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A beginners approach to growing cubensis
    #14088964 - 03/08/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Whats up Shroomery Forum? This is my first post. If I am attempting to grow a strain of cubes this spring called keepers creepers would this be the right way to go about it? I am going to elaborate my approach and I hope that the wise heads on here will tell me if it is ok or if i need to change anything even slightly.

First off I got the spores from a place called the spore store. They are in a syringe and cost 9.95 including shipping. I also bought a compost bag from mushbox.com to start the spores in but this bag seemed too expensive. I was wondering if you guys knew of any other, possibly cheaper, sites that sell ready made grain and compost bags to start the spores in.

My mom has a horse so getting the manure will be no problem. I am going to mix approx 55 percent cut straw with 45 percent dried manure and then load this mixture into "turkey size" oven bags and put them into the oven at ~170 for about an hour. After the oven I will empty the pasteurized bags of manure and straw into a wheelbarrow and add a bit of gypsum. How much gypsum should I add?

Once I have the manure, straw, and gypsum mixed consistently I am going to bust open my starting bag which by this time should be completely white with mycelium and mix this into the substrate. I will mix it all together in a small area outside then put a casing layer of vermiculite and coca coir over it and dampen it.

Will I be good. Please any tips or tweaks on anything Ive described above in order to ensure success is greatly appreciated as this is my first time attempting this. Thanks.


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14088999 - 03/08/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I am going to mix approx 55 percent cut straw with 45 percent dried manure

I will empty the pasteurized bags of manure and straw into a wheelbarrow and add a bit of gypsum.




this had got to be a troll..


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: k00laid]
    #14089026 - 03/08/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why so k00laid?  Too "pseudo-professional"?

I am clueless to spot these things....though I have learned the clues
that tell when a child is trying to grow without their parents finding out.

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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Javadog]
    #14089059 - 03/08/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: Javadog]
    #14089063 - 03/08/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

strain talk

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55% and 45% lol wtf why not 50/50


also emptying a pasteurized bag of substrate into a wheelbarrow and THEN adding the gypsum.

all of this in one post screams troll to me


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: k00laid]
    #14089146 - 03/08/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sweet. thanks alot really what I needed. Anyone with some real advice? I genuinely thought there should be more straw than shit. is it not ok to add gypsum after pasteurizing. these are the things I wanted to make sure I was clear on before I started. thanks for being dicks about it though really refreshing for a message forum.


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089176 - 03/08/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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sweet. thanks alot really what I needed. Anyone with some real advice? I genuinely thought there should be more straw than shit. is it not ok to add gypsum after pasteurizing. these are the things I wanted to make sure I was clear on before I started. thanks for being dicks about it though really refreshing for a message forum.




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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14089182 - 03/08/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

does anyone have any clue how to grow shrooms outside on shit? would love to hear about it!


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089221 - 03/08/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, i'll be the one to say.....Go to mushroomvideos.com and watch all the PF Tek videos.  Get that down pat and move on from there.  It is the easiest way.....and never order from sporestore....use one of the sponsors from this site.


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14089223 - 03/08/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Start with an easy inside grow, why not?  Trying to hide it from mom?


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14089266 - 03/08/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not really trying to hide it I just want a fuck ton of mushrooms. It doesnt make sense to me to grow them inside when spring is coming up. I know the pf tek it just seems like a pain in the ass. I want like a abbreviated version of it but I cant find it. Isn't it like fill jars with verm poke holes in top flip them upside down. boil the jars then inject.Is that it?


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089284 - 03/08/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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qYp said:
Not really trying to hide it I just want a fuck ton of mushrooms. It doesnt make sense to me to grow them inside when spring is coming up. I know the pf tek it just seems like a pain in the ass. I want like a abbreviated version of it but I cant find it. Isn't it like fill jars with verm poke holes in top flip them upside down. boil the jars then inject.Is that it?




Exactly!


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089311 - 03/08/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm:  It is a learning process, you have to crawl before you walk.  It teaches you sterile procedures and technique.  Then when you become comfortable you can use spawn bags for an outside grow....I have never grown outside, but I can tell you that people have grown shitloads inside with manure based bulk teks....


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14089349 - 03/08/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"i want a fuck ton of mushrooms"...didn't someone get banned like less then a week ago, that kept using that same exact phrase?


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14089359 - 03/08/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i GrOw StUFF said:
:facepalm:  but I can tell you that people have grown shitloads inside with manure based bulk teks....



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i GrOw StUFF said:



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Ok, i'll be the one to say.....Go to mushroomvideos.com and watch all the PF Tek videos.  Get that down pat and move on from there.  It is the easiest way.....and never order from sporestore....use one of the sponsors from this site.





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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: biologys]
    #14089362 - 03/08/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

RR must get headaches reading these forums sometimes...I can see why he bans for pleasure :lol:


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089365 - 03/08/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089384 - 03/08/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> I was wondering if you guys knew of any other, possibly cheaper, sites that sell ready made grain and compost bags to start the spores in.

I recently bought prepared rye spawn bags from Everything Mushrooms and have no complaints. They start at $15 and go as low as $10 each when bought in bulk, but no matter where you buy prepared bags you'll be stuck paying a premium. If you're really trying to save money, buy a pressure cooker and make your own.

> My mom has a horse so getting the manure will be no problem. I am going to mix approx 55 percent cut straw with 45 percent dried manure and then load this mixture into "turkey size" oven bags and put them into the oven at ~170 for about an hour. After the oven I will empty the pasteurized bags of manure and straw into a wheelbarrow and add a bit of gypsum. How much gypsum should I add?

I'd follow a tried and trusted tek here, like Agar's.

> I will mix it all together in a small area outside then put a casing layer of vermiculite and coca coir over it and dampen it.

Your casing layer is meant to be non nutritious, which is the reason why using coir is not recommended. Again I would follow a proven tek here, like the 50/50+ casing tek. Worth noting is that Cubensis doesn't really need a casing layer, so using one all together is totally optional.

Make sure you check out the archive and Grow Mushrooms page, they're filled with resources for first timers (I'm also on my first grow). Good luck!


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: qYp]
    #14089394 - 03/08/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Outside on manure is the natural habitat, read up and you will be fine (use the search function to answer any specific questions you have, here is the quickest thing I found on gypsum percentages). And screw those other guys you seem legit to me :cool:. The more precise and scientific one can be the better, especially with mycology.

Sounds like you have your method down- just like you said, use the bags then spawn it to your outside mass. Good luck mate!


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Re: A beginners approach to growing cubensis [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14089416 - 03/08/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah seriously man. Read the material, it's free! Start out small and work your way up. Coming in here and acting like you want to be a Mushroom Scarface makes you sound like a :cop:


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