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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz]
    #14083653 - 03/07/11 08:56 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Ah, objective or empirical evidence is a whole other matter.  :wink:


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz]
    #14083877 - 03/07/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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There's no objective evidence outside of people's self-reports.

It's not like we can go out into the desert and find evidence of God.




Or evidence against.

And yes, it is unfalsifiable, but what is your point? It's a bitch, yes, it is likely we are all biological robots, but just because something is an unbeatable bitch doesn't make it less possible. It's just the nature of what it is.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz] * 1
    #14083942 - 03/07/11 09:49 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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It's not like we can go out into the desert and find evidence of God.




I do that twice a year on a strong dosage of Mescalito.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084030 - 03/07/11 10:08 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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It's not like we can go out into the desert and find evidence of God.




I do that twice a year on a strong dosage of Mescalito.




hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.

@Seanfu It's a bit hard to find evidence against something which doesn't exist... the definition of God makes it unable to be proved false... but this definition is simply a human creation and has no bearing on objective reality.

Again I refer back to elves, trolls, gremlins etc. What purpose does it serve to believe they exist?

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz]
    #14084083 - 03/07/11 10:19 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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It's not like we can go out into the desert and find evidence of God.




I do that twice a year on a strong dosage of Mescalito.




hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.

@Seanfu It's a bit hard to find evidence against something which doesn't exist... the definition of God makes it unable to be proved false... but this definition is simply a human creation and has no bearing on objective reality.

Again I refer back to elves, trolls, gremlins etc. What purpose does it serve to believe they exist?




It serves no purpose.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: Seanfu]
    #14084101 - 03/07/11 10:23 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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It's a bitch, yes, it is likely we are all biological robots




is this such a bad thing?

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz]
    #14084147 - 03/07/11 10:32 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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It's a bitch, yes, it is likely we are all biological robots




is this such a bad thing?


no, the bitch was that god cannot be disproven. As for death anxiety, I think we all would be afraid of ceasing to function.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz]
    #14084175 - 03/07/11 10:39 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.




Unlike some of my quips, it is fact. I live in Vegas and have a garden full of Peruvianus and will be heading out to Lake Mead in 3 to 6 weeks for my semi-annual visit to commune with the gods.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084180 - 03/07/11 10:40 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.




Unlike some of my quips, it is fact. I live in Vegas and have a garden full of Peruvianus and will be heading out to Lake Mead in 3 to 6 weeks for my semi-annual visit to commune with the gods.




:wink:


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: Seanfu]
    #14084194 - 03/07/11 10:44 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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no, the bitch was that god cannot be disproven.




It doesn't bother me. If people need to believe in God then that is fine by me. And it would be very hard to believe in something that could be proven false. This is the foundation of all pseudo-science.

It actually makes these people quite predictable because you can study their laws and understand how they see the world. This can work in your advantage.

As far as ceasing to function. Does a bacteria fear death?

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084197 - 03/07/11 10:46 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.




Unlike some of my quips, it is fact. I live in Vegas and have a garden full of Peruvianus and will be heading out to Lake Mead in 3 to 6 weeks for my semi-annual visit to commune with the gods.




I like your style! I think I may have to emulate your behaviour in my country. We have a massive desert!

But we have no Mescaline... would shrooms be sufficient?

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084275 - 03/07/11 11:09 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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Since both are self-proclaimed with the intent of making one look superior to others without having to change or do anything whatsoever, I consider these a double-fail.




Actually, they are the same thing. But nothing is stopping anybody from shitting all over a spiritual experience they had by using it in service of the ego.  It happens all the time.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084476 - 03/08/11 12:03 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.




Unlike some of my quips, it is fact. I live in Vegas and have a garden full of Peruvianus and will be heading out to Lake Mead in 3 to 6 weeks for my semi-annual visit to commune with the gods.




same time I will be meeting for the first time with sir Iboga.  let's meet in the spirit plane :bobmarley:

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: deranger] * 1
    #14084530 - 03/08/11 12:17 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

To the best of my knowledge, you need at least three full days to deal with the IbogaMan and must be ready to face ALL your crap. It is not sparkles and skittles.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: durantz] * 1
    #14084551 - 03/08/11 12:22 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

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durantz said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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hehe I was waiting for someone to say that.




Unlike some of my quips, it is fact. I live in Vegas and have a garden full of Peruvianus and will be heading out to Lake Mead in 3 to 6 weeks for my semi-annual visit to commune with the gods.




I like your style! I think I may have to emulate your behaviour in my country. We have a massive desert!

But we have no Mescaline... would shrooms be sufficient?




Of course shrooms would work, but I save my shrooms for forest hikes.

Now I may be revealing my wacky belief here, but mescaline cactus blends better with the desert. PM me if you are interested in a live or dried cutting.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14084599 - 03/08/11 12:38 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

:thumbup:

someone on another forum compared it to salvia, in terms of "realness".  salvia scares the living shit out of me on breakthrough dosages.

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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: deranger]
    #14084668 - 03/08/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

I'm sure you know but watch the dosage on that shit.  Slow your heart down too much and that's a trip of a lifetime.  Literally.

It's on my list though.  :thumbup:


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: deranger]
    #14086139 - 03/08/11 11:22 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

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:thumbup:

someone on another forum compared it to salvia, in terms of "realness".  salvia scares the living shit out of me on breakthrough dosages.



Wait are you comparing mescaline to salvia?

Mescaline is so smooth it's like being this somewhat dreamy haze.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: learningtofly]
    #14086160 - 03/08/11 11:29 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

I found mescaline fairly boring when I tried it, it wasn't that larger dose but I've had interesting times on low doses of shrooms and LSD before. Good to see you've tried 2C-E, it's a seriously cool drug IMO.


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Re: Born Again vs. Enlightened [Re: learningtofly]
    #14088120 - 03/08/11 06:13 PM (13 years, 23 days ago)

no, ibogaine to salvia.. just a certain aspect of the experience though, I doubt they are very much alike at all.

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