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afrosheen
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: Masticore]
#14014880 - 02/23/11 04:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm enjoying the rage in this thread, carry on.
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linkamathingy
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: afrosheen]
#14087217 - 03/08/11 03:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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k00laid
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linkamathingy said: heres another update pretty cool i thought!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363448/We-pick-toxic-new-bulbs-Councils-say-energy-saving-lights-dangerous-binmen.html
"But confused consumers are putting the new bulbs – classed as hazardous waste – in their dustbins when they burn out, potentially putting the safety of thousands of binmen at risk."
so once again the only problem here is the improper disposal. not the lightbulbs themselves.
do you even read the articles you post?
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RogerRabbit
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: k00laid]
#14088537 - 03/08/11 07:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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According the the US Environmental Protection Agency, CFLs have about as much mercury as a single bite of tuna. For you doomsayers, think about that next time you bite into your sandwich. Now, give it a rest. When they go bad, save them in a bin in your shed, and dispose of them when you get enough to make the trip to a recycler. End of problem. RR
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SmokedShroom
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14088754 - 03/08/11 08:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have a cfl has anyone had success with a 90 watt bulb, its all I got.
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k00laid
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: SmokedShroom]
#14088779 - 03/08/11 08:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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people have been having success with out light sources for ages.
but you will see dramatic improvements with a 6500k cfl bulb very close to your fruiting chamber.
a pack of 2 is like 5 bucks at home depot.
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idunno
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: k00laid]
#14088820 - 03/08/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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What you dont dump your bulbs in the ocean for the tuna, pollock etc, can get their daily hydrargyrum(hg) intake. Makes them so tasty.And if it gets high enough you can fish with magnets instead of nets. Just think no more bi-catch hippies should love that.
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Ekyldog
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14088832 - 03/08/11 08:23 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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RR, can you please state your source for such information?
I looked into it and this is what I found:
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From WHFoods: Should I be concerned about mercury in fish and what fish are safe to eat?: The average numbers for Atlantic tuna in this 2007 EPA study were: 0.47 milligrams/kilogram for albacore and 0.31 milligrams/kilogram for yellowfin (light). By comparison, Pacific albacore only contained an average of 0.17 milligrams/kilogram of mercury and Pacific yellowfin (light) only 0.06 milligrams per kilogram.
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From Wikipedia (Compact fluorescent lamp): Most CFLs contain 3–5 mg per bulb, with the eco-friendly bulbs containing as little as 1 mg.[46][47]
According to that data, you would need to eat over two kilograms of Atlantic albacore tuna in order to consume the amount of mercury contained in one "eco-friendly" CFL bulb. In other words, an "eco-friendly" CFL bulb contains as much mercury (1mg) as is contained in over 130 bites (at 15g/bite) of the most mercury contaminated tuna.
At the grocery store, people buy chunked or flaked light (yellowfin) tuna in cans of 170g. At 0.31mg/kg mercury content, each can of tuna contains about 0.05mg of mercury. One "eco friendly" CFL bulb contains as much mercury as 20 cans of yellowfin tuna, much more than a single bite.
Anyways, I don't have a hate-on for CFLs or anything, I just like to work the numbers on stuff like this. I also enjoy spreading the word about LED super ribbon, which contains no mercury and lasts a lot longer than CFLs.
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ar1es
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: Ekyldog]
#14088962 - 03/08/11 08:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ar1es
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: ar1es]
#14089019 - 03/08/11 08:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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shit
after reading this silly topic
i just dropped a cfl by accident and it broke lol
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linkamathingy
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: ar1es]
#14090303 - 03/09/11 12:18 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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"A study by Germany’s Federal Environment Agency found that when one of them breaks, it emits levels of toxic vapour up to 20 times higher than the safe guideline limit for an indoor area. " http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363448/We-pick-toxic-new-bulbs-Councils-say-energy-saving-lights-dangerous-binmen.html
yeah no thank you
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linkamathingy
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: ar1es]
#14090317 - 03/09/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ar1es said: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp
there's a site for straw men if i've ever seen one. i hope no one makes decisions from only that site,
i can't say enough negative things about that site. they mention greenhouse gases like they are a problem, a sign of an uninformed source to me(75% of greenhouse gas is water vapor. %.04 is carbon dioxide, Al Gore and the IPCC are both political, not scientific, etc.)
it's a "we do the research and make the decision for you, heres citation" site, kind of like a skeptics club, or conspiracy theory bashing site.
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BlindBat
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linkamathingy
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: BlindBat]
#14090441 - 03/09/11 12:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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i need to cite more things so people stop ridiculously asking if i read something.
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BlindBat
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BlindBat
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: BlindBat]
#14090540 - 03/09/11 01:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by BlindBat (04/29/12 01:26 AM)
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fngbronco
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: BlindBat]
#14090624 - 03/09/11 01:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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My farts require a 15 minute evacuation most the time...I've seen hazmat crews working for .5ml of mercury. Plant a tree or 3 that'll clear your emissions and put you in balance. If you've got such huge problems just install a ton of windows and use candles. If they made incandescent bulbs with thicker filaments they'd last forever but they can't cuz they need money.
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Petey
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: ar1es]
#14090705 - 03/09/11 02:20 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ar1es said: shit
after reading this silly topic
i just dropped a cfl by accident and it broke lol
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idunno
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Only one Cfl was harmed in making these post.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: CFLs Shouldn't be used IMO [Re: Ekyldog]
#14092123 - 03/09/11 11:47 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ekyldog said: RR, can you please state your source for such information?
http://www.energyperformance.net/?q=about-lighting/lamp-fish-mercury
There's plenty more info online. Just do a few searches. Mercury is bad, but only if the bulb breaks. The carbon and particle emissions from power plants are bad just from inhaling them, and using incandescent light bulbs results in far more pollution than CFLs. Some day, they'll get the mercury out, but until then, be more worried about the health effects of breathing polluted air. RR
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