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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #14107712 - 03/12/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hahaha i still say just EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH EAT THE FLESH ohh and learn to use the edit button :lol:


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: GGTBod]
    #14107772 - 03/12/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey I think I'm tripping a little off this shit.  Finally.  Next time, I'll eat 200 dried grams worth to be sure.  I feel like a degenerate buying all this Everclear.  There's always some strange small talk.  "Hey what is this stuff?"  "Oh, I'm having a big party."

Last week the old man janitor in the store asked me what I do with it.  I told him I make jello shots.  What the fuck is a legitimate use for Everclear?  I guess those rednecks down south drink it and space cadets like me who are too good to use isopropyl extract drugs with it.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: joemolloy]
    #14107790 - 03/12/11 07:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You shouldnt have to consume 200gram dried thats madness.

I eat 250grams of fresh flesh harvested at the end of dormancy and i get a full 12 hour euphoric peak with a 4 hour mellow comedown back to reality.

I have boiled 750 grams of flesh from my exact same cacti, reduced the liquid down and made a tar (took over 10 hours), we ate about 20 grams of this nasty black shit each and got a mild buzz like smoking poor quality weed but lasting for hours, the extract process lasted longer than the hit, not a smart trade in my book


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: GGTBod]
    #14107807 - 03/12/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, its the Everclear extract from 200 dried grams of flesh.  That's probably 20 grams of extract in gelcaps.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: joemolloy]
    #14107842 - 03/12/11 08:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are you processing 200 grams of dried flesh for this?

If yes then you are consuming the proceeds of around 500-700 grams of fresh cacti, enough for 3 people and your not getting a proper mescaline experience, it is either weak flesh or something you are doing is destroying the alkaloids or not properly extracting them and they are being thrown away with the pulp.

I can only speak from my own experiences which are all with the same cacti genetics, if i eat it raw (fresh or dried) I get a real powerful experience, if i boil it the experience i got was a waste of cacti, because i can make myself eat it and itis quick ive never bothered learning any extractions mostly being put off by the time involved and i've grown to enjoy eating the plants (needs must i guess).

I have never tried any other extraction does it get you crystals i'd be interested in doing something to acquire crystals at least once or twice just for the knowledge and experience, what are the benefits of this everclear extract? How long does it take?

My time scale at the moment from cuttting down to tripping my tits off is around 3 hours (spines can be a mutha fucker once your covered in cacti ooze) and it takes a good 30-40 minutes to eat 250 grams of the slimy shit

Edit

I just read all about it!!! Gotta love the search box.

That is a lot of work and fuck on plus the additional expense of time and finaces regarding the cost of the everclear or iso, if you are buying in this cacti plus the cost of the extract equipment how much is your average trip cost working out at?

It all seems a lot of time and effort for a reduced version of the experience by the time you have ground it all up i am tripping floating down my psychedelic river on my raft with no paddles


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: GGTBod]
    #14107983 - 03/12/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i've taken a sp tincture that didn't really do anything to me. i had taken a phen the night before too, but i suspect it wasn't extracted properly to begin with.

then, i took 500mg of powdered sp in two caps, about 45 minutes apart, a month or so back, and it was great. probably could've upped the dosage even more (this particular tech said the max dose was 700mg). i can say with the utmost certainty that the extractor in this instance knows what he's doing, and it was great. beautiful day out in the woods with friends. i wouldn't trade it for anything. laying on the edge of a cliff, watching purple smoke trails come off the turkey vultures circling overhead = awesome.

i've heard that sometimes with mesc, it takes once or twice to get the full effect. not sure if that's true or not, but i've heard that before.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: joemolloy]
    #14108930 - 03/12/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Am I the only one who doesnt de-spine, de-skin and de-core my cacti b4 brewing?

First time, ate 2ft after all this tedious work and had minimal effects.

Second brew was with same specimen, brewed with spines and core. Let it simmer for 3 hours, then strained it, boiled it down and drank it. Had a wonderful, yet mild, 18 hour trip.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: phxBoomer]
    #14109006 - 03/12/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have boiled it once adn the experience was nothing compared to eating it raw, ever since i just eat it


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: phxBoomer]
    #14109584 - 03/12/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Am I the only one who doesnt de-spine, de-skin and de-core my cacti b4 brewing?

First time, ate 2ft after all this tedious work and had minimal effects.

Second brew was with same specimen, brewed with spines and core. Let it simmer for 3 hours, then strained it, boiled it down and drank it. Had a wonderful, yet mild, 18 hour trip.




I doubt most people despine and deskin their cactus.  A lot of people decore it on the thought that the core doesn't have mescaline.  You had some shitty San Pedro too.  18 inches and mild?  Decent Pedro should have had you in a nice place.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: joemolloy]
    #15936186 - 03/12/12 02:46 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

A friend boiled up 2 foot of cactus the other night. He tried to kill the taste so added toffee ingredients, cooked it down then set it in the fridge. I ended up eating most of it and there was no effect.

The plant was growing in a small pot, had not had any plant food at all so I guess a neglected plant will be a weak specimen?


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #15936193 - 03/12/12 02:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

could be mis-identified. could have been too young of a specimen to be producing enough actives. could have been two foot of really thin cactus, and thus not enough overall to trip on. could have been a problem with the tea going off or something when being left overnight. could have been something he mixed the tea with or how he cooked it. :shrug: i don't know.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15936203 - 03/12/12 02:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm asking, would a San Pedro that grew 2 and a half foot and about 3 and a half inches diameter in a small pot with no plant food be inactive because of the neglect?


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: GGTBod]
    #15936214 - 03/12/12 03:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

This thread has proved to me that T. Bridgessii is definitely the way to go. I'm not even gonna chance it with San Pedro. I have to say, very educational/informative. :smile:


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: Nyarlethotep]
    #15936568 - 03/12/12 07:27 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure where you got your info from but from what I've read the most potent part of the cactus gets closer and closer to the skin and right under is the most potent. Also it needs to be green. None of those are green... Maybe they are too old I have no idea but the specimens I tripped on which was amazing btw were middle aged/young ... Not old by any means and as I described it was green under the skin and gradually turning lighter and lighter green till it looks closer to white but with a green tint. Again your specimens don't look anything like that. Clearly San Pedro they just look like all the mescaline is gone. Also I did the cucumber method because of my circumstances but it worked well. It was just very nasty but I got close to a foot down within 40 mins or so.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: acapuchinu]
    #15939112 - 03/12/12 06:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Pedro hasn't failed me yet, but I just bought a few cuttings from that site (maybe even that seller).  I've got two 14"ers made into tea and reducing on the stove right now.  Here's hoping they aren't duds.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: mundane]
    #15939318 - 03/12/12 07:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That picture looks like those cuttings were of the Predominant Cultivar; no wonder they weren't singing for you.  I'm contemplating what to do with my PC's... been nursing 'em (IE: pretty much neglecting them but with worms/fertilizer and sun and water when the soil dries out completely and eggshell) they turn blue; but I guess I need somewhere like 4x the amount just to create a nice atmosphere as a "true blue" pachanoi or peruvianus/bridge... maybe I could try alchemically whittling them down to see what I come up with.

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i've heard that sometimes with mesc, it takes once or twice to get the full effect. not sure if that's true or not, but i've heard that before


That's very interesting; but I'm sure not the OP's issue :smile:.

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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: flickedbic]
    #16033063 - 04/02/12 10:36 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I recently acquired 2 12inch cuttings of san pedro, and so far they have been De-skinned, de-spined, chopped up, and frozen/thawed thrice now. I am waiting for the right moment to prepare them, witch allows me time to find the best possible mode of consumption. So far my plan is to simmer the cacti for around 4 hours in lemon\grapefruit(an maoi right?) juice, all the while mashing it up to release even more potential. Then, after straining..... JELLO SHOTS? :holyshit:  It should make it very easy to get down. Or, should I skip all that bullshit and just thaw it and munch? This is for 2 people.  :pipesmoke:


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex] * 1
    #16034688 - 04/02/12 04:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

After a few hours in the boiling water, strain it, and then put the pulp in the blender.  After blending it, re-boil and re-strain it two or three more times at two to three hours each.  Then evap it all down to a glass or two and make your jello.  I did that a few times and was able to swallow that shit down.  After a few trips like this, I'd start dry heaving at the smell of jello and now I can't even eat jello anymore with or without cactus.  Fucking Pavlov's dog.


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: joemolloy]
    #16035578 - 04/02/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I used agar agar to make a pliable non-messy goo that I made balls out of and swallowed. I did this because I didn't have gel caps and wanted to do it without them anyway so I experimented haha. Out of 4 times, the first time I had tea that I got impatient in reducing down, I threw up after 30 minutes and still tripped some. The last 3 times have been no nausea as an agar goo/tar ball, though I make sure I don't taste it by holding with my teeth and washing it down with a drink(I just use water usually) and I take them over the 3 hours it takes to come one. Made it a little bulky though too haha.

I tripped nicely the first two times with the goo balls and then tripped the most yet with a friend quite nicely and every time it's been probably 6 or so inches(less the first times) of bridgesii that I did 5 pulls where I boiled for two hours each, sometimes adding vinegar and I froze and thawed it 2 or 3 times then blended originally. Doing this, My friend and I had a quite intense come up(my stomach balled up and disappeared in the come up and peak, and I was shaking with anticipation/intensity haha) and awesome trip. I gave him a dramamine and I took some datura seeds(I had tested the dosage extensively and rising slowly before this) and we smoked weed during the 3 hours before it comes on and then took one bong hit on the peak and that got a little intense haha and then smoked on the way down which was amazing, just felt amazing, I was saying "this is so amazing" and I was looping back to that every time I lost my train of thought every few seconds haha.

I also just want to say thanks to joemolly, for pioneering all these techniques and bringing them into my awareness. I ordered 8 foot long cuttings from ebay and now have 8 cuttings rooting/rooted, all over six inches haha. :awesomenod::thumbup:

Edit: A little off topic considering it was bridgesii, but I just wanted to get it out somewhere haha


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Re: Bullshit San Pedro [Re: Tyrannosaurus Rex]
    #16036586 - 04/02/12 11:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Tyrannosaurus Rex said:
I recently acquired 2 12inch cuttings of san pedro, and so far they have been De-skinned, de-spined, chopped up, and frozen/thawed thrice now. I am waiting for the right moment to prepare them, witch allows me time to find the best possible mode of consumption. So far my plan is to simmer the cacti for around 4 hours in lemon\grapefruit(an maoi right?) juice, all the while mashing it up to release even more potential. Then, after straining..... JELLO SHOTS? :holyshit:  It should make it very easy to get down. Or, should I skip all that bullshit and just thaw it and munch? This is for 2 people.  :pipesmoke:




If you do any research on mescaline and MAOi's you will see very quickly that there's a decent enough fatality risk not to do that. Also as far as i know lemon/grapefruit juice is not an MAOi but can just potentiate some things.


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