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OzShroom
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Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek
#14087824 - 03/08/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I feel like my cakes are fruiting slowly. Maybe I'm impatient or maybe I haven't read and retained enough information. I followed the BRF PF Tek from the LGM website. The cakes colonised pretty quickly and were left for a week after 100% colonisation.
After I popped the cakes and rolled in dry verm I put them in my FC. I've been manually fanning and misting every hour or so (not wet but damp). I don't have a hygrometer though the FC seems to always stay damp with moisture showing on all sides and the lid.
I feel I may have missed a step or something?
It's been a week and a half with following results.

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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14087892 - 03/08/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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every hour???? 3-5 per day should be ok..unless you don't have a fc
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14087923 - 03/08/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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show more of your fc..need a hygrometer..11 days is fine ..don't love them to death..you will get pins soon
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14087946 - 03/08/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you dont need to mist if you built the terrarium right.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14087953 - 03/08/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You didn't mention lighting. Hopefully you dunked for 24 hours before rolling in verm. Next time, use fine verm. It works better. RR
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14087979 - 03/08/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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is your perlite in a puddle???
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14088012 - 03/08/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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penhed, like sheens pic. after last few days though I think he needs to lighten up on the shrooms.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: mabachko]
#14088042 - 03/08/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah you didn't mention the dunking and soaking for 24hrs. I could see that making a difference
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: underfliptown]
#14088316 - 03/08/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry, I should've posted more details.
I just looked closer to get better photos and one cake does have growth! I oughta get my eyes checked! What would be the correct terminology for mushrooms at this stage? Only 1 of the 2 cakes have any growth.


My terrarium with holes in all sides, top and bottom.

I did dunk them 24hrs and rolled in verm. I couldn't find any fine verm at my local so I just went with what they had. I've got 3 more cakes that have only just finished their 24 dunk and I'm about to roll them shortly. I will crush up the verm to be finer.
Lighting I have is a 6500K 'cool' cfl. I looked for a 'warm' bulb but couldn't find any with a 6500K rating (I read somewhere a warm bulb is better). I put them straight from dunking and rolling into the terrarium with a 12/12 schedule.
My perlite is lightly damp but can't puddle because of the holes in the bottom of the terrarium.
Edited by OzShroom (03/08/11 07:00 PM)
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14088360 - 03/08/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14088384 - 03/08/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have the approval of Charlie, that's all I need.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14088597 - 03/08/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wasn't puttin u down at all, I like the pic, just charlie might be better off if he rested for an hour or so before his next dose.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: mabachko]
#14088629 - 03/08/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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6500k cool daylight cfl is exactly what you need. but your fruiting chamber looks off
you need 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides. yes... that means the bottom...
5" of dampened perlite.
elevate FC to allow air to flow into the holes in the bottom.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: k00laid]
#14088714 - 03/08/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool, I'll make some changes to the FC. I kinda rushed its making (perks of having a family) so I'll see what I can do with it. I elevate it using shot glasses and keep it in the cupboard. There's not a lot of airflow in there but I make sure to open the doors every now and then.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14088753 - 03/08/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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drill some holes in the cupbard keep us updated
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14088769 - 03/08/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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holy shit kool aid, what show is your sig from. Thats trippy as fuck.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: underfliptown]
#14088791 - 03/08/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol adventure time.
and if you MUST keep your grow hidden i would suggest you grow a sclerotia forming species as opposed to cubensis.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: k00laid]
#14088826 - 03/08/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol I watched the first episode and will not waste anymore time on that retardation...
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: underfliptown]
#14088948 - 03/08/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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woa dude.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: k00laid]
#14089096 - 03/08/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe cut the extra foil that's under your cakes a little? Good Luck
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: munchiegreen]
#14089337 - 03/08/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're doing just fine Oz, often brand new syringes from online places are really slow until you select out for rhizomorphic speed.(and/or if it's your first time you give them much love and time seems to slow down , know it did for me.) Looking good though, are those malabars?
I might be a bit worried about that little guy aborting given its color but not to worry even if it does! More will soon follow.
P.S. Try to keep the perlite off of the foil and away from the cakes.
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OzShroom
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Cheers guys. Can't really go drilling holes in cupboards but I'll see about moving it to a more air circulating area. Hidden is kind of a must. The last thing I want is to have to try and explain this contraption to any uninvited guests lol.
Thanks PsylioSynethesis. I made the syringes from a spore print I got from the free spore ring, Equador strain. Is this strain any good for a newby? They seemed to have colonised well and quickly, so I think I may be over-mothering them at this stage. I did that with my herb in the beginning too, which hindered my grow. Leave the fuckin things alone I had to keep telling myself lol. I'll remove the perlite pronto.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14089573 - 03/08/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep it will be just fine, considering how far you have made it already! No need to drill holes in anything, just fan the cakes a few times a day (whenever you mist). That will be enough air flow.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14089621 - 03/08/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im marking this to watch the grow
 I saw that pin in the very first pic right when i read the post lol...i cant believe you didnt see it.
Good luck on the grow 
@ PsylioSynethesis..... Yes you do need holes drilled in all sides and most importantly the bottom and the lid so that air can flow through the holes and evaporate the water from the perlite into the air causing humidity in the FC...RR's SGFC works perfectly fine
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Awesome. I'll keep posting pics and info as I go and keen to give ratings once I've reached 50 posts.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OregonChronic]
#14089641 - 03/08/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im marking this to watch the grow
 I saw that pin in the very first pic right when i read the post lol...i cant believe you didnt see it.
Good luck on the grow 
Thanks mate. My days are filled with screaming baby and lots of work. It could've been an inch long and I still could've missed it lol. I guess I was expecting pinning like in the Let's Grow Mushrooms BRF Tek at Pt4. I don't know why I expected that since my strain is different. Now I know what I'm looking for I'll be on the ball.
Edited by OzShroom (03/08/11 10:32 PM)
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should not have been such a smart ass...i was joke'n..yea man,keep on do'in 'watch'n and wait'n ...charlie says your go'in to win
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14089775 - 03/08/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is what my pins looked like when they were popping on my 1/2pint cakes Pic A Pic B
Those 3 pins in the pic A grew to this


The small pins in pic B grew to this
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: penhed]
#14089849 - 03/08/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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LOL stop posting that in every thread!
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OregonChronic]
#14089859 - 03/08/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks OregonChronic. They look great! How long did it take to go from pic A to harvest? Do you just pull them from the cake once they're ready or cut them? It's when the veil rips they're ready, is that correct?
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: Hitsuzen]
#14089861 - 03/08/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OzShroom
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: underfliptown]
#14089878 - 03/08/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14089891 - 03/08/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
OzShroom said: I just looked closer to get better photos and one cake does have growth!
LOL! We all spotted that pin in the first post.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: Doc_T]
#14089926 - 03/08/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh come on mate, give a brand newby a break First time I grew herb I spent hours looking for trichs. Turned out I was looking way too early in the grow lol. Experience makes a huge difference.
I've thoroughly examined the 2nd cake and found nothing as of yet. Maybe I should get my wife to take a look
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14089962 - 03/08/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or post pics. 
You've got a pin, you must be doing ok. And you've got the advice you need to get more. I'd say you have about 5-7 days to study up on making spore prints.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: Doc_T]
#14089992 - 03/08/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah!
AHH!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: Doc_T]
#14090000 - 03/08/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha will post pics then I've got another 4 syringes already made up from the spore print I received but I will definitely learn about spore printing and contribute back to the free spore ring.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14090012 - 03/08/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also tissue cloning. Agar work is easier and cheaper than it seems. You'll need a pressure cooker.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14090044 - 03/08/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looking good Oz!!!
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: velvetmagician]
#14090124 - 03/08/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Question: In the Lets Grow Mushrooms Video, when soaking/rising your perlite, is that enough moisture or should perlite be watered directly now and then?
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: velvetmagician]
#14090148 - 03/08/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you mist your perlite while your misting your trays/cakes.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OregonChronic]
#14092554 - 03/09/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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@ PsylioSynethesis..... Yes you do need holes drilled in all sides and most importantly the bottom and the lid so that air can flow through the holes and evaporate the water from the perlite into the air causing humidity in the FC...RR's SGFC works perfectly fine
If you look, someone told him to drill into the cupboard- which is overkill and completely unnecessary. He already has holes in the FC, so I clearly was not telling him to undrill the holes already there or something.
Really nice mushies by the way!
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Quote:
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Quote:
OregonChronic said:
@ PsylioSynethesis..... Yes you do need holes drilled in all sides and most importantly the bottom and the lid so that air can flow through the holes and evaporate the water from the perlite into the air causing humidity in the FC...RR's SGFC works perfectly fine
If you look, someone told him to drill into the cupboard- which is overkill and completely unnecessary. He already has holes in the FC, so I clearly was not telling him to undrill the holes already there or something.
Really nice mushies by the way!
I believe the holes in the cupboard was a joke!
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: velvetmagician]
#14093476 - 03/09/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I took it as a joke. If I had a portable cupboard I would have ventilation holes but unfortunately the location is in a built-in wardrobe. I will have a look at increasing the size of the holes in the terrarium at the very least.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14093777 - 03/09/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have also used a closet (the size of a wardrobe), not to hide it just to get it out of the way. At the time I was testing an experimental self sufficient chamber and left it by itself for 2 weeks. Given the rate of gas exchange in my system, you could very easily have them in a sealed box and just fan it 20 times a day.
Point being that as long as you fan and mist around 5 times a day you don't have to go overboard on the shotgunning.
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Yeah! Look at him go! What's all the white stuff? It's not mould is it? Have my shrooms been snorting cocaine?

Edited by OzShroom (03/10/11 04:46 PM)
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14099068 - 03/10/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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its mycelium, its fine.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: biologys]
#14099150 - 03/10/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks mate.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: biologys]
#14099175 - 03/10/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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When i used to do cakes... I dunked and rolled like you did.. I also made little bowls out of the aluminum foil.. Put a pile of really wet verm in the little "bowl" of foil.. Set the cake on the verm.. And also put a little pile of really moist verm on top of the cake as well. And dont mist everytime you fan them.
Its best to experiment a bit.. Try double ended casing w/ a cake. Dunk and roll another one. Etc so you can make comparisons and see which method works out best for you. Cheers.
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Here's the latest. Should I pick the one at the bottom whose veil has broken? Should I wait until all are ready to be picked? How do I pick them anyway, just pull it or cut it with a knife?

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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14122075 - 03/14/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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onc ethe veil has broken you can harvest whenever you're ready.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14122344 - 03/14/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep that one's ready. I just grab them at the base, twist, and pull. Make sure to clean off any verm that is stuck in the mushie.
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Thanks! Wow... pretty excited, this experience has been a long time coming.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: OzShroom]
#14122440 - 03/14/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yay!
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: Doc_T]
#14123666 - 03/15/11 03:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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congratz.
why cant my cakes do that.
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Re: Have I missed something? BRF PF Tek [Re: ChronicSmoke]
#14124007 - 03/15/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good question. What are your cakes doing?
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