy, effective.
Sorry I hassled you earlier.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Joeker]
#14089913 - 03/08/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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that could have been an interesting version of that movie...
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089933 - 03/08/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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qYp said: Cant I just use a sterilized bag of rye grain to start from syringe. This is probably the biggest question I have?
Yes, but you must have a clean syringe.
If you are shooting spores, just use a little bit. Spore water is potent stuff. Shake well then shoot a few drops at a time into several different places, then don't shake the bag until about 20% colonization.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Doc_T]
#14089953 - 03/08/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah i got the syringe from spore store which i hope is legit. they say to inject like 2ccs into your bag. A drawback is I cant inject in multiple spots just on this blister on the bag. Im pretty sure.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14089993 - 03/08/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Can you move the needle around inside the bag (carefully) while leaving it in the same place in the blister? 2 mL total is cool. :thumbup.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Doc_T]
#14194308 - 03/27/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well its never easy is it... this fuckin rye bag isn't doing shit. I thought it would be completely white by now. now I know why these aren't highly recommended.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14194344 - 03/27/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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18 days from spores to 100% colonization?
uhhh what.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: k00laid]
#14194372 - 03/27/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nothing at all has happened. the bag is not showing any signs of mycellium growth.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
#14194419 - 03/27/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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did you shoot the spores into the middle of the bag where you would not be able to see germination? (bar x-ray vision)
or did you squirt it down the side of the bag so you can see when the spores germinated.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: k00laid]
#14194700 - 03/27/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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if your growing outside you dont have to pasteurize your horse shit. Dont use straw either, mix 6 parts horse poo to 3 parts verm and 1 part gypsum. just throw it in a tub, hydrate it and mix in a little lime and let it soak for a few hours. the lime partially pasteurizes it so it gives the mycelium less competition from organisms. dig a bed in a shaded area and line it with landscape clothe. fill it full of the poo mixture and mix in your spawn. keep it damp with a soaker hose and everything will work out.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: big_herb]
#14195086 - 03/27/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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big_herb said: if your growing outside you dont have to pasteurize your horse shit. Dont use straw either, mix 6 parts horse poo to 3 parts verm and 1 part gypsum. just throw it in a tub, hydrate it and mix in a little lime and let it soak for a few hours. the lime partially pasteurizes it so it gives the mycelium less competition from organisms. dig a bed in a shaded area and line it with landscape clothe. fill it full of the poo mixture and mix in your spawn. keep it damp with a soaker hose and everything will work out.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: anonjon]
#14195148 - 03/27/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
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big_herb said: if your growing outside you dont have to pasteurize your horse shit. Dont use straw either, mix 6 parts horse poo to 3 parts verm and 1 part gypsum. just throw it in a tub, hydrate it and mix in a little lime and let it soak for a few hours. the lime partially pasteurizes it so it gives the mycelium less competition from organisms. dig a bed in a shaded area and line it with landscape clothe. fill it full of the poo mixture and mix in your spawn. keep it damp with a soaker hose and everything will work out.

And if it gets dried out is that a problem? couldn't you just let the rain do its thing and let nature run its course? Is the keeping it damp just for optimal results? I share a backyard with 2 other families (3 story/3 family house) so I can't exactly go watering a spot and have shrooms pop up then pick them but if I throw some spent substrates out there and shrooms pop up the other families won't notice. If I was out there and making sure that one area was kept watered then they might notice and that would be problems but just going out to pick them at night some day wouldn't be a problem. Then again maybe watering in the middle of the night when everyone's asleep would work for me...
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k00laid said: did you shoot the spores into the middle of the bag where you would not be able to see germination? (bar x-ray vision)
or did you squirt it down the side of the bag so you can see when the spores germinated.
And as for this yea I did the same thing I squirted it in the middle and didn't have optimal conditions but I didn't see any growth for over a month but once it started showing growth it exploded...
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: freeskierpj]
#14196875 - 03/28/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah a nice fluffy patch of compost would dry out pretty easily in the sunshine, you'd probably have to water it.
If u need to be surreptitious, then I recommend simply burying spawn in an area where the soil stays pretty moist. Like where the soil has a lot of clay.
You could grow spawn in spawn bags and then just bury them with a post hole digger in random locations. Cover it over with some yard debris. No one would be the wiser.
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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: anonjon]
#14196889 - 03/28/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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